Ticket prices. This is not for you (the fans).

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  • nc_jammer1
    nc_jammer1 Posts: 547
    hadrielia said:
    I think PJ miscalculated this move for Europe. First that by all means those ticket prices are not the average in europe for a band like PJ, yeah they have fans, but they don't have the size as Taylor swift, ac/dc or other big acts that dare to charge that. It's delutional to think they are.

    So they don't have that big hardcore fanbase to sellout stadiums with those prices. Given  that, only option is casual listeners,  yeah no casual listener that is not rich will pay 160€ for a ticket, you will need hell amount of rich people to sell out stadiums.

    As for me, I was super excited to see them again. I was born the same year that the band got together. I haven't had too many opportunities to see them live, but Barcelona 2018 was the best concert of my life. This time around will only see them on Barcelona N1 and with a bittersweet taste, as my intention was to see them 2 nights but with these prices only have budget for one. This process has been a dissapointment, with 10c lottery new rules (I had to go to GA because I was not going to risk  to get bad seats for that price) and complete proof that the band only cares about the money.
    Agreed,  there is a threshold that bands have to be careful of.  Seems the demand for this tour is high so far, so they're doing alright.  If prices hike again during another tour in say 2 years, they could see a huge drop in demand. 
    Maroon 5 cancelled their tour a couple years ago due to poor sales (not publicized but obvious),  there were practically 60% of seats remaining after being on sale a couple weeks,  the prices eclipsed the threshold and people said no way.  I'm thinking Maroon 5 should be desirable if priced right ?
  • deb1211
    deb1211 Posts: 2,056
    edited February 2024
    Touring is crazy expensive and this band has long time employees who go to bat for them tour after tour. I had to help do budgets for a large concert series and they are a pain in the butt and sometimes we lost money and my salary as an employee was frozen. The budget has to make sense and they also like to break up the tours into smaller segments and not play a bazillion shows in stadiums like other bands. The cost of everything is high these days but for me the experiences I have with this band and the PJ community is worth what I'm paying. It is just a priority for me personally. I skipped many years of pj shows to work and raise my kids. 

    Now they are older, i'm trying to make up for it. I never know when this band won't be around anymore.
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  • CaliforniaSun77
    CaliforniaSun77 Los Angeles, CA Posts: 10
    estarr31 said:
    This what a lot of Bruce fans complained about last Winter too. I'm not really sure how much control the band has in this. Would love to learn more about the ticketmaster process. 
    They have a lot of control. The "Platinum/Premium" is something that can be turned on or off. And pricing is up to them. I appreciate the no resale over face, which again is an option any artist can make. Based on other recent LA shows, the $185 for floor/lowers is fine. For me it's the pricing of the seats way up in the rafters. I got Verified Fan for one of the LA shows and the top of the Forum is not selling. I don't blame people for not wanting to pay $176 for uppers. 
  • DG3350
    DG3350 Posts: 5
    matt.watt said:
    Came off the waiting list to get VF tickets to Fenway.  Midway in the rear bleachers was about the cheapest available.  2 tickets for $933 total.  W.T.F.  This is INSANE.  Who the fuck are buying these tickets?  Who can afford back of the floor seats for $700+ a piece?
    I came off the waitlist for Fenway 2 and tickets range from $112-$156. Nothing on the field. The more expensive ones are in the grandstand behind the plate and down the third baseline. The cheaper ones are in the upper pavilion boxes. Far away but a friend sat there in 2018 and said it was a pretty cool view. 
  • Wilco87
    Wilco87 Posts: 68
    False_Belief said:
    mace1229 said:
    guypjfreak said:
    As a disabled person I've had to pay for 2 tickets as Ticketmaster doesn't seem to recognise the disabled button.. Incase you didn't know if I are disabled...walking.....you can email the ticket companies and they should automatically let me buy 2 tickets and one free for my career..as it is I'm up a bit but got tickets so hey ho . lolol
    Tried to get Barcelona tickets but that was Fubar 
    A free ticket for your career?
    They obviously meant ‘carer’.   Stop being weird.  
    I don't think it was "weird". I was just as perplexed. Makes more sense.

    On a side note, if the "care giver" role requires extremely minimal medical knowledge/training and limited physical effort, I would love to pursue a side hustle as a "care giver" to take those wishing to attend a show (or sporting event).
  • KidAOK
    KidAOK Posts: 118
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
  • whoYouAre21
    whoYouAre21 Posts: 17
    The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.
  • perfectlefts14
    perfectlefts14 Posts: 2,079
    What did you expect after the member bundle, in the shop, went from $20 to $140?
    Can’t wait to see the merch prices. 🤣
    Tell the captain
    'This boats not safe
    And we're drowning.'
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    whoYouAre21 said:
    The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.
    Surely the alternative isn't just putting up a bunch of $30 tickets though. That's just asking for you to get scalped and for more fans to get hosed on the secondary market. Add to that $30 tickets probably wouldn't even buy airfare for their whole crew and all their gear to get from one venue to the next.
  • LiveAtLeeds
    LiveAtLeeds Posts: 156
    Genuinely have no idea how they're going to sell even half of the tickets at this price. It's either going to be Motley Crew at Wembley style empty, or they're going to have to make an admission they got it wrong and reduce prices on the less desirable seats. 


