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  • mickeyrat
    mickeyrat Posts: 45,289
    edited February 2023
    jwhjr17 said:
    benjs said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Can't the argument still be made that the mask mandates didn't work because they weren't followed closely enough?

    Of course it would work if done correctly. It just seems so elementary to me I don't understand why it creates such an argument.

    And this Bret Stephens guy is the one that threw a fit and quit Twitter for awhile because someone called him a "bedbug."
    We don't know this do we?
    Propensity to contract an airborne disease is proportional to viral load a person is exposed to, which spreads easier (and a greater amount of viral load travels) without a mask than with one. If you know anyone who needs to sneeze, you could do an experiment right now to prove that.

    What part of this are you uncertain about?
    None of it.  Since it wasn't done correctly according to the comment we don't know what the impact would have been and can only speculate.

    what we do know and have for over 100 yrs is during surgeries deaths from infection and other complications were drastically reduced with the adoption of surgical teams wearing masks.

    Certain Asian countries regularly wear masks to reduce the effects of pollution, to good effect apparently given the reported rates of asthma and other respiratory ailments being less than here.


    what seems apparent is the proper fitment and wearing of masks has positive effects on outcomes across a spectrum of uses.
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  • jwhjr17
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    mickeyrat said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    benjs said:
    jwhjr17 said:
    Gern Blansten said:
    Can't the argument still be made that the mask mandates didn't work because they weren't followed closely enough?

    Of course it would work if done correctly. It just seems so elementary to me I don't understand why it creates such an argument.

    And this Bret Stephens guy is the one that threw a fit and quit Twitter for awhile because someone called him a "bedbug."
    We don't know this do we?
    Propensity to contract an airborne disease is proportional to viral load a person is exposed to, which spreads easier (and a greater amount of viral load travels) without a mask than with one. If you know anyone who needs to sneeze, you could do an experiment right now to prove that.

    What part of this are you uncertain about?
    None of it.  Since it wasn't done correctly according to the comment we don't know what the impact would have been and can only speculate.

    what we do know and have for over 100 yrs is during surgeries deaths from infection and other complications were drastically reduced with the afoption of surgicsl tesms wearing masks.

    Certain Asian countries regularly wear masks to reduce the effects of pollution, to good effect apprently given the reported rates of asthma and other respiratory ailments being less than here.


    what seems apparent is the proper fitment and wearing of masks has positive effects on outcomes across a spectrum of uses.
    100% agree
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  • Poncier
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    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    will point out too, the vaccine also reduces the viral load of someone vaxxed who test positive thereby REDUCING transmission... ..
    Will also point out that the vaccine may also reduce your life span thereby REDUCING transmission. 
    Athletes are dropping dead left and right on playing fields and courts. You can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting an athlete dying from the vaccine.


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  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    Poncier said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    will point out too, the vaccine also reduces the viral load of someone vaxxed who test positive thereby REDUCING transmission... ..
    Will also point out that the vaccine may also reduce your life span thereby REDUCING transmission. 
    Athletes are dropping dead left and right on playing fields and courts. You can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting an athlete dying from the vaccine.



    Come on now… let’s not let Damar Hamlin’s death from the vaccine and replacement with a body double by Big Pharma be for naught… we need to take these unsubstantiated reports more seriously. 
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,222
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
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  • The Juggler
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    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    Wouldn't a study like that have to take, like, 9 decades or so?
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  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    The science is anyone that has a heart attack, stroke, cancer or motorcycle accident under the age of 96 obviously died of the vax. That science is unassailable.  
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,222
    mrussel1 said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    The science is anyone that has a heart attack, stroke, cancer or motorcycle accident under the age of 96 obviously died of the vax. That science is unassailable.  
    Oh thanks so if I only live to 85 my family should be able to sue Pfizer for wrongfully cutting my 170 year natural lifespan short?
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,687
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    Wouldn't a study like that have to take, like, 9 decades or so?
    Exactly what big pharma wants you to think! 
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    Go Beavers said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    Wouldn't a study like that have to take, like, 9 decades or so?
    Exactly what big pharma wants you to think! 
    There's always "next level" for conspiracies.  The argument can never be finished.  It's genius.  
  • static111
    static111 Posts: 5,222
    mrussel1 said:
    Go Beavers said:
    The Juggler said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    Wouldn't a study like that have to take, like, 9 decades or so?
    Exactly what big pharma wants you to think! 
    There's always "next level" for conspiracies.  The argument can never be finished.  It's genius.  
    Surely there is no goalpost moving involved?
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  • lindamarie73
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    brianlux said:
    Halifax2TheMax said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    static111 said:
    23scidoo said:
    the reality..like it or not..
    https://www.tiktok.com/@stranger471111/video/7201057304266034437
    Dude I am a person who is slightly skeptical of the covid vaccines and very cautious about the pharmaceutical industry in general.  I do however like full data from multiple sources.  This video is a bunch of headlines only, and the laughable thing is that if you slow the video down to look at the headlines you can see the efficacy waning over time from 2020 to 2022 as the virus was mutating and variants were emerging.  It also appears the gotcha vid is addressing only the ability to prevent infection, not the protection from severe outcomes.  I'm not sure what the point of that video is, to let us know that as the virus mutated that the vaccine was less effective at preventing transmission?  Haven't we known this, at least those of us who have been looking at the data from the get go, for a couple years now?

