Ticket prices. This is not for you (the fans).

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  • Kevinman
    Kevinman Atlanta, GA USA Posts: 1,921
    BF25394 said:
    Shibari said:
    “All the members of Pearl Jam remember what it’s like to be young and not have a lot of money,” Stone Gossard told lawmakers. “Many Pearl Jam fans are teenagers that do not have the money to pay $30 or more that is often charged for tickets today. It is well known in our industry that some portion of the service charges Ticketmaster collects on its sale of tickets is distributed back to the promoters and the venues. It is this incestuous relationship and the lack of any national competition for Ticketmaster that has created this situation we’re dealing with today.”

    Quote Stone Gossard

    Stone Gossard continued, “As a result, our band which is concerned with keeping the price of tickets low will almost always be in conflict with Ticketmaster, which has every incentive to try to find ways to increase the price of the ticket it sells.”

    When you are corrupted by money you forget the statements you once made

    Yes, because the value of the dollar and the nature of the music industry and the revenue it generates are exactly the same as they were in 1994. Also, people who were teenagers in 1994 are still teenagers in 2024.
    $1 in 1994 is worth $2.10 today
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  • LiveAtLeeds
    LiveAtLeeds Posts: 156
    PB11041 said:
    chrisdrake88 said:
    I've been a 10C member off and on for ten years now (I am aware that this is not the longest membership, but this isn't a measuring contest) and I am absolutely appalled by the prices of tickets for this tour.  The one thing that always stood PJ apart from all other bands was its connection to the fans, the determination to make it as great an experience as could be and the refusal to let its fans be ripped off and exploited in the name of capitalism (See PJ vs Ticketmaster).

    The best example of this has always been the Ten Club, where we get rewarded for our loyalty by being allowed to buy tickets at a reasonable price, right down the front where the proper fans are, without needing to pay an absolute fortune for the privilege. These tickets for the Dark Matters tour UK dates are £160. ONE HUNDRED AND SIXTY POUNDS. The cheapest tickets in the house are £120.

    Pearl Jam, you have completely lost your way.  You are not the band of the people that you once were, you will have lost the respect of thousands of fans with this blatant profiteering and the fact that you are doing this alongside Ticketmaster, of all companies, is frankly insulting.

    I for one, will not be renewing my membership next time around and will be interested to see how many others will also leave.

    I'm just disappointed.

    I have been a tenclub member for 29 years. I have also been into math and economics for about 40 to varying degrees.  You benefited until now off of superior exchange rates which gave you a false sense of the ticket pricing model.  When all the data is equivalized the ticket prices have gone up abut $12 per tour for the last 4 tours on average.  Welcome to balanced exchange rates.   
    Green Day are playing a sold out 80k Wembley Stadium in London for £84 the same day PJ are playing a half empty 60k Tottenham Stadium at £160. Green day are bigger than Pearl Jam in the UK, quite considerably too. Are green day using a different exchange rate?  It's just a massive misunderstanding of the market and their value in it. Hence why there's about 30k tickets unsold days after it going on sale.
  • Greyhound06
    Greyhound06 Posts: 41
    edited February 2024
    I think, there are a lot of people who like to go to both gigs. GD and PJ. Still strange to see, that they are on the same day. 

    For Berlin it is ridiculous to sell the seats in the upper area for 175 €. Totally misunderstanding of the value. 
  • TK694
    TK694 Morrisville, NC Posts: 5
    Sadly, after being a fan club member since 1994, being a fan club member no longer gets you at least 2 tickets to a show and at a fair price.  I came off the waitlist on Friday for one of the 5 shows I registered for (Philly 9/9).  The best seats I was offered tickets for were in the first seating section off of the floor seating/pit in the 4th to last row stage left for $667 PER TICKET!  That is disgusting and I have lost A LOT of respect for the band.  This was the band I grew up with and if I had to say when asked the most important music in my life it would be PJ.  I am happy to pay more because of the costs increases the last few years, the wages of all the tour workers, etc. $200/250 per ticket, $400-500 for 2 great seats would be steep, but I'd pay that. But $1334 for 2 tickets?  $494 each for nosebleeds? No thanks, not enriching already wealthy "artists" and corporate a-holes like LiveNation/Ticketmaster.    
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,969
    TK694 said:
    Sadly, after being a fan club member since 1994, being a fan club member no longer gets you at least 2 tickets to a show and at a fair price.  I came off the waitlist on Friday for one of the 5 shows I registered for (Philly 9/9).  The best seats I was offered tickets for were in the first seating section off of the floor seating/pit in the 4th to last row stage left for $667 PER TICKET!  That is disgusting and I have lost A LOT of respect for the band.  This was the band I grew up with and if I had to say when asked the most important music in my life it would be PJ.  I am happy to pay more because of the costs increases the last few years, the wages of all the tour workers, etc. $200/250 per ticket, $400-500 for 2 great seats would be steep, but I'd pay that. But $1334 for 2 tickets?  $494 each for nosebleeds? No thanks, not enriching already wealthy "artists" and corporate a-holes like LiveNation/Ticketmaster.    
    That’s bad, a lot of us are in the same boat. I had a code for msg and the system locked for five minutes. I missed out on tickets by a few minutes according to posts in the porch. Prices immediately jumped to $900 for premium. 

    But what happened to rear stage tickets? They were sold for Seattle but not NY? Those of us with codes in TM at 10.15am like me would certainly have had tickets had they released with the verified onsale.


