Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
Wait, so people hate a politician who has policies they don't like, and they also hate politicians who adjust their policies based on the feedback of a large majority of voters 🤔 . Seems like a lose/lose with those people. I don't understand why all politicians wouldn't try to govern effectively by adapting their positions within what feels authentic to their own beliefs? I think any intelligent person understands that you can't always get what you want but if you....
The problem is it is often seen as insincere, and therefore not something they will likely stand behind when the time comes. Changing political views because you listen to the voice of the people and want to represent them better is one thing. Making statements that you don't believe in to gain votes is another.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
The difference is I haven't seen anyone defend trump on switching, so I'm not going to respond to something no one ever said. Someone defends Kamala for changing, and I'll comment that's why people don't like politicians, most of us realize they don't mean it when they change. Nothing I said was specific to Kamala or the left. If someone defends trump or anyone on the right for flopping and I'll say the same thing. But I cant respond to a comment that was never made.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
This is why people hate politicians. They say what they think will get them most votes, but don't mean it.
When was the last time you said that about Trump, who literally used to be a Democrat before he realized Republicans would be easier to dupe?
I never said this was a left only issue. If someone said that about trump in a way that it was no big deal, I'd say the same thing. But I don't read the Trump thread very often. There's more posts about making fun of his orange skin than anything actually useful, so I don;t check it very often. But that's the problem, we come to expect it. It was brought up that she changed her views in 2020 to get more votes as if that's totally normal and no big deal. And it was mentioned that way because that has become the norm in politics. Which is frustrating.
Trump's been around politics for like 10 years. He is the most extreme example of someone saying whatever he thinks voters want to hear in order to get elected yet I do not remember seeing you saying anything about that. The guy used to be pro-choice. He used to make jokes about aborting his daughter on the Howard Stern show. He went from that....to nominating the most conservative pro life Supreme court in recent memory who dismantled a woman's right to choose in this country.
Kamala moving from the left to the middle is no different than what any other politician does after the primaries are over and they need to appeal to a wider audience for the general election. That's been the norm forever. What Donald Trump has done is completely reinvent himself in order to fool 46% of the voting public. As someone who seems to lean to the right, that's not a little frustrating? The guy has been pandering for your vote for a decade now.
The difference is I haven't seen anyone defend trump on switching, so I'm not going to respond to something no one ever said. Someone defends Kamala for changing, and I'll comment that's why people don't like politicians, most of us realize they don't mean it when they change. Nothing I said was specific to Kamala or the left. If someone defends trump or anyone on the right for flopping and I'll say the same thing. But I cant respond to a comment that was never made.
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
She should put those centrist positions on her website! Sit down with a journalist and explain these delightfully moderate views!
I agree. But also, ride the vibes and polls out. There’s so much wind at her back and Trump is flopping. Let him make unforced errors.
Too cynical for me and a bit of a tightrope walk with current polling. It's very telling subtext that "supporters" think her campaign is better off if she's not tested.
Please. You're not naive enough to think that Fox or whoever will spin whatever she says. Take the price-gouging. That's a law in many states, including Alabama and Florida due to the hurricanes. Yet, it took Fox one minute to call it "price controls".
Truly dark times if a candidate for President announces their positions and a hostile press critiques them
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
She should put those centrist positions on her website! Sit down with a journalist and explain these delightfully moderate views!
I agree. But also, ride the vibes and polls out. There’s so much wind at her back and Trump is flopping. Let him make unforced errors.
Too cynical for me and a bit of a tightrope walk with current polling. It's very telling subtext that "supporters" think her campaign is better off if she's not tested.
Please. You're not naive enough to think that Fox or whoever will spin whatever she says. Take the price-gouging. That's a law in many states, including Alabama and Florida due to the hurricanes. Yet, it took Fox one minute to call it "price controls".
Truly dark times if a candidate for President announces their positions and a hostile press critiques them
Kamala pivoted left on several policy positions in 2020 because of the success Bernie had in 2016. She thought she could thread the needle and appeal to both center left Dems and the far left. She missed. Politically, like most Dems, they know the middle is where to govern, but you win elections by appeal to as wide of a group as possible.
She should put those centrist positions on her website! Sit down with a journalist and explain these delightfully moderate views!
I agree. But also, ride the vibes and polls out. There’s so much wind at her back and Trump is flopping. Let him make unforced errors.
Too cynical for me and a bit of a tightrope walk with current polling. It's very telling subtext that "supporters" think her campaign is better off if she's not tested.
Please. You're not naive enough to think that Fox or whoever will spin whatever she says. Take the price-gouging. That's a law in many states, including Alabama and Florida due to the hurricanes. Yet, it took Fox one minute to call it "price controls".
Truly dark times if a candidate for President announces their positions and a hostile press critiques them
Again, naive.
No price gouging = price controls No 15 week abortion ban = mobile abortion vans used as birth control No AR-15 = govt walking into your house and taking all of your weapons
You can spare me the sarcasm, I don't give a fuck about the right wing anymore or this iteration of the GOP. At one point I respected it, but not for the last decade. They are party of stupid, the anti-intellectuals. They are the party they attacked the Capitol and double downed on their support of Trump. Don't act like this is Romney - Obama.
This is an opinion piece. I know you get the difference between this and the main page at Fox digital.
So the abortion van angle is ok as long as it's in the opinion section?
Tom Cotton was on This Week repeating the bullshit that Harris/Walz want to abort babies on their dates of birth. Please.
