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  • danofun
    danofun Posts: 1,301
    Fan 2 Fan is the best thing to happen to the ticketing industry in quite some time and PJ should be commended for their efforts. It echoes the words much younger men echoed from Capital Hill nearly 30 years ago. Fans can only hope other artist choose a similar path and demand a similar program. It's true progress and we thank you!

    On the other end of the spectrum, PJ Premium is not the result of scalpers hoarding tickets and driving up the price of second market tickets. PJ Premium is a conscious decision, a collaboration between the artist and the ticket broker. Quality seats variably repriced with the sole intent of maximizing revenue. Some might even call it a side-effect of Green Disease. Nothing but respect for the greatest group of rock band humans this rock has ever known, but what would 1994 Stone say about 2022 PJ Premium?

    "Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster."  - Stone Gossard
  • cp3iverson
    cp3iverson Posts: 8,702
    I don’t know who Eric Church is but I can’t imagine cancelling a big concert to watch two coaches yell at a bunch of kids to play zone.  
  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.

    THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain). 
    ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24

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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    JeBurkhardt said:
    cp3iverson said:
    Even nosebleeds in Denver are $700.   Every ticket is listed as premium now.  Lol
    $795 earlier, $650 the last time I checked. Hopefully they continue to drop. 
    This is TOTALLY FUCKED.
    ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24

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  • drakeheuer14
    drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,619
    Oh boy, it’s a never ending discussion. Read some of these threads.
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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    paper tiger said:
    quarterpast said:


    I’ll keep my 10club seats in the back…
    Those were $1650 for people later in the queue FYI
    THIS IS FUCKED.
    ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24

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  • High Fidelity 2000
    High Fidelity 2000 New Mexico USA Posts: 4,439
    dfishberg said:
    Wow -- that was BS.  $1K dollar per ticket.  Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks.  This is really disappointing if it is the new normal.  I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
    I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing. 
    ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24

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  • BF25394
    BF25394 Posts: 4,935
    High Fidelity 2000 said:
    So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.

    THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain). 
    I'm not denying that anyone else had this experience but I noticed that, with the two shows I bought tickets for today, when I unchecked the PJ Premium box before viewing tickets, the only tickets that subsequently showed up were face value.  I got face value tickets in the same section as the most senior Ten Club seats for both shows.
    I gather speed from you fucking with me.
  • aisleseats
    aisleseats Posts: 1,628
    danofun said:
    Fan 2 Fan is the best thing to happen to the ticketing industry in quite some time and PJ should be commended for their efforts. It echoes the words much younger men echoed from Capital Hill nearly 30 years ago. Fans can only hope other artist choose a similar path and demand a similar program. It's true progress and we thank you!

    On the other end of the spectrum, PJ Premium is not the result of scalpers hoarding tickets and driving up the price of second market tickets. PJ Premium is a conscious decision, a collaboration between the artist and the ticket broker. Quality seats variably repriced with the sole intent of maximizing revenue. Some might even call it a side-effect of Green Disease. Nothing but respect for the greatest group of rock band humans this rock has ever known, but what would 1994 Stone say about 2022 PJ Premium?

    "Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster."  - Stone Gossard
    Exactly. I've always had a great deal of respect for the way PJ has handled 10c tickets and ticket sales in general. And even more so for the way they originally handled tickets for the 2020 tour. F2F and the non-transferable policy eliminates the scalping issue for the most part. So they can't use that as an excuse for Premium. If that were the case, they would just be offered in NY and CO. I wouldn't exactly call them "quality seats" either. The TM description (They give fans fair and safe access to some of the best seats in the house.) is laughable when you've got some of the worst seats in the house listed at 5x original cost.
  • darthvedder
    darthvedder Posts: 2,667
    BF25394 said:
    High Fidelity 2000 said:
    So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.

    THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain). 
    I'm not denying that anyone else had this experience but I noticed that, with the two shows I bought tickets for today, when I unchecked the PJ Premium box before viewing tickets, the only tickets that subsequently showed up were face value.  I got face value tickets in the same section as the most senior Ten Club seats for both shows.
    I think this is where the confusion lies...the tour announcement contradicts itself by saying the Verified Fan will be the only public sale but then saying there will be premium seats available to the public "at a later date." It sounds like people who got in through Verified Fan were presented with both options. What a colossal clusterfuck.
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    cp3iverson said:
    I don’t know who Eric Church is but I can’t imagine cancelling a big concert to watch two coaches yell at a bunch of kids to play zone.  
    Huge country artist 
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    and many, many more
  • jiammm14
    jiammm14 Posts: 43
    JBob87 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard. 
    No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
    The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all. 
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    jiammm14 said:
    JBob87 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard. 
    No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
    The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all. 
    Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA. 

