Also, to say nothing of, like, that’s just your opinion man.
I thought she was fine in 2020
She literally had no support in 2020. No one liked her. We know the reason Biden/DNC picked her. There was talk of replacing her on the ticket this year. It just seems that they are just creating an illusion of a candidate.
For Democrats it doesn’t matter. But for the undecided it does. She’s on record stating very far left policies. If she comes out and does a 180 on these then that’s ammo for Trump. If she stays true to her past policies it’s way to left (historically) for independent and undecided voters.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
She should put those centrist positions on her website! Sit down with a journalist and explain these delightfully moderate views!
I agree. But also, ride the vibes and polls out. There’s so much wind at her back and Trump is flopping. Let him make unforced errors.
Too cynical for me and a bit of a tightrope walk with current polling. It's very telling subtext that "supporters" think her campaign is better off if she's not tested.
So true. It’s amazing she’s running for the most important job in the world and they won’t let her talk. Every candidate ever wants to get in front of every camera they can and tell us why they are the best. Not Kamala.
I think she’s way too nervous. All she seems to do is wave, smile and laugh. Her response the other day to a reporter asking “what’s next?” was…… “We are going up those stairs!” to her plane 🤦♂️
She’s been instructed to say nothing. Take no questions. Campaign will handle everything, just show up and read what she’s told.
lol you clearly missed her convention speech...you keep getting duped man!
I was duped. Beyoncé didn’t show.
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I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
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I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
You can’t name two “far left leaning policies” of Kamala’s, beyond your faux talking points.
I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
Look I know there’s campaign norms. But Donald Trump has proven you don’t need to abide by the norms anymore. I have no doubt her site will get updated and she’ll do interviews and take questions. But the narratives created around her not doing those things are weird.
Donald Trump is surrounded by rakes and keeps stepping on them. Let the bit go on. He’s shook
He’s doing the same thing he has always done. He won an election. Lost an election. Knocked out a candidate early and still the favorite to win in November. What he does works for him.
Haha! Knocked out a candidate. Your assessments are all jaded in everything you post, but sure, whatever makes you, and Trump, feel good. One party let's a senile, rambling and unfit candidate continue to dodder along while the other finally admitted grandpa probably shouldn't be trusted to keep the keys after the current term is up because of Public outcry. Even though grandpa is still more coherent and knowledgeable than the other guy. Sounds like you know what it takes to be a successful candidate based on all your disingenuous concerns for Harris. People like you aren't voting for Harris, no matter what, so the campaign isn't going to pander to your false concerns.
Look I know there’s campaign norms. But Donald Trump has proven you don’t need to abide by the norms anymore. I have no doubt her site will get updated and she’ll do interviews and take questions. But the narratives created around her not doing those things are weird.
Donald Trump is surrounded by rakes and keeps stepping on them. Let the bit go on. He’s shook
He’s doing the same thing he has always done. He won an election. Lost an election. Knocked out a candidate early and still the favorite to win in November. What he does works for him.
Haha! Knocked out a candidate. Your assessments are all jaded in everything you post, but sure, whatever makes you, and Trump, feel good. One party let's a senile, rambling and unfit candidate continue to dodder along while the other finally admitted grandpa probably shouldn't be trusted to keep the keys after the current term is up because of Public outcry. Even though grandpa is still more coherent and knowledgeable than the other guy. Sounds like you know what it takes to be a successful candidate based on all your disingenuous concerns for Harris. People like you aren't voting for Harris, no matter what, so the campaign isn't going to pander to your false concerns.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appealing to as wide of a group as possible.
At the end of the day Democrats are boring af, do just enough to get by, and try to stay the course.
a good measure of where she is/was/mightbe is to look at her senate races and what was said for those vs now.
Would it really be that hard to just tell us where she stands? Put it on her website? This is it.
doesn't matter. you'd never vote for her anyway.
complaining just to complain, or what?