  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    KidAOK said:
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
    Selling your product for what the market will bear is inexcusable? 
  • southp
    southp Posts: 307
    edited February 2024
    What's missing in all of this is the counter-argument to inflation and how the entire music industry has been turned on it's head since PJ vs. Ticketmaster.  The artists are probably making a fraction on their albums/streams compared to what it was with CD sales in the 90's. Over the last several years concert prices have increased because this is now the primary money-maker for bands.  

    Not saying I love paying $149 USD for 10C tix, but just trying to look at the how things have changed.  As for "PJ Premium at $900"... that's a whole other story.
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  • Wolf359
    Wolf359 Posts: 102
    SHZA said:
    KidAOK said:
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
    Selling your product for what the market will bear is inexcusable? 

    No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that. 
  • whoYouAre21
    whoYouAre21 Posts: 17
    AlaG said:
    whoYouAre21 said:
    The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.
    Surely the alternative isn't just putting up a bunch of $30 tickets though. That's just asking for you to get scalped and for more fans to get hosed on the secondary market. Add to that $30 tickets probably wouldn't even buy airfare for their whole crew and all their gear to get from one venue to the next.
    Yeah, I'm not saying it would be an outrage for them to stray from their 18 dollar policy somewhat. I guess I'm bothered the most by the fact that there was no attempt to have a reasonable price point for some tickets, combined with the outrageous premium prices. Frankly, when you pay a ton of money to a scalper, it doesn't feel as bad because you have no respect for the scalper. But to feel like your favorite band is trying to fleece people, that stings.
  • LiveAtLeeds
    LiveAtLeeds Posts: 156
    southp said:
    What's missing in all of this is the counter-argument to inflation is that the entire music industry has been turned on it's head since PJ vs. Ticketmaster.  The artists are probably making a fraction on their albums/streams compared to what it was with CD sales in the 90's. Over the last several years concert prices have increased because this is now the primary money-maker for bands.  

    Not saying I love paying $149 USD for 10C tix, but just trying to look at the how things have change.  As for "PJ Premium at $900"... that's a whole other story.
    Completely fair point. But it's going to be a lot more expensive for them to play to 15k people in 60k seater stadium which is what it's looking like in London. I guarantee if tickets were 110 it would have almost sold out by now. 120 and it would be 3 quarters gone. 160 is just so much for their appeal in this market that the general public are just not having it.
  • Jim Tressel
    Jim Tressel Posts: 138
    The simplest explanation is usually the best one. The band really likes money which explains the ticket prices.. 
  • SHZA
    SHZA St. Louis, MO USA Posts: 4,314
    edited February 2024
    Wolf359 said:
    SHZA said:
    KidAOK said:
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
    Selling your product for what the market will bear is inexcusable? 

    No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that. 
    Chalking it up as a Ticketmaster issue would be fans making excuses. Setting the prices where they are is what apparently is being described as inexcusable. So the answer to my question is yes 
    Post edited by SHZA on
  • AlaG
    AlaG Brookline, MA Posts: 979
    edited February 2024
    whoYouAre21 said:
    AlaG said:
    whoYouAre21 said:
    The thought that the band does not have control over these prices or does not approve of them is naive. I am still shelling out and going to Wrigley, but it's quite clear that they have lost touch with their principles and the portion of their fanbase that is not wealthy. In 94, when they were trying to keep prices to 18 bucks ($31 in today's dollars) they were one of the biggest bands in the world. They were choosing to leave money on the table because it was the right thing to do. And I know they spoke specifically about the portion of their fans who were teenagers. And yeah those fans are middle aged now but it doesn't mean they can all pay 175 a ticket, let alone 800 for a "premium" seat. Pearl Jam no longer cares about those fans. I still like the band, but it's pretty disappointing.
    Surely the alternative isn't just putting up a bunch of $30 tickets though. That's just asking for you to get scalped and for more fans to get hosed on the secondary market. Add to that $30 tickets probably wouldn't even buy airfare for their whole crew and all their gear to get from one venue to the next.
    Yeah, I'm not saying it would be an outrage for them to stray from their 18 dollar policy somewhat. I guess I'm bothered the most by the fact that there was no attempt to have a reasonable price point for some tickets, combined with the outrageous premium prices. Frankly, when you pay a ton of money to a scalper, it doesn't feel as bad because you have no respect for the scalper. But to feel like your favorite band is trying to fleece people, that stings.
    Yeah. I feel that. And I do think to some extent when folks acquire new means, they still complain about the macroeconomic environment and how "everything is so expensive nowadays, so it has to be this way." And sure there's some truth to that. But I'm still seeing the poor getting poorer and the rich getting richer as well.
  • whoYouAre21
    whoYouAre21 Posts: 17
    SHZA said:
    KidAOK said:
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
    Selling your product for what the market will bear is inexcusable?

    "Selling your product for what the market will bear": sounds like the right philosophy for a band who wrote a song called Green Disease.
  • gettingright
    gettingright Posts: 550
    Wolf359 said:
    SHZA said:
    KidAOK said:
    It's really disappointing to see fans making excuses for the inexcusable.
    Selling your product for what the market will bear is inexcusable? 

    No, chalking up the pricing structure/premium/platinum as a Ticketmaster issue is inexcusable. The band/management sets the prices. TM is the middleman who happily takes a cut. Simple as that. 
    Or that paying to be a member in the fan club (over 20 years in my case) should mean something more that getting a ticket 4 sections down from the stage on the side, 5 rows from the back of the section in the middle of the row when there are tons of seats sold at prices that are better 4x higher. . 


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