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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,868
    We had the same guy twice 
    Tom lockyer
    brixton 93
    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
    paris 06
    wembley 07
    dusseldorf 07
    nijmegen 07

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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    edited March 25
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 
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    ZodZod Posts: 10,099
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 

    And most of them were before covid, so obviously the vaccine reduces the chances of heart attack while playing professional hockey :)
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    Zod said:
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 

    And most of them were before covid, so obviously the vaccine reduces the chances of heart attack while playing professional hockey :)
    Len Bias & Reggie Lewis too… no one even thought to ask which covid booster they got. Really makes you think… 
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,487
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..

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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,220
    Zod said:
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 

    And most of them were before covid, so obviously the vaccine reduces the chances of heart attack while playing professional hockey :)
    Len Bias & Reggie Lewis too… no one even thought to ask which covid booster they got. Really makes you think… 
    I was at the last game Reggie Lewis played but didn't see him collapse. Arrived late (in the 2nd Q) due to my buddy being late getting out of work. We got there and after a while noticed Lewis wasn't playing, nobody around us mentioned anything as to why, heard about it on radio on the way home. 
    The guy should have listened to the initial team of doctors and retired (and obviously should have refused the Covid vaccine), what a sin.
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,684
    Zod said:
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 

    And most of them were before covid, so obviously the vaccine reduces the chances of heart attack while playing professional hockey :)
    Len Bias & Reggie Lewis too… no one even thought to ask which covid booster they got. Really makes you think… 

    Len got the Crack booster available at that time.
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    edited March 26
    Poncier said:
    Zod said:
    4 NHL players had heart attacks mid game or mid practice.

    Hard to believe. 

    And most of them were before covid, so obviously the vaccine reduces the chances of heart attack while playing professional hockey :)
    Len Bias & Reggie Lewis too… no one even thought to ask which covid booster they got. Really makes you think… 
    I was at the last game Reggie Lewis played but didn't see him collapse. Arrived late (in the 2nd Q) due to my buddy being late getting out of work. We got there and after a while noticed Lewis wasn't playing, nobody around us mentioned anything as to why, heard about it on radio on the way home. 
    The guy should have listened to the initial team of doctors and retired (and obviously should have refused the Covid vaccine), what a sin.
    It really was sad. Len Bias too. Big Pharma WANTS you to think it was the metric ton of cocaine he did that caused his heart failure, but we all know better now, don't we? 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,625
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..
    Schism is a great song...
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    23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 18,487
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    lol
    What, so you can make a claim based on an anecdote but no one else can?
    Memes too... the claim about 108 footballers was based on a meme. 

    Some people will believe anything. 
    Three professional football players collapse on the pitch mid-game, live on TV, in the space of a week..

    In 2007 no less…  =)  =)  =)  =)
    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2007/aug/30/newsstory.sport7


    Sorry, unfortunately it was 4..

    That's only 1, not 4. 

    #math
    ''I've done the math enough to know
    The dangers of our second guessing''..
    Schism is a great song...
    It is..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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    Evel KEvel K Posts: 516

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 
    Things were different then
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    Evel K said:

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 

    Thanks for kind thought, K.
    About 20 years ago, I volunteered at the Marshall Health Library in Placerville, CA.  One of the things we promoted strongly there was the notion of "Complimentary Therapies", the idea being to take the best from traditional as well as alternative medicine.  As much as it is impressive that these vaccines were created in amazingly short time, I question how well they have been test.  I'd also have like to see a more open-mined outlook at the wider scope which would include alternative therapies as well (and, of course, I'm not talking about bogus nonsense such as drinking bleach and such). 
    I think many people have had good protection from vaccines, but there are people who have not fared so well.  I have not been able to prove (so will not claim) that the vaccines affected my health negatively, but since getting them, I now have a life-long autoimmune disease that that has given me ulcerated oral lichen planus (I have sores in my mouth all the time that make eating difficult), as well as lichen planus on my legs, arms, chest, and back (and it ain't pretty).  Add to that frequent periods of low energy and fatigue, a sore throat that comes and goes in a matter of hours, feeling feverish for a few to several hours but when I take my temp it registers below normal, and recurring pain in my abdomen.  All undiagnosed by various doctors.  They haven't a clue.  Was this all cause by the vaccines?  I cannot say.  But that's when it all started.
    So yeah, sadly, we live in a rather black and white, all-or-nothing world. 
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,937
    edited March 29
    Evel K said:

