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  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    CG658530 said:
    Not sure if anyone else has said this but the level of entitlement displayed in this thread is off the fucking charts. The band owes you nothing more than a good faith effort to play the gigs they said they were going to play. They do that. Before COVID, there was no expectation that one would try to avoid getting sick. Shit happens. If in 2005 Eddie had gotten the flu and couldn't perform because his voice was fucked up, y'all wouldn't have batted an eye that he'd been visiting his *childhood home* and mingling about with *other people*. They're humans, and they're allowed to do human things while on tour. 
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  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    mvw said:
    Summersas79 said:
    OK, so all I wanna know is EXACTLYY WHO is sick an with WHAT? I'm not complaining am just scared an worried. Cus if it were Mike, Jeff, Stone or even Matt, they could've got someone to cover. The ONLY person in the whole band that can't be covered is Ed. Which makes me worry most. Sending all the love, health energy an vitality that I can muster to whoever is sick (cus I could be wrong but, I sincerely doubt it). Please tell us who specifically asap an what's wrong so we can focus our energies on healing them specifically. An protecting the rest. Thanks. 🥰

    P.s. Apologies to the PJ Forum, have been away for a while dealing with life an shizzle. Am here now an I sincerely doubt anyone noticed my absence, but just in case. Am so happy to be back. ❤️
    Good to have you back!
    Thankies. 😁
  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    edited September 2023
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    Yeah, but you know as well as we ALL DO that in the great grande scheme, if PJ continues without J,M,S, or Mi... Let alone Boom... If they had stand ins for a night or two for those guys, you'd fucking be there for those guys space holders. But, no Ed? No fuckin show. Period. Yeah, no one's showing up for that. An WE ALL KNOW IT. Done. 
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,833
    edited September 2023
    For those deciding about FW plans, as data points only I went back to the Euro 2022 cancellation notices for Prague and AMS1.  Those are comparable to FW1 and FW2 in that they are the first two scheduled shows after the surprise cancellation show (Vienna, like Noblesville).  

    For Prague cancellation notice was sent the day before the show.  For AMS1 it was the day of the show.  

    The only other data point I can recall is that when Sacramento was cancelled (surprise cancellation) Vegas went down with it in the same newsflash.  I think that was 2 days notice for Vegas but am not positive.

    It is ultimately still guesswork to know what to do.  An update tomorrow would not be an unreasonable thing to hope for, not that I expect one. 
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  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    Pottsy199 said:
    tish said:
    ^ no way. You know, Stone was the problem. It was Stone.


    Laughed.
    🤣😂
  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    tish said:
    Summersas79 said:
    OK, so all I wanna know is EXACTLYY WHO is sick an with WHAT? I'm not complaining am just scared an worried. Cus if it were Mike, Jeff, Stone or even Matt, they could've got someone to cover. The ONLY person in the whole band that can't be covered is Ed. Which makes me worry most. Sending all the love, health energy an vitality that I can muster to whoever is sick (cus I could be wrong but, I sincerely doubt it). Please tell us who specifically asap an what's wrong so we can focus our energies on healing them specifically. An protecting the rest. Thanks. 🥰

    P.s. Apologies to the PJ Forum, have been away for a while dealing with life an shizzle. Am here now an I sincerely doubt anyone noticed my absence, but just in case. Am so happy to be back. ❤️
    Missed you, Grlll!
    Thankies! So so happy to be back after 3.5yrs. Jesus! I can't wrap my head around that! Holy f*ck! Glad to connect with ya agains. 😁
  • Summersas79
    Summersas79 Apple Valley, CA Posts: 89
    runstaples said:
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
  • PJHOOKEM
    PJHOOKEM Posts: 43
    Summersas79 said:
    runstaples said:
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Lol no thanks. PJ is the entire band. Ed with a backing band playing PJ is not PJ. It’s Eddie and a backing band. If the ticket says Pearl Jam it better be the entire line up. Crazy anyone thinks otherwise. Couldn’t be more wrong. Can’t even believe this is a thought. 
  • The Camaros Hood
    The Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 482

