London show selling terribly?

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  • matt84
    matt84 Posts: 823
    I completely forgot I paid £160 for a standing Manchester ticket. Crazy price!
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    Of course it's the price. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,015
    When people ask why PJ doesn’t play football stadiums… this is why.  They are an Arena and occasional ballpark band in the right city.  
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  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
  • drfox
    drfox Posts: 1,481
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
  • Zen23
    Zen23 Posts: 492
    First and foremost is the price. In second place, the arrogance of believing that you can fill the Tottenham Stadium at a price of 190 euros and the Palau Sant Jordi two nights in a row at a price of 165 euros in a European country like Spain. In third place comes the timing. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,895
    Zen23 said:
    First and foremost is the price. In second place, the arrogance of believing that you can fill the Tottenham Stadium at a price of 190 euros and the Palau Sant Jordi two nights in a row at a price of 165 euros in a European country like Spain. In third place comes the timing. 
    Correct 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • beano.79
    beano.79 Posts: 785
    drfox said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
    Agreed it's done well here I. Comparison to the last few, I've even heard wreckage on BBC radio 2 in the daytime!
  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    drfox said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
    The singles are doing quite well in the US, so certainly not bombing here. If anything, the new album (at least the singles/radio play) have been successful compared to their recent efforts. I’m sure it’s different in different countries. 

    Price definitely, questionable venue choice, and other shows/events to blame. I hope they let fans move to closer seats/sections if they go unsold. It could make for a great (or at least better) show in the end.
  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited June 2024
    drfox said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
    Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected. 

    Post edited by Philip_Ireland on
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,471
    They overshot in 2007 also in Germany and had to move to a smaller arena
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,956
    What a desaster!
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  • The Rock
    The Rock Posts: 1,439
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    They overshot in 2007 also in Germany and had to move to a smaller arena
    I was actually glad they changed venues as the ISS Dome was much more intimate and fun. 
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  • PB11041
    PB11041 Earth Posts: 2,845
    Well, the prices won't go backwards, so it will be more than likely that they tour where they can sell in the future. 
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  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    They overshot in 2007 also in Germany and had to move to a smaller arena

  • sdharv1919
    sdharv1919 Traverse City, MI Posts: 27
    Philip_Ireland said:
    drfox said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
    Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected. 

    Original post updated for charts for week ending June 15, 2024.

    "Wreckage" climbs to No. 9 at alternative radio, No. 8 at mainstream rock and No. 6 at Triple-A. It also moves up from No. 36 to No. 28 on the Canada Rock chart.

    Dark Matter hangs on in the top 50 of Top Current Album Sales for a seventh week, selling between 1,700 and 1,800 copies.
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,220
    I wish I had these problem. I have to deal with people with endless money and the whole fucking world wanting to come to the northeast to see them. 
  • Philip_Ireland
    Philip_Ireland Posts: 673
    edited June 2024
    sdharv1919 said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    drfox said:
    Philip_Ireland said:
    beano.79 said:
    drfox said:
    It’s not the ticket prices it’s the late announcement when lots of people had already booked to see other concerts 
    All the noise on social media over the last few months points to it being the ticket prices 
    Exactly- of course it’s the price. Second they are touring a bombing album 
    Is it bombing? Reached #2 here with minimal promotion. Doing no different to other similar bands from the same era.
    Reached number 2 briefly then tumbled. It lasted about a week on the Billboard charts- there are a multitude of 50 year old albums that are selling better than it. See article below and bear in mind that it’s a month old. It’s definitely not selling as expected. 

    Original post updated for charts for week ending June 15, 2024.

    "Wreckage" climbs to No. 9 at alternative radio, No. 8 at mainstream rock and No. 6 at Triple-A. It also moves up from No. 36 to No. 28 on the Canada Rock chart.

    Dark Matter hangs on in the top 50 of Top Current Album Sales for a seventh week, selling between 1,700 and 1,800 copies.
    “ In its second week on the Billboard charts, Dark Matter declines sharply on every list it appears on. It even fell off of at least one ranking it arrived on last time around.

    The massive fall is perhaps most notable on the Billboard 200. Dark Matter opened at No. 5 last week on the ranking of the most-consumed albums in the U.S. It earned the second-loftiest debut of the frame, coming in behind Taylor Swift’s The Tortured Poets Department, of course. Now, it’s barely hanging on, and it may disappear from the tally shortly.”


    That was a month ago- it is no longer on the Billboard 200 chart. Anyway this thread is about the poor ticket sales, I only mentioned poor album sales as being an indicator/contributory factor of poor ticket sales along with them being far too expensive. 

    Post edited by Philip_Ireland on
  • stones
    stones Posts: 406
    I really think selling out BST in Hyde Park with 60k tickets each night two years ago set false expectations. It seems like they are now expecting ticket sales equivalent to Springsteen, The Stones or Guns n Roses - who easily sell out big stadiums at high prices.

    I also think that the unusual circumstances of BST are being overlooked. In 2022 we were emerging from the pandemic, many people had been stuck in their houses for best part of 2 years and desperate to get out and experience a live event, plus they had extra disposable income because of not being able to go out… and that wasn’t just local fans, the travelling fans also had spare cash and were able to travel again.

    This year we have a cost of living crisis, most people have less disposable income because of increased costs for other things, the pandemic is a distant memory and there’s more competition from other tours. It’s also not as attractive for the travelling fans to head to Europe to city hop for one show in most cities in larger venues especially when they’re also touring the US and Australia/NZ this year.
  • vedpunk
    vedpunk Posts: 960
    Last Europe tour?  They should have toured the Southeast US instead and would have sold more tickets with less overhead.  

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