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  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,175
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    How many died in the preeding two years (march 2019-2021)? What about the two years before that?



    Or, out of how many athletes, ages, etc.? Exhausting. There’s senior olympians and 100 year old marathon runners now. But the jab got them!
    Either the guy doesn't know how to debate genuinely, or he genuinely doesn't know how to debate. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,430
    Former 35 year old NFL QB drowned the other day. It was the jab.
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,856
    Former 35 year old NFL QB drowned the other day. It was the jab.
    The jab is known to attract Portuguese Man of Wars, which sting and paralyzes you.  When you are magnetized, it makes you a target for them.  
  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,574
    Former 35 year old NFL QB drowned the other day. It was the jab.
    of course. it broke the skin and he deflated. like patriots footballs.

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 39,430
    mickeyrat said:
    Former 35 year old NFL QB drowned the other day. It was the jab.
    of course. it broke the skin and he deflated. like patriots footballs.

    Another conspiracy theory.
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  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,609
    mickeyrat said:
    Former 35 year old NFL QB drowned the other day. It was the jab.
    of course. it broke the skin and he deflated. like patriots footballs.

    Another conspiracy theory.
     :D 
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    On the other news, 36% increase od deathes in USA and Britain the last 3 years..
    Source? 
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    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
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    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    How many died in the preeding two years (march 2019-2021)? What about the two years before that?



    Or, out of how many athletes, ages, etc.? Exhausting. There’s senior olympians and 100 year old marathon runners now. But the jab got them!
    Active athletes..someone here wonder about that..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    benjs said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    How many died in the preeding two years (march 2019-2021)? What about the two years before that?



    Or, out of how many athletes, ages, etc.? Exhausting. There’s senior olympians and 100 year old marathon runners now. But the jab got them!
    Either the guy doesn't know how to debate genuinely, or he genuinely doesn't know how to debate. 
    Wow!!..a debate lesson here??..i'm open as Ediie said..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,175
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    On the other news, 36% increase od deathes in USA and Britain the last 3 years..
    Source? 
    BlackRock, Inc.
    No source, got it, thanks. 
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  • mrussel1mrussel1 Posts: 29,856
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
  • benjsbenjs Toronto, ON Posts: 9,175
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    Are you sure you weren't given any mystery jabs in high school? This could run deeper than any of us could've possibly imagined...
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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,609
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    Yup... it's the same arguments over & over again.
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,609
    Former NFL QB Ryan Mallett died this week at age 35. 

    They say he drowned, but how do we know he didn’t drown because of the vaccine? 🤔
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • josevolutionjosevolution Posts: 30,002
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Damn dude your blaming the vaccine for this guys death 😂😂😂 but not the testosterone replacement procedure! What ever your smoking you should stop 
    jesus greets me looks just like me ....
  • Merkin BallerMerkin Baller Posts: 11,609

    No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

    “There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

    More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

    Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

    The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

    COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

    The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

    For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

    Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

    “The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

  • nicknyr15nicknyr15 Posts: 8,587

    No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

    “There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

    More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

    Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

    The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

    COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

    The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

    For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

    Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

    “The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

    I wonder how long these conversations will go on. Was everything handled perfectly during the pandemic? No. Of course not. But holy shit. It’s amazing this thread is still going.  
  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,379
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Maybe because you didn’t seek this information out prior to covid? 
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 37,379
    nicknyr15 said:

    No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

    “There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

    More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

    Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

    The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

    COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

    The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

    For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

    Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

    “The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

    I wonder how long these conversations will go on. Was everything handled perfectly during the pandemic? No. Of course not. But holy shit. It’s amazing this thread is still going.  
    Conspiracy theories are like an epidemic. 
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat Posts: 39,574
    nicknyr15 said:

    No Surge in Athlete Deaths, Contrary to Widespread Anti-Vaccine Claims

    “There is no uptick in sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes due to COVID-19 or from COVID vaccinations. This is total misinformation,” Dr. Jonathan Drezner told us in an emailed statement. Drezner is the director of the UW Medicine Center for Sports Cardiology at the University of Washington, editor in chief of the British Journal of Sports Medicine, and a team physician for the Seattle Seahawks, the OL Reign soccer team and the University of Washington Huskies.

    More than 2,000 children and adolescents in the U.S. die from sudden cardiac arrest every year, according to the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia, and two-thirds of the deaths “occur during exercise or activity.” Among young athletes, sudden cardiac arrest is the leading cause of death, according to CHOP.

    Drezner said his center monitors “all cases and all causes” of sudden cardiac arrest or death in athletes by working with the National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research at the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill. “[T]here is no change,” he said.

    The National Center for Catastrophic Sport Injury Research catalogs injuries for high school and college athletes, and its most recent report covers the 2020-21 school year. It shows that 21 athletes died while playing their sport that year.