    All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it

    the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing 

    music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend. 


    Marquee 91
    Wetlands 91
    CBGB 91
    Roseland 91
    and many, many more
  • jiammm14
    jiammm14 Posts: 43
    JP218404 said:o
    jiammm14 said:
    JBob87 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard. 
    No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
    The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all. 
    Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA. 

    All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it

    the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing 

    music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend. 


    Well in that case, then by all means , charge $950 for a ticket. following what others did it’s very easy for the bands we love to say, “it isn’t me.” 
    But it’s not theater, nor sports. It’s supposed to be rock and roll, no?!?!?!  They sold out , but it’s ok, everyone else is doing it too…

  • CantKeepmedown
    CantKeepmedown Portland, Maine Posts: 3,119
    JP218404 said:
    JeBurkhardt said:
    JP218404 said:
    This crap could be worst. Look what Eric church just did to his fans

     I don’t care how much of a fan you are of the basketball team. To cancel the concert  because of a game? You committed to the show and now you expect your fans to be ok with it? This is a very bad look for him. I would be pissed if it was a show I had tickets to. 
    You could be this guy. Ooph. But I’m guessing he has the scratch to pull that off. Still would be pissed

    How is this guy actually still cheering for UNC to win? I hate Duke but I hope they get up 30 in the first half and it's never a game at all and Eric Church has a miserable night.
  • JP218404
    JP218404 NJ Posts: 1,412
    jiammm14 said:
    JP218404 said:o
    jiammm14 said:
    JBob87 said:
    JimmyV said:
    JBob87 said:
    Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.

    I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing. 
    Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard. 
    No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
    The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all. 
    Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA. 

    All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it

    the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing 

    music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend. 


    Well in that case, then by all means , charge $950 for a ticket. following what others did it’s very easy for the bands we love to say, “it isn’t me.” 
    But it’s not theater, nor sports. It’s supposed to be rock and roll, no?!?!?!  They sold out , but it’s ok, everyone else is doing it too…

    Not saying it’s right in any way. Just saying it the way all entertainment is now.

    and as far as selling out, they get these promoters to hand over 1/2 - 3/4 of the venue to their fan club for the basic price, stopped the scalping situations by no transfers, F2F, etc. every  band should be doing this.  If the payoff is the premium situation so be it. Oh and those will all drop as all the shows come closer and well and extra tix drops at face. 

    I give the band massive props to doing what they can for us. 
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    Wetlands 91
    CBGB 91
    Roseland 91
    and many, many more
  • mpedone
    mpedone 540xxx - Manchester, NH Posts: 1,961
    JimmyV said:
    I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium! 

    IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
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  • pthomn
    pthomn Posts: 124
    High Fidelity 2000 said:
    dfishberg said:
    Wow -- that was BS.  $1K dollar per ticket.  Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks.  This is really disappointing if it is the new normal.  I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
    I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing. 
    I'm embarrassed to say I got taken for over 1k for one ticket to the Earthlings tour for Beacon. if I waited they were on stub hub for 300 bucks. but TM and Eddie had to get theirs... It was a combo of pandemic, missing out on Fan club seats, not being verified tickets from TM and it was there. the impulse buy of maybe missing out. crazy how it works .
  • WindowPaine
    WindowPaine Chicopee, MA Posts: 538
    bootlegger10 said:
    I heard an interesting thought the other day.  We all seem to accept the better seats for sporting events costing more.  Why would concerts be any different?   If charging more helps keep other tickets lower than so be it.
    all? no. i don't go to sporting events any more because the prices are ridiculous. 'concerts'...i'm all set for the most part. if the venue is bigger than about 1000 people, i'm not really interested. absurd pricing and the fact that if i can't SEE the band up close then i can just watch it on youtube makes me say, nope. 
    plus, the only way to make change is by using/not using your wallet. so nothing changes unless the product isn't selling.

    "nevermind what they're selling, it's what you're buying"...guy piciotto
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  • jiammm14
    jiammm14 Posts: 43
    mpedone said:
    JimmyV said:
    I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium! 

    IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
    Because it looks like what it is. Sorry . 
    I’ve been a believer for years , but it’s not just TM. It’s a business, they’re a part of it, and they are getting theirs too. PJ Platinum. 
    And then the loyal are getting stuck in the back rows  anyway. 
    It’s just ironic that some  of their yesteryear songs looked at the greed and politics with disdain. 

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