Viruses / Vaccines 2

23scidoo

lastexitlondon said:

Can't fucking wait

I hope you are in lockdown already..lol..

23scidoo

https://www.forbes.com/sites/ariannajohnson/2024/02/19/covid-vaccines-linked-to-small-increase-in-heart-and-brain-disorders-study-finds-but-risk-from-infection-is-far-higher/

23scidoo

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

lastexitlondon

23scidoo said:

lastexitlondon said:

Can't fucking wait

I hope you are in lockdown already..lol..

I live like that anyway

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

Merkin Baller

Meanwhile measles is making a comeback. 

Great job, everyone. 

mrussel1

Merkin Baller said:

Meanwhile measles is making a comeback. 

Great job, everyone. 

Right, and they'll blame it on immigrants when in fact if you are up to date on MMR, you can be around someone with Measles.  Thanks anti-vaxxers.  Morons.  

mrussel1

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

brianlux

I gotta tell you folks, I'm suspicious that my forever-autoimmune disease may have been triggered by the last COVID vaccination, and as much as I'm HUGELY in favor of more and better testing and research, I still think vaccinations are a good thing for the majority.  So just be good to each other because, shit, you never know what can happen to you either with or without the vaccinations.

Merkin Baller

I’m so sorry, Brian.. you’re not the first person I knew who had a vaccine trigger something in their autoimmune system. Theirs was temporary… I hope somehow yours turns out to be too (even though you already said that doesn’t appear to be the case). 

brianlux

Merkin Baller said:

I’m so sorry, Brian.. you’re not the first person I knew who had a vaccine trigger something in their autoimmune system. Theirs was temporary… I hope somehow yours turns out to be too (even though you already said that doesn’t appear to be the case). 

Thanks so much for the kind word.  I'm told what I have is very likely life-long, but also that there is hope to keep it under control.  I'm doing my yoga routine every day, watching the diet, upping my water intake.  Doing my best! 

Thanks again! 

lastexitlondon

You are a good man Brian. I have so much respect for you my friend.

brianlux

lastexitlondon said:

You are a good man Brian. I have so much respect for you my friend.

You as well, my friend!

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

HughFreakingDillon

I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 

mrussel1

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

mrussel1

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 

That's a good analogy.

mickeyrat

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

which is EXACTLY what the fucking headline says.

reading is fundamental.

23scidoo

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 

It's the second time you give the seat belt example.. really??..

23scidoo

mrussel1 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 

That's a good analogy.

Really really good..are you serious too??

23scidoo

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

mrussel1

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

Did I forget?  No.  In fact, this is the quote from the CDC website, last updated in Sept 2020 which is BEFORE the COVID vaccine was released.  

Before vaccines are approved by the Food and Drug Administration (FDA), scientists test them extensively to ensure they are effective and safe. Vaccines are the best defense we have against infectious diseases, but no vaccine is actually 100% safe or effective for everyone because each person’s body reacts to vaccines differently

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/ensuringsafety/history/index.html

benjs

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

So go live in a bubble where your risk is zero. You also won't be able to access resources in your hermetically sealed cage and will die. Will that then be the bubble's fault? 

Go Beavers

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

And you’re equally sympathetic to people who had family members die because they refused the vaccine after being told
lies about it and that they’ll do just fine popping Ivermectin and vitamin D. 

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

politicians may have said that. do you listen to politicians for your health advice?

HughFreakingDillon

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

I'd be devastated. my dad had a heart attack in spring of 2022. it was literally right after a bout of covid. vaxxed? yep. impossible to know which. But highly, HIGHLY likely it was covid or just as likely, just the fact that he's 76 and heart issues run in our family. 

we couldn't go see him as he was still testing positive even though his symptoms had subsided way earlier. he had many complications as a result of this heart attack. he lived and he's fine, but it fucking sucked. he was in there alone for over 2 weeks. my mother has mobility issues and he couldn't be there to help her. 

why would I say any of that to the families? do I say "told ya so" to the families of anti vaxxers who are now dead and begged for the vaccine when it was too late? of course not. I'm not a fucking asshole. 

there have been instances where seatbelts have TAKEN lives. (being trapped in a burning car, for instance-my wife knew a couple who burned alive after a car accident; the seatbelt latches melted and they couldn't get out, leaving two children orphaned). should we still say "FUCK SEATBELTS"? OR WE WERE LIED TO? THEY ALL TOLD US SEAT BELTS SAVED LIVES!!! THESE SEAT BELTS CAUSED THEIR DEATHS! FUCK ALL SEATBELTS!!! 

no, cause that would be incredibly stupid and irresponsible. but you'd be calling for the the public hanging of the guy who invented seat belts. 

would I ever say "man, too bad your mom was wearing her seat belt, eh?". no, again, cuz I'm not a fucking asshole. 

It's the second time you give the seat belt example.. really??..

and what was your response to the first one? haha

Merkin Baller

I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly™ - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 

23scidoo

Go Beavers said:

23scidoo said:

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

we don't have to. it's literally in the link you shared. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Did you really not even read what you posted as a link?  Dude.  Come on.  As HFD points out, it literally says it in the article. 

mrussel1 said:

23scidoo said:

And I'm waiting for your comment, "yes but the danger from COVID is bigger"..

Let's make it super easy for you, since reading can be challenging:

Covid vaccines are meant to prevent severe infection, and studies have indicated Moderna, Pfizer-BioNTech and AstraZeneca’s vaccines are effective at preventing severe illnesses, hospitalizations and death. Meanwhile, the chances of having a neurological event after a Covid infection were up to 617-fold higher than following COVID vaccination, which suggests “the benefits of vaccination substantially outweigh the risks,” according to the Vaccine study researchers.

let's say this to the families who believe the lies and are now grieving..can you??..I wonder what you would say if one of yours were in that position.. 

You post an article and say "aha!".  But evidently you don't read the article for comprehension, and when the article states what we've saying here for the past few years, you say the article is lying.  WTF man.  Get it straight. 

100 safe and effective.. that was the lie.. you forget it already?

And you’re equally sympathetic to people who had family members die because they refused the vaccine after being told
lies about it and that they’ll do just fine popping Ivermectin and vitamin D. 

To refuse the vaccine was a choice..to get it, it wasn't..

23scidoo

Merkin Baller said:

I'm still waiting for 103 more names of footballers who Died Suddenly™ - by my count we've only got 5 out of 108. 

Google..