    COVID-19 vaccines were available to everyone 16 and over in the U.S. by April 2021, so the overlap between the period covered by the report and the period in which vaccines were widely available to young people was relatively small. We reached out to the center to find out if the data collected for the 2021-2022 school year has indicated any increase in deaths.

    The center’s director, Dr. Kristen Kucera, told us that so far, “the numbers are the same and it’s actually fewer than we captured in 2018-19.”

    For context, the center reported 19 deaths in 2019-20, 25 deaths in 2018-19 and 21 deathsin 2017-18.

    Similarly, Dr. Robert Cantu, the center’s medical director, told us in an emailed statement that he’s seen no increase in athlete deaths and called the claims “misinformation.”

    “The statistics don’t bear out that there’s been an increase in events among athletes,” Dr. Curt Daniels, professor of cardiovascular medicine and director of the sports cardiology program at The Ohio State University College of Medicine, told us in a phone interview.”

    https://www.factcheck.org/2023/01/scicheck-no-surge-in-athlete-deaths-contrary-to-widespread-anti-vaccine-claims/

    I wonder how long these conversations will go on. Was everything handled perfectly during the pandemic? No. Of course not. But holy shit. It’s amazing this thread is still going.  

    1. Kat created a virus/vaccine thread. not specific to covid but born from it.

    2. unless there's actual news i.e booster schedule, new varient, etc its who that keeps reviving this?





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  • cblock4lifecblock4life Posts: 1,747
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Did you ever think that it seems like more to you because you’re looking for the proof that supports your theories?  

    MB took the time to post the facts so you should thank him for putting your concerns to rest.  If anything athletes are stronger and their cardiac patterns are followed closer than ever. 

    And by Groundhog Day I’m referring to the anti vaccine propaganda posted.  

    I am 100% in favor of ALL vaccines.  
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Damn dude your blaming the vaccine for this guys death 😂😂😂 but not the testosterone replacement procedure! What ever your smoking you should stop 
    I didn't blame the vaccine, you are watching what you want..he is just another one..i do my research for him and the info are mixed..
    but you know its testosterone replacement procedure..very nice again..
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  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Maybe because you didn’t seek this information out prior to covid? 
    It was you who wondering about this some months ago..very nice again..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Did you ever think that it seems like more to you because you’re looking for the proof that supports your theories?  

    MB took the time to post the facts so you should thank him for putting your concerns to rest.  If anything athletes are stronger and their cardiac patterns are followed closer than ever. 

    And by Groundhog Day I’m referring to the anti vaccine propaganda posted.  

    I am 100% in favor of ALL vaccines.  
    For a MILLION time..different thing anti vaccine and different thing anti lier..please, grow up..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    23scidoo said:
    mrussel1 said:
    23scidoo said:
    benjs said:
    23scidoo said:
    769 atheletes have died between March 2021-March 2022..
    There’s a pretty famous expression in English… “you can’t compare one thing”. What do I care about 769 athletes dying in a year if I don’t know what’s typical? 
    The last one..

    https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/life-style/health-fitness/health-news/basketball-player-scar-cabrera-adames-who-had-blamed-covid-vaccine-for-rare-heart-condition-dies-of-heart-attack/photostory/101270988.cms?from=mdr
    This is only proof that someone died of a MI. 
    I have myocarditis too. I was diagnosed at about 23 and gave had to treat it since then.  I also played college baseball,  along with wrestling all through high school.  So this article proves nothing other than he was unfortunate..  
    we often hear about young athletes (unfortunately) suffering from heart conditions during activities, even before covid.  

    We should concentrate on getting high school students the proper pre-physicals to help avoid cardiac issues along with baseline heart exams.  Yes, lots of money but if possible should be implemented. 

    These issues have gone on for years with NO connection to covid 19. 

    Feels like “Groundhog Day” around here sometimes.  
    “Groundhog Day”for sure..but let me ask you really..did we hear about athletes died so offen before covid??..i can't remember that..

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/22892548/jo-lindner-death-updates-bodybuilding-joesthetics-live/
    Did you ever think that it seems like more to you because you’re looking for the proof that supports your theories?  

    MB took the time to post the facts so you should thank him for putting your concerns to rest.  If anything athletes are stronger and their cardiac patterns are followed closer than ever. 

    And by Groundhog Day I’m referring to the anti vaccine propaganda posted.  

    I am 100% in favor of ALL vaccines.  
    And those who killed the kids in Africa by Pfizer also i guess??..
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
  • 23scidoo23scidoo Thessaloniki,Greece Posts: 19,340
    Athens 2006. Dusseldorf 2007. Berlin 2009. Venice 2010. Amsterdam 1 2012. Amsterdam 1+2 2014. Buenos Aires 2015.
    Prague Krakow Berlin 2018. Berlin 2022
    EV, Taormina 1+2 2017.

    I wish i was the souvenir you kept your house key on..
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