Ticket prices. This is not for you (the fans).
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hadrielia said:I think PJ miscalculated this move for Europe. First that by all means those ticket prices are not the average in europe for a band like PJ, yeah they have fans, but they don't have the size as Taylor swift, ac/dc or other big acts that dare to charge that. It's delutional to think they are.So they don't have that big hardcore fanbase to sellout stadiums with those prices. Given that, only option is casual listeners, yeah no casual listener that is not rich will pay 160€ for a ticket, you will need hell amount of rich people to sell out stadiums.As for me, I was super excited to see them again. I was born the same year that the band got together. I haven't had too many opportunities to see them live, but Barcelona 2018 was the best concert of my life. This time around will only see them on Barcelona N1 and with a bittersweet taste, as my intention was to see them 2 nights but with these prices only have budget for one. This process has been a dissapointment, with 10c lottery new rules (I had to go to GA because I was not going to risk to get bad seats for that price) and complete proof that the band only cares about the money.
Maroon 5 cancelled their tour a couple years ago due to poor sales (not publicized but obvious), there were practically 60% of seats remaining after being on sale a couple weeks, the prices eclipsed the threshold and people said no way. I'm thinking Maroon 5 should be desirable if priced right ?0 -
Touring is crazy expensive and this band has long time employees who go to bat for them tour after tour. I had to help do budgets for a large concert series and they are a pain in the butt and sometimes we lost money and my salary as an employee was frozen. The budget has to make sense and they also like to break up the tours into smaller segments and not play a bazillion shows in stadiums like other bands. The cost of everything is high these days but for me the experiences I have with this band and the PJ community is worth what I'm paying. It is just a priority for me personally. I skipped many years of pj shows to work and raise my kids.
Now they are older, i'm trying to make up for it. I never know when this band won't be around anymore.Post edited by deb1211 on0 -
estarr31 said:This what a lot of Bruce fans complained about last Winter too. I'm not really sure how much control the band has in this. Would love to learn more about the ticketmaster process.0
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matt.watt said:Came off the waiting list to get VF tickets to Fenway. Midway in the rear bleachers was about the cheapest available. 2 tickets for $933 total. W.T.F. This is INSANE. Who the fuck are buying these tickets? Who can afford back of the floor seats for $700+ a piece?0
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False_Belief said:mace1229 said:guypjfreak said:As a disabled person I've had to pay for 2 tickets as Ticketmaster doesn't seem to recognise the disabled button.. Incase you didn't know if I are disabled...walking.....you can email the ticket companies and they should automatically let me buy 2 tickets and one free for my career..as it is I'm up a bit but got tickets so hey ho . lolol
Tried to get Barcelona tickets but that was Fubar
On a side note, if the "care giver" role requires extremely minimal medical knowledge/training and limited physical effort, I would love to pursue a side hustle as a "care giver" to take those wishing to attend a show (or sporting event).0 -
It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.0
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The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.0
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What did you expect after the member bundle, in the shop, went from $20 to $140?
Can’t wait to see the merch prices. 🤣Tell the captain
'This boats not safe
And we're drowning.'0 -
whoYouAre21 said:The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.0
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Genuinely have no idea how they're going to sell even half of the tickets at this price. It's either going to be Motley Crew at Wembley style empty, or they're going to have to make an admission they got it wrong and reduce prices on the less desirable seats.
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What's missing in all of this is the counter-argument to inflation and how the entire music industry has been turned on it's head since PJ vs. Ticketmaster. The artists are probably making a fraction on their albums/streams compared to what it was with CD sales in the 90's. Over the last several years concert prices have increased because this is now the primary money-maker for bands.
Not saying I love paying $149 USD for 10C tix, but just trying to look at the how things have changed. As for "PJ Premium at $900"... that's a whole other story.Post edited by southp on0 -
SHZA said:KidAOK said:It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that.0 -
AlaG said:whoYouAre21 said:The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.0
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southp said:What's missing in all of this is the counter-argument to inflation is that the entire music industry has been turned on it's head since PJ vs. Ticketmaster. The artists are probably making a fraction on their albums/streams compared to what it was with CD sales in the 90's. Over the last several years concert prices have increased because this is now the primary money-maker for bands.
Not saying I love paying $149 USD for 10C tix, but just trying to look at the how things have change. As for "PJ Premium at $900"... that's a whole other story.0 -
The simplest explanation is usually the best one. The band really likes money which explains the ticket prices..0
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Wolf359 said:SHZA said:KidAOK said:It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that.Post edited by SHZA on0 -
whoYouAre21 said:AlaG said:whoYouAre21 said:The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.0
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SHZA said:KidAOK said:It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
"Selling your product for what the market will bear": sounds like the right philosophy for a band who wrote a song called Green Disease.0 -
Wolf359 said:SHZA said:KidAOK said:It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that.
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