That was just sarcasm because I'm not sure why the distinction with an op ed. But not stating your positions because bad actors will manipulate them seems like a very silly excuse to me.
This is an opinion piece. I know you get the difference between this and the main page at Fox digital.
So the abortion van angle is ok as long as it's in the opinion section?
I invite you to read a little more closely. The opinion writer didn't say that anti-price gouging policy was communism. She said she thought it was bad policy. Perhaps that is a touch too much nuance for you, but I can handle policy disagreements. There is actually a difference between anti-gouging policy and the gov't owning the means of production. You get that right... you do understand what communism actually is. And your little comment above can fuck all the way off.
This is an opinion piece. I know you get the difference between this and the main page at Fox digital.
So the abortion van angle is ok as long as it's in the opinion section?
I invite you to read a little more closely. The opinion writer didn't say that anti-price gouging policy was communism. She said she thought it was bad policy. Perhaps that is a touch too much nuance for you, but I can handle policy disagreements. There is actually a difference between anti-gouging policy and the gov't owning the means of production. You get that right... you do understand what communism actually is. And your little comment above can fuck all the way off.
LMAO
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Ok ok enough on that one. There was a time where mrussell was in Tim Simmons territory but unfortunately it's Halifax territory now.
Weird. How’s your Google search going.
You'll notice I did a novel thing earlier which is link to articles I was referencing (WaPo, Axios) so people can read the source material if they were skeptical of my interpretation
One thing I've found interesting this election cycle, the lack of conversation around gun policy/reform. The right isn't stoking fear about radical liberals coming for them and the left isn't bringing up mass shootings to push for reform. Summer's over though, so I'm sure something will happen to bring it to the front again.
Democrats used to be all about the environment as well. AOC told us the planet had only 12 years left in 2019. I guess the green new deal worked and the environment is fixed because there’s nothing from the D’s anymore.
Ok ok enough on that one. There was a time where mrussell was in Tim Simmons territory but unfortunately it's Halifax territory now.
Weird. How’s your Google search going.
You'll notice I did a novel thing earlier which is link to articles I was referencing (WaPo, Axios) so people can read the source material if they were skeptical of my interpretation
One thing I've found interesting this election cycle, the lack of conversation around gun policy/reform. The right isn't stoking fear about radical liberals coming for them and the left isn't bringing up mass shootings to push for reform. Summer's over though, so I'm sure something will happen to bring it to the front again.
Democrats used to be all about the environment as well. AOC told us the planet had only 12 years left in 2019. I guess the green new deal worked and the environment is fixed because there’s nothing from the D’s anymore.
You should pay closer attention. I think you've been duped again.
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1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago 2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy 2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE) 2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston 2020: Oakland, Oakland:2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana 2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville 2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
One thing I've found interesting this election cycle, the lack of conversation around gun policy/reform. The right isn't stoking fear about radical liberals coming for them and the left isn't bringing up mass shootings to push for reform. Summer's over though, so I'm sure something will happen to bring it to the front again.
Democrats used to be all about the environment as well. AOC told us the planet had only 12 years left in 2019. I guess the green new deal worked and the environment is fixed because there’s nothing from the D’s anymore.
You should pay closer attention. I think you've been duped again.
well its not no kamala's website so you never know if the dems abandoned these issues or not....
"You can tell the greatness of a man by what makes him angry." - Lincoln
One thing I've found interesting this election cycle, the lack of conversation around gun policy/reform. The right isn't stoking fear about radical liberals coming for them and the left isn't bringing up mass shootings to push for reform. Summer's over though, so I'm sure something will happen to bring it to the front again.
Democrats used to be all about the environment as well. AOC told us the planet had only 12 years left in 2019. I guess the green new deal worked and the environment is fixed because there’s nothing from the D’s anymore.
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Someone defends Kamala for changing, and I'll comment that's why people don't like politicians, most of us realize they don't mean it when they change. Nothing I said was specific to Kamala or the left. If someone defends trump or anyone on the right for flopping and I'll say the same thing. But I cant respond to a comment that was never made.
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2024/08/15/kamala-harris-price-gouging-groceries/
No price gouging = price controls
No 15 week abortion ban = mobile abortion vans used as birth control
No AR-15 = govt walking into your house and taking all of your weapons
You can spare me the sarcasm, I don't give a fuck about the right wing anymore or this iteration of the GOP. At one point I respected it, but not for the last decade. They are party of stupid, the anti-intellectuals. They are the party they attacked the Capitol and double downed on their support of Trump. Don't act like this is Romney - Obama.
The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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-EV 8/14/93
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The Golden Age is 2 months away. And guess what….. you’re gonna love it! (teskeinc 11.19.24)
1998: Noblesville; 2003: Noblesville; 2009: EV Nashville, Chicago, Chicago
2010: St Louis, Columbus, Noblesville; 2011: EV Chicago, East Troy, East Troy
2013: London ON, Wrigley; 2014: Cincy, St Louis, Moline (NO CODE)
2016: Lexington, Wrigley #1; 2018: Wrigley, Wrigley, Boston, Boston
2020: Oakland, Oakland: 2021: EV Ohana, Ohana, Ohana, Ohana
2022: Oakland, Oakland, Nashville, Louisville; 2023: Chicago, Chicago, Noblesville
2024: Noblesville, Wrigley, Wrigley, Ohana, Ohana; 2025: Pitt1, Pitt2
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1. Hate Trump
2. Abortions on Demand
3. Control Grocery Prices
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