    https://news.bloomberglaw.com/health-law-and-business/texas-doctors-force-fda-to-remove-covid-19-posts-in-settlement
    I took a long break from this post because, at times, it definitely felt like it was way more than 5-5-5 against 1. Sorry to read about @brianlux and I hope you're doing better. My main point was and is today that there was a concerted effort to suppress multiple treatments of Covid in favor of vaccines. The United States alone had secured half a billion shots  before they were approved. The US government was all-in on vaccines. If treatments are known to be working the amount of people getting vaccinated decreases. 
    Why don’t you share the first sentence in the article that you’re claiming is blowing the whistle on suppressing facts?

    “ The FDA agreed to delete certain social media posts and webpage updates that urged people to stop using ivermectin to treat or prevent Covid-19.”

    Edit: shame on any credible news site that gives a clickbait title like this one that trolls can easily use to spread garbage claims
    Post edited by benjs on
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    EV
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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,684
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,220
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    This weekend we rock Portland
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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,937
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    That's some incontrovertible evidence right there. We should really promote mass suicide as an alternative too.
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    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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    lastexitlondonlastexitlondon Posts: 11,868
    Many medicines work on multiple things and by mistake like Viagra. Not made for hard ons
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    astoria 06
    albany 06
    hartford 06
    reading 06
    barcelona 06
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    A lot of people were pushing bullshit treatments for mysterious reasons... hydroxychloroquine, ivermectin, drinking bleach, shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )... If people want to treat their covid by drinking bleach or ingesting a parasite killer or sticking mag-lights up their butts, have at it. 

    With that being said, none of those things had proven effective against covid, so I can't really fault the government for advising against those treatments considering how contagious the virus was. 
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,625
    benjs said:
    Poncier said:
    mickeyrat said:
    please explain to me how an anti-parasitic is effective against a virus
    If it kills the host, it kills the virus.
    Dead patient = no more Covid.
    That's some incontrovertible evidence right there. We should really promote mass suicide as an alternative too.
    No one appreciates your negativity.  Poncier is thinking outside the box, spitballing.  It's healthy and the same thing Trump did when suggesting lasers and bleach during his daily briefings.  If that type of thinking is good enough for 45, it's good enough for me.  
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,220
     shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )..
    I thought that was to find the gerbil, not cure Covid.
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    mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 28,625
    Poncier said:
     shining flashlights up your ass (those last two came from the president who was in office at the time btw :D )..
    I thought that was to find the gerbil, not cure Covid.
    Why would you want to remove it?
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    Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 10,475
    Lemmiwinks!!!!!
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    PoncierPoncier Posts: 16,220

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    mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,684
    my oh my what the kids these days are learning.....
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    another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    Hey look, I love you guys, but this thread is so far down and I have a hard enough time looking up these days.  Please remind me to stay the fuck off this one, thanks.
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    edited March 29
    Sorry for being to quick too anger guys.  Didn't mean to shame or blame. 
    Stay well, y'all.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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    benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 8,937
    Poncier said:

    Certainly wasn't the reference I was expecting in the Covid thread, lol! What a classic.
    '05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2

    EV
    Toronto Film Festival 9/11/2007, '08 - Toronto 1 & 2, '09 - Albany 1, '11 - Chicago 1
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    brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,675
    edited March 31
    Get a load of this Bozo:

    Yellowstone Star Claims He Was Kicked Off Plane For Refusing To Sit Next To Masked Passenger

    'Yellowstone' Star Claims He Was Kicked Off Plane For Refusing To Sit Next To Masked Passenger

    Anti-vax actor Forrie J. Smith took to Instagram to claim he was kicked off a flight because he didn't 'feel comfortable' sitting next to someone who was wearing a mask, while admitting that he'd 'been drinking.'




    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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