    Also, The club has not disclosed how the lottery took place with the removal of the priority system. It’s a simple question from membership to the club, why did so many fans seemingly go four for four in the east indoor shows?

    If each show was its own draw, as in the past , going four for four odds would be one in ten thousand, assuming ten percent odds for each. Some are suggesting there was one single lottery for the entire tour so if you got a good draw you would win five for five shows or ten for ten, and the rest of us, nothing. That is not a level playing field, as the rules tell us it was

    it’s only fair the club disclose to us how this new system worked and why some  got so lucky at ten thousand to one odds and so many got shut out. 
  • BudT
    BudT Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Posts: 60
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
  • JV130312
    JV130312 STATE OF LOVE & TRUST Posts: 2,521
    $1300 for two tickets to Pearl Jam is obnoxious...it's not Taylor Swift or the Super Bowl...it's Pearl Jam...lol
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,275
    Why aren’t they selling behind stage msg??? That’s ridiculous. 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,985
    JV130312 said:
    $1300 for two tickets to Pearl Jam is obnoxious...it's not Taylor Swift or the Super Bowl...it's Pearl Jam...lol
    Super Bowl tickets can run 8k to 10k each or more.  
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  • BudT
    BudT Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Posts: 60
    SHZA said:
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
    All your comments are telling people it's their fault and this is all normal. Is this Tim from 10c burner account?
  • Get_Right
    Get_Right Posts: 14,136
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why aren’t they selling behind stage msg??? That’s ridiculous. 

    Because they need to sell the high priced tickets first. Having backstage tickets available would decrease demand!
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    edited February 2024
    BudT said:
    SHZA said:
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
    All your comments are telling people it's their fault and this is all normal. Is this Tim from 10c burner account?
    What's not normal? Tickets sold like crazy. The market says the prices probably still aren't high enough.

    Edit: Wait you willingly paid 1300 for a pair and now you're mad about it?
    Post edited by pjl44 on
  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 772
    The biggest issue now is that the best seats on the house no longer applies. There are some examples of people getting similar seats as in the past but it seems that’s not the norm. My friend has 167xxxx. His seats were normally the section next to the stage or 2 sections over. For Vegas 2 he is across from the stage in the back. I got shut out for my shows (93xxx) but for the Chicago shows last year I was 2 rows behind the pit for one show, and 4 rows behind the pit for the other. I was always side stage 6-12 rows up. Where have these seats gone? I don’t see many people pulling these. 
  • BudT
    BudT Saratoga Springs, N.Y. Posts: 60
    pjl44 said:
    BudT said:
    SHZA said:
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
    All your comments are telling people it's their fault and this is all normal. Is this Tim from 10c burner account?
    What's not normal? Tickets sold like crazy. The market says the prices probably still aren't high enough.

    Edit: Wait you willingly paid 1300 for a pair and now you're mad about it?
    Of course I'm mad about it. THESE TICKETS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 10C TICKETS. That's what it boils down to, we should've had a shot at these tickets in the lottery.
  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 772
    Get_Right said:
    We are in agreement so not sure if we are having a debate or not =). The real travesty of this pricing/ticketing system is not so much the higher prices or TM's marketing techniques, but the removal of the best seats from the 10C sale. 
    This 100%
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    BudT said:
    pjl44 said:
    BudT said:
    SHZA said:
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
    All your comments are telling people it's their fault and this is all normal. Is this Tim from 10c burner account?
    What's not normal? Tickets sold like crazy. The market says the prices probably still aren't high enough.

    Edit: Wait you willingly paid 1300 for a pair and now you're mad about it?
    Of course I'm mad about it. THESE TICKETS SHOULD HAVE BEEN 10C TICKETS. That's what it boils down to, we should've had a shot at these tickets in the lottery.
    It really is never good enough
  • jdopj
    jdopj Posts: 772
    SHZA said:
    BudT said:
    To some people the band can't do anything wrong. PJ Premium is horseshit but I just bought a pair for almost $1,3000 and they are above 100 level. I know I don't have to pay it, but otherwise I'm way up top for almost as much money or I don't go. 
    $1,300 for a pair of tickets that are worse than I would get with my 10c #.  25 years in the club for them to gouge me with the equivalent of scalped tickets, tickets that used to be fan club tickets every tour. I'm probably checking out after this tour but I needed to finally hit my 50th show. There aren't enough tickets, but there really aren't enough for the 10c sale when they save those seats pulled out to be legally scalped to their fans. Tell me I'm an asshole for paying that much but they gave me no choice.
    Your choice was to wait and see how the market adjusts in the six months until the show. There will be other opportunities for tickets. 
    Everyone’s argument is F2F is great but you have to sit on there constantly and get a little lucky. Even if you time it with someone 
     that can go wrong. Yes there are some opportunities but not great ones. Plus the tickets on F2F aren’t going to be great this time around. Lots of undesirable tickets are going to get put up.
  • pjl44
    pjl44 Posts: 10,553
    I got shut out of 1 of the 2 shows I wanted and I have 6ish months to figure it out but what I am certainly not doing is impulsively paying $650 a seat
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,275
    Get_Right said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Why aren’t they selling behind stage msg??? That’s ridiculous. 

    Because they need to sell the high priced tickets first. Having backstage tickets available would decrease demand!
    Really? I don’t think anything will decrease demand for the two msg shows. 

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