Pearl Jam Ruoff Music Center Postponement

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  • Hankj25
    Hankj25 Posts: 388
    Well my tinfoil hat tells me that if their statement was true, and someone in the band was really sick on Sunday, they must have found a way to swap in someone for tonight.  We all know who the obvious choice was for this type of scenario.  Either way, looks like FW may get their shows, which despite my personal wallowing, is a good thing.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Hankj25 said:
    Well my tinfoil hat tells me that if their statement was true, and someone in the band was really sick on Sunday, they must have found a way to swap in someone for tonight.  We all know who the obvious choice was for this type of scenario.  Either way, looks like FW may get their shows, which despite my personal wallowing, is a good thing.
    In fairness though, we only assumed it was someone in the band, the statement wasn’t specific… it could have been one of their family members for all we know. 

    I also think what we saw last year w/ stand ins for sick band members will have been an aberration, I don’t see that happening much moving forward. (But what do I know?) 
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    mr bungle said:
    Couldn't Josh fill in for anyone except Eddie on any given night if needed?  Look at the lengths the band went to last year to keep the tour rolling!   They used Josh and just about every other drummer in there history behind the kit.  Wasn't untill the second member got sick that they pulled the plug.  Just thinking out loud here.
    Yes - that’s why I think EV was the one down for the count.
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  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,411
    lowbudgetlush said:
    There is no way this was canceled because of 6000 oversold tickets. The venue would have taken it on the chin and refunded those that showed up. I’m sure they would have sent out an email saying not to show up. Why on earth would Pearl Jam take the hit for the venue? They wouldn’t.
    Right - why not just instantly cancel and refund the last 6,000 tickets sold for the lawn days before the show. No way PJ took the blame for this.
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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    I can't wrap my brain around people thinking Josh could fill in for Mike. I suppose that speaks more to the limitations of my own imagination than anything else. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 15,029
    Josh can play every instrument no problems. Not saying he is anywhere near what people want. But that guy plays every instrument very well


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  • bootlegger10
    bootlegger10 Posts: 16,296
    Merkin Baller said:
    I can't wrap my brain around people thinking Josh could fill in for Mike. I suppose that speaks more to the limitations of my own imagination than anything else. 
    They are professional guitar players.  But they would have to do rehearsing of 40 songs I would expect for Josh to get comfortable.  It is one thing to join on stage for RITFW or some other famous song all musicians know, and totally other thing to play specific parts to compliment Stone and Ed’s guitars
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    bootlegger10 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I can't wrap my brain around people thinking Josh could fill in for Mike. I suppose that speaks more to the limitations of my own imagination than anything else. 
    They are professional guitar players.  But they would have to do rehearsing of 40 songs I would expect for Josh to get comfortable.  It is one thing to join on stage for RITFW or some other famous song all musicians know, and totally other thing to play specific parts to compliment Stone and Ed’s guitars
    I understand. 

    I still don't see anyone replacing McCready's stage presence. Pearl Jam without Mike McCready wouldn't be Pearl Jam to me. I wouldn't boycott the show, and would appreciate them trying to power through, but I also understand if they took the position of not wanting to play if one of the 5 core members was unable. 
  • Gern Blansten
    Gern Blansten Mar-A-Lago Posts: 22,731
    Merkin Baller said:
    bootlegger10 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    I can't wrap my brain around people thinking Josh could fill in for Mike. I suppose that speaks more to the limitations of my own imagination than anything else. 
    They are professional guitar players.  But they would have to do rehearsing of 40 songs I would expect for Josh to get comfortable.  It is one thing to join on stage for RITFW or some other famous song all musicians know, and totally other thing to play specific parts to compliment Stone and Ed’s guitars
    I understand. 

    I still don't see anyone replacing McCready's stage presence. Pearl Jam without Mike McCready wouldn't be Pearl Jam to me. I wouldn't boycott the show, and would appreciate them trying to power through, but I also understand if they took the position of not wanting to play if one of the 5 core members was unable. 
    agreed....I don't see that happening at all
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  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,445
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    nicknyr15 said:
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
    Maybe it was Josh who was sick, and he's such an integral part of the live show now that no one could fill in for him... 

    I'm just sayin... 
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,445
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
    Maybe it was Josh who was sick, and he's such an integral part of the live show now that no one could fill in for him... 

    I'm just sayin... 
    bro…. Imagine traveling there and that’s the reason they canceled ? I’d be pissed honestly 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    nicknyr15 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
    Maybe it was Josh who was sick, and he's such an integral part of the live show now that no one could fill in for him... 

    I'm just sayin... 
    bro…. Imagine traveling there and that’s the reason they canceled ? I’d be pissed honestly  
    Why else would the statement be so vague? This is clearly what happened. Josh has been groomed to replace everyone else in the band... but no one's been groomed to replace HIM. They should have planned for this.  

     :D  
  • tbergs
    tbergs Posts: 10,502
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
    Maybe it was Josh who was sick, and he's such an integral part of the live show now that no one could fill in for him... 

    I'm just sayin... 
    bro…. Imagine traveling there and that’s the reason they canceled ? I’d be pissed honestly  
    Why else would the statement be so vague? This is clearly what happened. Josh has been groomed to replace everyone else in the band... but no one's been groomed to replace HIM. They should have planned for this.  

     :D  
    :lol:
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,445
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    nicknyr15 said:
    For all we know Josh has been studying the past 2 years to fill in for anyone at any given time on any instrument. Even if he knows the top 50 most played songs in their arsenal. All he has to do is play the parts. No need to jam or solo for 5 minutes. 
    Maybe it was Josh who was sick, and he's such an integral part of the live show now that no one could fill in for him... 

    I'm just sayin... 
    bro…. Imagine traveling there and that’s the reason they canceled ? I’d be pissed honestly  
    Why else would the statement be so vague? This is clearly what happened. Josh has been groomed to replace everyone else in the band... but no one's been groomed to replace HIM. They should have planned for this.  

     :D  
    😂😂😂  
  • Dr. Matt
    Dr. Matt Posts: 204
    edited September 2023
    Perhaps a glimmer of hope (?).....when I looked at my ticketma$ter account on Monday, I don't recall seeing "date announced soon". 🤷🏻‍♂️    



    Post edited by Dr. Matt on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,027
    Dr. Matt said:
    Perhaps a glimmer of hope (?).....when I looked at my ticketma$ter account on Monday, I don't recall seeing "data announced soon". 🤷🏻‍♂️    



    It said that for almost 2 years after the original 2020 Covid shows got postponed
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  • ddeschler
    ddeschler Posts: 690
    "Soon."  Lol.  Coming, March 2024.
    I've seen quite a few Pearl Jam shows.
  • Dr. Matt
    Dr. Matt Posts: 204
    Weston1283 said:
    Dr. Matt said:
    Perhaps a glimmer of hope (?).....when I looked at my ticketma$ter account on Monday, I don't recall seeing "data announced soon". 🤷🏻‍♂️    



    It said that for almost 2 years after the original 2020 Covid shows got postponed
    Ugh.  NM then.  
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me.
  • cmikehelton
    cmikehelton Posts: 242
    Dr. Matt said:
    Perhaps a glimmer of hope (?).....when I looked at my ticketma$ter account on Monday, I don't recall seeing "date announced soon". 🤷🏻‍♂️    



    ... :o  
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    The wisdom that the old can't give away, hey
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