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I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
You can’t name two “far left leaning policies” of Kamala’s, beyond your faux talking points.
Let's look at her actions. Her words certainly can't be trusted:
1. She supports DIE. 2. She supports open borders. 3. She supports censorship. 4. She supports mandatory COVID vacs. 5. She supports BLM rioters.
I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
False...has nothing to do with hate and everything to do with him being a self serving moron.
VIRTUALLY NO ONE FROM HIS ADMIN SUPPORTS HIM...HIS VP, SECDEF, SECSTATE, PRESS SEC, Foreign Policy Advisors, etc.
That should be reason enough for you.
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I dont see how it’s ammo for Trump. I’d rather my leaders be adapt and changed based on the times and the people they lead. A rigidity in ideology is problematic.
but you were talking about debate performance (I assume), not support. I agree she was not supported but there were several candidates running. I don’t think running an unsuccessful campaign precludes you from trying again.
So it’s ok for her to run a far left leaning campaign because it was California but then pivot to a more center moderate campaign (if she ever has policies) in a Presidential run? Wouldn’t that create confusion or inauthenticity?
Democrats don’t care. They are voting on Trump hate only. Policy doesn’t matter. This is a question for the voters that actually matter. Independents and undecided in the 10 or so swing states.
You can’t name two “far left leaning policies” of Kamala’s, beyond your faux talking points.
Let's look at her actions. Her words certainly can't be trusted:
1. She supports DIE. 2. She supports open borders. 3. She supports censorship. 4. She supports mandatory COVID vacs. 5. She supports BLM rioters.
Do you have links or quotes in full context regarding 1-5?
POOTWH, and by extension, you, support 1/6 insurrectionists. Guess we’re even?
Three questions:
1. Did POOTWH legitimately lose the 2020 election?
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
Wait, so people hate a politician who has policies they don't like, and they also hate politicians who adjust their policies based on the feedback of a large majority of voters 🤔 . Seems like a lose/lose with those people. I don't understand why all politicians wouldn't try to govern effectively by adapting their positions within what feels authentic to their own beliefs? I think any intelligent person understands that you can't always get what you want but if you....
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
One thing I've found interesting this election cycle, the lack of conversation around gun policy/reform. The right isn't stoking fear about radical liberals coming for them and the left isn't bringing up mass shootings to push for reform. Summer's over though, so I'm sure something will happen to bring it to the front again.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
Wait, so people hate a politician who has policies they don't like, and they also hate politicians who adjust their policies based on the feedback of a large majority of voters 🤔 . Seems like a lose/lose with those people. I don't understand why all politicians wouldn't try to govern effectively by adapting their positions within what feels authentic to their own beliefs? I think any intelligent person understands that you can't always get what you want but if you....
The problem is it is often seen as insincere, and therefore not something they will likely stand behind when the time comes. Changing political views because you listen to the voice of the people and want to represent them better is one thing. Making statements that you don't believe in to gain votes is another.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appealing to as wide of a group as possible.
At the end of the day Democrats are boring af, do just enough to get by, and try to stay the course.
a good measure of where she is/was/mightbe is to look at her senate races and what was said for those vs now.
Would it really be that hard to just tell us where she stands? Put it on her website? This is it.
Like you really give a shit. You only care so that the right wing can weaponize it.
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complaining just to complain, or what?
"Well, you tell him that I don't talk to suckas."
1. She supports DIE.
2. She supports open borders.
3. She supports censorship.
4. She supports mandatory COVID vacs.
5. She supports BLM rioters.
VIRTUALLY NO ONE FROM HIS ADMIN SUPPORTS HIM...HIS VP, SECDEF, SECSTATE, PRESS SEC, Foreign Policy Advisors, etc.
That should be reason enough for you.
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If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing.
But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often.
But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Changing political views because you listen to the voice of the people and want to represent them better is one thing. Making statements that you don't believe in to gain votes is another.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.