    I'm just not sure what the point this video is trying to make.  Also Tik Tok is bull shit and is horrible for your brain.

    My question all this time is this..if they didn't knew for sure, why all this shit??.passporst, people lose their jobs, doctors and scientists are ιn the margin, ''no one will be safe until will be vaxxinared''..thats my problem my friend..for a man made virus( until now they don't tell us that), they promote us vaccines of questionable quality..
    If you're a public health official,  and you are seeing the deaths,  setting the carnage,  do you error on the side that over protects or under?
    a scientist or doctor does not recommend any treatment if he is not sure..
    That is the most foolish thing I've read.  Doctors make judgment calls every single day. Maybe this is your issue.  Do you live in some binary world where the decisions are black and white?  
    ''Doctors make judgment calls every single day''..That is the most foolish thing I've read..
    Ugh.  You think doctors follow some Visio diagram that tells them the path to follow and precisely the treatment plan and medication?  Do you think this is the Soviet Union or something?  Doctors make judgment calls every day about how aggressive to treat an issue, which combinations of medications, to operate or not. 

    You are going from foolish to embarrassingly misinformed.  No wonder you buy into all of this conspiracy bullshit that is so easy to pick apart with basic critical thinking skills. 
    As a fellow poster stated, “it’s very entertaining.” Or words to that effect. For me, it’s taken the place of Comedy Central, seeing how I don’t have cable.



    And indeed this thread has become a joke.  If we want to maintains any semblance of integrity on AMT, threads like this one should be locked and sealed tightly in a chest and buried in the ground... as long as it doesn't leak and pollute the water table.


    I see, so since you don’t like what you see and the opinions of others that don’t follow the typical circle jerk company line, therefore you feel this thread needs to be closed!!  Sounds about right and par for the course….God I love checking in on this place.  

  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,687
    That’s all you’re going to reply to? I was hoping for an ETA on when the vax kills me. 
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,943
    Go Beavers said:
    That’s all you’re going to reply to? I was hoping for an ETA on when the vax kills me. 
    i'm dead. the darg ol vaccine killed me last year.
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  • 23scidoo
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    thank you Pfizer..now i will sleep peacefully..

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  • TJ25487
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    Merkin Baller said:
    Poncier said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    will point out too, the vaccine also reduces the viral load of someone vaxxed who test positive thereby REDUCING transmission... ..
    Will also point out that the vaccine may also reduce your life span thereby REDUCING transmission. 
    Athletes are dropping dead left and right on playing fields and courts. You can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting an athlete dying from the vaccine.



    Come on now… let’s not let Damar Hamlin’s death from the vaccine and replacement with a body double by Big Pharma be for naught… we need to take these unsubstantiated reports more seriously. 
    Damar luckily survived most likely due to quick life saving measures. Others have not been so lucky. 
  • TJ25487
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    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    It's called the VAERS report. Look it up. Also know that is is widely understood to be severely under reported. Not just for Covid but for everything. 
  • Merkin Baller
    Merkin Baller Posts: 12,818
    TJ25487 said:
    Merkin Baller said:
    Poncier said:
    TJ25487 said:
    mickeyrat said:
    will point out too, the vaccine also reduces the viral load of someone vaxxed who test positive thereby REDUCING transmission... ..
    Will also point out that the vaccine may also reduce your life span thereby REDUCING transmission. 
    Athletes are dropping dead left and right on playing fields and courts. You can't swing a dead cat in America without hitting an athlete dying from the vaccine.



    Come on now… let’s not let Damar Hamlin’s death from the vaccine and replacement with a body double by Big Pharma be for naught… we need to take these unsubstantiated reports more seriously. 
    Damar luckily survived most likely due to quick life saving measures. Others have not been so lucky. 

      =)
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,981
    TJ25487 said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    It's called the VAERS report. Look it up. Also know that is is widely understood to be severely under reported. Not just for Covid but for everything. 
    Surely you understand that VAERS is an uncontrolled reporting database.  Every crackpock, moron and hillbilly can report anything they want.  If their herpes flairs up after the vax, it gets reported.  It's not controlled, peer reviewed, nothing.  Using VAERS as a resource is a total joke. It's like using Facebook.  
  • gimmesometruth27
    gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 24,943
    mrussel1 said:
    TJ25487 said:
    static111 said:
    Can someone give me some info about how the tax will shorten your life span as a previous poster brought up.  I would like to see the science that this pronouncement was made on.
    It's called the VAERS report. Look it up. Also know that is is widely understood to be severely under reported. Not just for Covid but for everything. 
    Surely you understand that VAERS is an uncontrolled reporting database.  Every crackpock, moron and hillbilly can report anything they want.  If their herpes flairs up after the vax, it gets reported.  It's not controlled, peer reviewed, nothing.  Using VAERS as a resource is a total joke. It's like using Facebook.  
    are yall saying facebook isn't a source?

    lol
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