Viruses / Vaccines 2
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So no one died? Did we get that wrong?23scidoo said:
it goes on because some people can't admit they've been fooled..i get it, it's hard to fathom..mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.0 -
I’m still waiting for how many is too many.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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6th booster is too many.Halifax2TheMax said:I’m still waiting for how many is too many.0 -
Who wouldn't politicize it? This makes him look like a champion:mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.0 -
Evidently, most from this thread will never get to post pandemic.HughFreakingDillon said:
are we really post pandemic, though? a lot of researchers and medical professionals disagree with that assessment.mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.0 -
Some from Long Island moved after covid vaccine mandates were imposed in universities and 15 month long mask mandates in schools. Of course, taxes, weather, etc are top of that list.Gern Blansten said:
I just can't believe that you think people moved to FL because of masks. People move to FL for many reasons...some people don't like it and move back. I've seen that a lot with retirees.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.Post edited by AW124797 on0 -
I think "most in this thread" will get to post pandemic when we actually get to post pandemic.AW124797 said:
Evidently, most from this thread will never get to post pandemic.HughFreakingDillon said:
are we really post pandemic, though? a lot of researchers and medical professionals disagree with that assessment.mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
Only to the easily influenced.AW124797 said:
Who wouldn't politicize it? This makes him look like a champion:mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.0 -
I guess 21 flu shots is waaaay too many then?AW124797 said:
6th booster is too many.Halifax2TheMax said:I’m still waiting for how many is too many.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR; 05/03/2025, New Orleans, LA;
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The flu shot is not an mrna.
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I consider us post pandemic. Whether every scientist or citizen believes it, I think it's clear that the world has moved on. People fly without masks, go to events, eat in restaurants, etc. If the definition that there are no deaths or cases, then we'll never be post pandemic. Further, we are still in the Influenza pandemic, 105 years later. I don't think COVID will ever be eradicated in full.HughFreakingDillon said:
I think "most in this thread" will get to post pandemic when we actually get to post pandemic.AW124797 said:
Evidently, most from this thread will never get to post pandemic.HughFreakingDillon said:
are we really post pandemic, though? a lot of researchers and medical professionals disagree with that assessment.mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.
Now maybe China is endemic right now, as they have a breakout.0 -
The problem is mrna is a code and the body keeps producing the spike protien on all cells even where its not needed and thats where it causes an issue
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Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity is by far the best thing. Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these boosters is beyond me.
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Natural immunity is not forevermore, and if you are old or have certain conditions, then it makes perfect sense to get boosters every year. The same thing for annual Influenza.lastexitlondon said:Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity is by far the best thing. Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these boosters is beyond me.0 -
Its not the same as flu. This is an mrna genetically modified vaccine. The flu vaccine not. Omicron changed the pandemic completely.mrussel1 said:
Natural immunity is not forevermore, and if you are old or have certain conditions, then it makes perfect sense to get boosters every year. The same thing for annual Influenza.lastexitlondon said:Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity is by far the best thing. Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these boosters is beyond me.
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Also i understand elderly but they want to give this to kids at zero risk of covid. 6 months old they are trying. Why?
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the world moving on is the not the benchmark used whether a sickness has become endemic or not yet. the flu isn't pandemic still; it's endemic, which is defined as spreading at an acceptable/expected level of transmission.mrussel1 said:
I consider us post pandemic. Whether every scientist or citizen believes it, I think it's clear that the world has moved on. People fly without masks, go to events, eat in restaurants, etc. If the definition that there are no deaths or cases, then we'll never be post pandemic. Further, we are still in the Influenza pandemic, 105 years later. I don't think COVID will ever be eradicated in full.HughFreakingDillon said:
I think "most in this thread" will get to post pandemic when we actually get to post pandemic.AW124797 said:
Evidently, most from this thread will never get to post pandemic.HughFreakingDillon said:
are we really post pandemic, though? a lot of researchers and medical professionals disagree with that assessment.mrussel1 said:
This is because of your media consumption. Fox news and the echo chamber positioned it as such, and took pains to contrast NY from FL. If a state like Virginia didn't fit that narrative, then why would they discuss it? Yes, a bunch of people moved to Florida, but did they all do that to avoid masks? Doubtful. There are other reasons such as early retirement (you can easily find data that shows how many people left the workforce in the pandemic and did not return), no state taxes, the ability to WFH so why not, etc.AW124797 said:Wasn’t FL first state to drop covid restrictions and well over one million people moved there since March 2020? It definitely felt like a beacon of freedom in my case. I don't wish zoom schooling on any parent.
What I don't really understand is why this debate continues? We are post pandemic and it's devolved to something similar to Influenza. And if you study the Influenza pandemic of 1918, you can see the clear correlations of the two situations.
Now maybe China is endemic right now, as they have a breakout.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 -
What the difference as it relates to immunity after an infection or after a vaccine?lastexitlondon said:
Its not the same as flu. This is an mrna genetically modified vaccine. The flu vaccine not. Omicron changed the pandemic completely.mrussel1 said:
Natural immunity is not forevermore, and if you are old or have certain conditions, then it makes perfect sense to get boosters every year. The same thing for annual Influenza.lastexitlondon said:Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity is by far the best thing. Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these boosters is beyond me.
I'm not arguing that the vaccine is the same, but you asked why get the booster? And whether it's MRNA or not, the reason for an at risk person to get a vaccine is for the same reason as you get an annual Influenza shot.0 -
Covid is endemic now. Here in uk 100% it is nobody cares
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At risk person. All these kids and young people are at zero risk from omicron . Are all of the people on here at risk? Maybe a few have underlying conditions but people are giving it to their kids.mrussel1 said:
What the difference as it relates to immunity after an infection or after a vaccine?lastexitlondon said:
Its not the same as flu. This is an mrna genetically modified vaccine. The flu vaccine not. Omicron changed the pandemic completely.mrussel1 said:
Natural immunity is not forevermore, and if you are old or have certain conditions, then it makes perfect sense to get boosters every year. The same thing for annual Influenza.lastexitlondon said:Most people here have had covid. Natural immunity is by far the best thing. Why anyone who has had covid would keep getting these boosters is beyond me.
I'm not arguing that the vaccine is the same, but you asked why get the booster? And whether it's MRNA or not, the reason for an at risk person to get a vaccine is for the same reason as you get an annual Influenza shot.
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0
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