Dark Matter World Tour 2024
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How much is the % to win the draw? Is it very high, high, low o very low?
I chose only Barcelona 1 and 2.Milan 2014, Trieste 2014, Milan 2018, Padua 2018, Rome 2018, Berlin 2022, Imola 2022, Frankfurt 2022, Wien 2022, Prague 2022, Amsterdam-1 20220 -
This past weekend, I bought tickets for my wife and her teacher friends to go to the Bored Teachers tour show. The tickets were $32, after fees and taxes they were $46.50. 50% of the original ticket price. That is crazy.0
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I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.0 -
These ticket prices are a bargain. Overall the actual cost to go to any of the big shows has increased 3x just since Covid.
$400 for a pair of tickets to see PJ is a steal and an incredible value. Good luck!
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Gotta click the check boxes before adding tickets.Spags said:Spags said:Just tried to go in for the Berlin shows but it won't let me add any tickets. Anybody have a fix for that? I went in using the TC link and everything!
Anybody else get to this screen but it doesn't let you click the big blue plus sign to change the number of tickets?
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DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.
Not the worst in the house, but unlike other tours over the decades, 10c no longer gets all the best seats in the house. A solid chunk go to pj premium (platinum), and the platinum tickets tend to be good ones (not ones in the nosebleeds). Odds are you would be sitting substantially further back then you have on previous tours.
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Bingohadrielia said:Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them (tenclub) having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
I would say to sell really bad seats for a really good price that no one would pay in general sale0 -
Zod said:DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.
Not the worst in the house, but unlike other tours over the decades, 10c no longer gets all the best seats in the house. A solid chunk go to pj premium (platinum), and the platinum tickets tend to be good ones (not ones in the nosebleeds). Odds are you would be sitting substantially further back then you have on previous tours.
That is the biggest disappointment rather than the prices. That MSG map fully illustrates the concessions the band has made.0 -
Understood, but I guess my question is will you get those bad seats weather you choose the GA/Res box or just went for Res only seats when you make your seating pick for the lottery?Zod said:DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.
Not the worst in the house, but unlike other tours over the decades, 10c no longer gets all the best seats in the house. A solid chunk go to pj premium (platinum), and the platinum tickets tend to be good ones (not ones in the nosebleeds). Odds are you would be sitting substantially further back then you have on previous tours.0 -
no doubt it sucks...I put in for (9) pairs....says around $3400.00 its absurd to think it was prob 40% less ten years ago....but in the big picture you have to take whats going on in the world as a major factor
my question is, once inflation gets under control, will prices on concert tix come down/ other products.....answer is most likely not, thats the frustrating thing....if you thought it was only a few year period to get thru, but once prices hit certain levels they rarely come back down to earth0 -
No no no. Your seat will still be assigned on seniority.DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.Your seat will likely be farther back than it used to be. Same as everyone else. But you will have a better seat than others commiserate with your 10c number.
I am saying that everyone got moved further back. Many waaaaayy further back. Last year there we member #s in the 300s in the upper deck opposite corners from the stage. Anyone who joined after that, forget about it. These are the people who were most likely to go GA or bust due to high 10c #s. Whereas 2016, 2018, 2020 these people still got good reserved seats if they missed GA (2020 tour I got lower bowl for 3 shows), now they are landing the worst seats in the house and arguably overpaying to boot.0 -
I would think / hope that all seats are prioritized based on seniority regardless of your entry selection.DEGBTI said:
Understood, but I guess my question is will you get those bad seats weather you choose the GA/Res box or just went for Res only seats when you make your seating pick for the lottery?Zod said:DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.
Not the worst in the house, but unlike other tours over the decades, 10c no longer gets all the best seats in the house. A solid chunk go to pj premium (platinum), and the platinum tickets tend to be good ones (not ones in the nosebleeds). Odds are you would be sitting substantially further back then you have on previous tours.
If a low # member loses out on GA and then gets seated behind members with higher numbers who selected reserved seating exclusively, then there's really no point in going in for the lottery at all anymore, unless you're ok taking your chances for GA.
Is the F2F exclusive to the 10C?
If not, that's one more reason not to pay these dues every year.0 -
Yeah, my seats in St Paul last year were significantly further back than my seats in Philly in 2016.JBob87 said:
No no no. Your seat will still be assigned on seniority.DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.Your seat will likely be farther back than it used to be. Same as everyone else. But you will have a better seat than others commiserate with your 10c number.