    Well, here goes nothing. Boston to Texas. Hoping no more cancellations and the next 4 go off without a hitch. Thankfully I’m from FW/ATX and have lots of family, friends and restaurants to visit if there are more cancellations. But sending positive vibes there aren’t. Safe travels everyone! 
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  • DE4173
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  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    Good luck!
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  • BSully
    BSully Indiana Posts: 1,503
    I've been thinking about trying for one of the Austin shows now...
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  • PJHOOKEM
    PJHOOKEM Posts: 43
    The Camaros Hood said:

    Well, here goes nothing. Boston to Texas. Hoping no more cancellations and the next 4 go off without a hitch. Thankfully I’m from FW/ATX and have lots of family, friends and restaurants to visit if there are more cancellations. But sending positive vibes there aren’t. Safe travels everyone! 
    Welcome home! Safe travels!
  • The Camaros Hood
    The Camaros Hood Boston, MA Posts: 482
    PJHOOKEM said:
    The Camaros Hood said:

    Well, here goes nothing. Boston to Texas. Hoping no more cancellations and the next 4 go off without a hitch. Thankfully I’m from FW/ATX and have lots of family, friends and restaurants to visit if there are more cancellations. But sending positive vibes there aren’t. Safe travels everyone! 
    Welcome home! Safe travels!
    Thanks! 🤘🏽
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  • THEBIBLEISTEN
    THEBIBLEISTEN Posts: 2,023
    RatherStarved said:
    For those deciding about FW plans, as data points only I went back to the Euro 2022 cancellation notices for Prague and AMS1.  Those are comparable to FW1 and FW2 in that they are the first two scheduled shows after the surprise cancellation show (Vienna, like Noblesville).  

    For Prague cancellation notice was sent the day before the show.  For AMS1 it was the day of the show.  

    The only other data point I can recall is that when Sacramento was cancelled (surprise cancellation) Vegas went down with it in the same newsflash.  I think that was 2 days notice for Vegas but am not positive.

    It is ultimately still guesswork to know what to do.  An update tomorrow would not be an unreasonable thing to hope for, not that I expect one. 
    What’s a data point? 
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    Hoping for a quick recovery for whoever is ill. I'm still planning on driving in even if the show is cancelled for Friday. Really looking forward to seeing some great friends.
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  • yield2me
    yield2me Posts: 1,291
    Just call Jack Irons!
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  • covered in bliss
    covered in bliss chi-caw-go Posts: 1,332
    It's interesting to speculate. My guess is an imminent death in the family for someone & they had to say their goodbyes. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Summersas79 said:
    runstaples said:
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Strong disagree here… as talented a performer as Ed is, there’s a reason I could take or leave his solo shows but will travel thousands of miles for Pearl Jam. I could take a stand in for Matt or Boom for a night, but it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam w/ out Mike running around like a squirrel on cocaine or Jeff & Stone locked in on their grooves. 

    Would I have boycotted one of the St Paul shows if I knew Josh was filling for one of those three? Of course not… but I would have been disappointed about missing that musician, and in my mind there would be an asterisk next to that show. 
  • mcgruff10
    mcgruff10 New Jersey Posts: 29,190
    Merkin Baller said:
    Summersas79 said:
    runstaples said:
    Spurs14 said:
    It's Pearl Jam, not Eddie Vedder and friends.  I want to see and hear Ed, Jeff, Stone, Mike, and Matt or I'd be massively disappointed.
    Apologies to Boom and Josh.
    I 3rd this. Eddie is great, but it's not the same without them all. Each person brings a unique fire and sound. I can't imagine someone covering for one of them, it wouldn't be Pearl Jam.
    Yes it would... Ed IS PJ. You can take Ed out of PJ an he'll carry it wherever he goes. Any other guy an no... Nope. Uh-uh. They can't carry that weight individually, he can tho. 
    Strong disagree here… as talented a performer as Ed is, there’s a reason I could take or leave his solo shows but will travel thousands of miles for Pearl Jam. I could take a stand in for Matt or Boom for a night, but it wouldn’t be Pearl Jam w/ out Mike running around like a squirrel on cocaine or Jeff & Stone locked in on their grooves. 

    Would I have boycotted one of the St Paul shows if I knew Josh was filling for one of those three? Of course not… but I would have been disappointed about missing that musician, and in my mind there would be an asterisk next to that show. 
    I think the vast majority of us wouldn't notice musically if any of the members minus ed wasn't playing a specific night.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
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