I am saying that everyone got moved further back. Many waaaaayy further back. Last year there we member #s in the 300s in the upper deck opposite corners from the stage. Anyone who joined after that, forget about it. These are the people who were most likely to go GA or bust due to high 10c #s. Whereas 2016, 2018, 2020 these people still got good reserved seats if they missed GA (2020 tour I got lower bowl for 3 shows), now they are landing the worst seats in the house and arguably overpaying to boot.
There may have been more 10C members in StP, with significantly less shows to get to in 2023, but man... the seats were WAY further back.0 -
So for PJ if the ticket price is $140 (for most shows) and fees are $35….that’s a 20% fee compared to thst example. That’s not bad. I think if we all saw $140 when selecting tickets, and then at checkout got charged $185 after fees and taxes, the conversation would be shifted to TM and LiveNation.JeBurkhardt said:This past weekend, I bought tickets for my wife and her teacher friends to go to the Bored Teachers tour show. The tickets were $32, after fees and taxes they were $46.50. 50% of the original ticket price. That is crazy.2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x20 -
So, it looks like you can choose "GA/P1" or "P1". So, if you choose just "GA/P1" and don't get GA, you'll be in P1 with the others who either didn't get GA or chose just P1, and seats in P1 will be assigned by seniority.DEGBTI said:
Understood, but I guess my question is will you get those bad seats weather you choose the GA/Res box or just went for Res only seats when you make your seating pick for the lottery?Zod said:DEGBTI said:
I kinda dont understand this. If I pick GA/res and dont get the GA tix, you are saying I now will get the worst res tickets in the house? If I have a low member number wouldn't I get my res seat based on seniority?JBob87 said:
Almost certainly yes.Spiritual_Chaos said:Is the reason for not having "only GA" this time around, them having so few GA tickets in the house available that they just want to make it easy and instead of have a bunch of people go for GA and nothing else, they force them into seat-tickets?
Or what is the reason for it?
TM WANTS to sell the worst seats to the most rabid fans. With the hope that they will then desperately upgrade to a PJ Premium ticket (aka more money for TM) and dump their original ticket. In markets with open resale, 10c nosebleeds were often selling for below face…as I sA with the Chicago shows (MSG is a lone and obvious exception). The rabid fan then becomes the “bag holder”, taking the loss, but it’s spread out over a few transactions and a few CC bills so it is less painful and noticeable. Alternative would be for TM to sell the nosebleeds at “market value” aka what the secondary market will bear, but under this system they sell it for full freight and the rabid fan takes the loss.
TM wanting to unload the worst seats early to the biggest fans at full price is the reason why there is no GA only option. It’s the only thing that makes any kind of sense.Entire situation is a farce. Elimination of priority probably the final straw for me.
Not the worst in the house, but unlike other tours over the decades, 10c no longer gets all the best seats in the house. A solid chunk go to pj premium (platinum), and the platinum tickets tend to be good ones (not ones in the nosebleeds). Odds are you would be sitting substantially further back then you have on previous tours.
I think the only way you'd end up behind higher numbers (assuming this all actually works correctly) is if the show also had a P2 section, you chose all three to maximize your chances, and got P2 while members with higher numbers got P1.
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What is this "PJ Premium"? Has Pearl Jam started with VIP tickets and shit now too?"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0
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Spiritual_Chaos said:What is this "PJ Premium"? Has Pearl Jam started with VIP tickets and shit now too?
PJ Premium:
PJ Premium seats are located in a variety of preferred locations and account for approximately 10% of ticket inventory per show. They are priced at market rate to offset increased touring costs while also keeping prices low for the rest of the ticket inventory. PJ Premium tickets will only be available through Ticketmaster Registration Sale along with regularly priced tickets.
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Thanks. Nice to see a "we know this is a bit yucky to be a part of"-explanation for why. I appreciate that. Hah.Force Of Nature said:Spiritual_Chaos said:What is this "PJ Premium"? Has Pearl Jam started with VIP tickets and shit now too?PJ Premium:
PJ Premium seats are located in a variety of preferred locations and account for approximately 10% of ticket inventory per show. They are priced at market rate to offset increased touring costs while also keeping prices low for the rest of the ticket inventory. PJ Premium tickets will only be available through Ticketmaster Registration Sale along with regularly priced tickets.
"Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"0 -
I’m very undecided at the moment. Realistically I’m fortunate enough that I can afford a couple of tickets to each of the uk shows. That being said for 2 people, travel, hotels, meals etc makes each show at least £500 a pop so maybe a grand for 2 shows/nights out. That just feels like too much to me this time. I know the tickets are fairly priced compared to other acts in real terms. It’ll be the first full band tour of Europe I miss in 24 years if I don’t go and I think I’m ok with that this time around.0
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thanks for the answers!0
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