“PJ Premium” on Ticketmaster?
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Tomorrow dead and company tour gets announced so interested in seeing what their prices will be this tour. Been sitting in the 300 at citi field and face+fees been $125 for most of their tours.Marquee 91
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pdalowsky said:its hard to argue against anyone saying 'you dont have to buy them'.....but it is still sad that in this day and age its becoming the norm that the poorer segment of society can just fucking do one. Fuck em. If they don't earn well they don't deserve entertaining. I know its not quite as simple as that but still......Two things. First, I get what you're saying, and I've been on that end of things, but at the same time, we're talking about a PJ concert here. As much as we all love the band and seeing them live, we're not talking about food or clothing. I love video games, but I can't walk into a Best Buy and tell them to sell me a PS5 for a hundred bucks because that's all I can afford.Second, while complaining might work (probably more so if you could communicate more directly to the band), the best way to make yourself heard in a situation like this is to vote with your wallet. Basic supply and demand - if we don't buy the Premium tickets for the exorbitant prices, they can't justify selling them at those prices. It probably won't work either, and it means missing out on a great show."I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
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mpedone said:pdalowsky said:its hard to argue against anyone saying 'you dont have to buy them'.....but it is still sad that in this day and age its becoming the norm that the poorer segment of society can just fucking do one. Fuck em. If they don't earn well they don't deserve entertaining. I know its not quite as simple as that but still......Two things. First, I get what you're saying, and I've been on that end of things, but at the same time, we're talking about a PJ concert here. As much as we all love the band and seeing them live, we're not talking about food or clothing. I love video games, but I can't walk into a Best Buy and tell them to sell me a PS5 for a hundred bucks because that's all I can afford.Second, while complaining might work (probably more so if you could communicate more directly to the band), the best way to make yourself heard in a situation like this is to vote with your wallet. Basic supply and demand - if we don't buy the Premium tickets for the exorbitant prices, they can't justify selling them at those prices. It probably won't work either, and it means missing out on a great show.
I use my other love Manchester united to help me here also. I can pay wedge to go see them, on occasion be bored to tears, see them paly with no passion, get a hiding and come home miserable. That never happens with a PJ show. I know I am going to have a blast.
I hear your point on the PS5 also, loud and clear. Although that is a physical object a person can get a lot of enjoyment from, and can be bought anytime after saving up. I think there's a succinct difference.
In the sense a concert ticket isn't 'essential' - correct, its not food or warmth. But it is something I enjoy and benefits me massively mentally. It seems to me that the poorer section of society is getting squeezed out of these events, and yes they are not a matter of life or death - but they are damn straight fucking amazing to be at. So whilst those on low incomes are perhaps able to cover their food and heat and should therefore be ok, is what is happening here to exclude them in any way right?
BTW I don't have the answers to any of this, no solutions, it just irks me a little that that is how life is in the current world. I know capitalism rules, and no doubt i benefit greatly from capitalism and I know how supply and demand works. I studied economics hard as a youngster - so I know the models and how they are driven. Its all crystal clear to me. But it just doesn't square things for me morally.
As a side note I am very close to a an absolute gentleman Tom Pugh - the founder and organiser of Given to Live. I have worked with him on several occasions taking some of the less fortunate people to a live show to give them the gift of live music. I have seen first hand what the experience of a show can do for a person who wouldnt have got to the show without his charity. Its a beautiful thing, and having lived that first hand, I got a sense from watching it all unfold that to that person in that moment - that show meant everything to them, it was their absolute world. It was the best thing they had ever experienced, and that touched me greatly, and opened my eyes somewhat. Something I take for granted could literally mean more than words can express. But yeah, I guess its all just life0 -
pdalowsky said:mpedone said:pdalowsky said:its hard to argue against anyone saying 'you dont have to buy them'.....but it is still sad that in this day and age its becoming the norm that the poorer segment of society can just fucking do one. Fuck em. If they don't earn well they don't deserve entertaining. I know its not quite as simple as that but still......Two things. First, I get what you're saying, and I've been on that end of things, but at the same time, we're talking about a PJ concert here. As much as we all love the band and seeing them live, we're not talking about food or clothing. I love video games, but I can't walk into a Best Buy and tell them to sell me a PS5 for a hundred bucks because that's all I can afford.Second, while complaining might work (probably more so if you could communicate more directly to the band), the best way to make yourself heard in a situation like this is to vote with your wallet. Basic supply and demand - if we don't buy the Premium tickets for the exorbitant prices, they can't justify selling them at those prices. It probably won't work either, and it means missing out on a great show.
I use my other love Manchester united to help me here also. I can pay wedge to go see them, on occasion be bored to tears, see them paly with no passion, get a hiding and come home miserable. That never happens with a PJ show. I know I am going to have a blast.
I hear your point on the PS5 also, loud and clear. Although that is a physical object a person can get a lot of enjoyment from, and can be bought anytime after saving up. I think there's a succinct difference.
In the sense a concert ticket isn't 'essential' - correct, its not food or warmth. But it is something I enjoy and benefits me massively mentally. It seems to me that the poorer section of society is getting squeezed out of these events, and yes they are not a matter of life or death - but they are damn straight fucking amazing to be at. So whilst those on low incomes are perhaps able to cover their food and heat and should therefore be ok, is what is happening here to exclude them in any way right?
BTW I don't have the answers to any of this, no solutions, it just irks me a little that that is how life is in the current world. I know capitalism rules, and no doubt i benefit greatly from capitalism and I know how supply and demand works. I studied economics hard as a youngster - so I know the models and how they are driven. Its all crystal clear to me. But it just doesn't square things for me morally.
As a side note I am very close to a an absolute gentleman Tom Pugh - the founder and organiser of Given to Live. I have worked with him on several occasions taking some of the less fortunate people to a live show to give them the gift of live music. I have seen first hand what the experience of a show can do for a person who wouldnt have got to the show without his charity. Its a beautiful thing, and having lived that first hand, I got a sense from watching it all unfold that to that person in that moment - that show meant everything to them, it was their absolute world. It was the best thing they had ever experienced, and that touched me greatly, and opened my eyes somewhat. Something I take for granted could literally mean more than words can express. But yeah, I guess its all just lifeI honestly cannot argue with any of this. I do think that the only way it changes is for the sales to suffer. If the shows sell out and the arenas are packed, there's no impetus for the business to change its methods. We can try to appeal to the people behind the business, but - and maybe I"m overly cynical - the business wins out.It would be cool if we could do some sort of "group ticket buy" that would pool resources and get tickets to less well-off fans, but I'm not sure how that would work.
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RK50065 said:JP218404 said:JeBurkhardt said:JP218404 said:This crap could be worst. Look what Eric church just did to his fans0
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Was hoping LA2 wouldn't require a code. Oh well."I got memories, I got shit"0
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washed in black said:pjl44 said:tempo_n_groove said:pjl44 said:pistol3 said:smile6680 said:bootlegger10 said:I heard an interesting thought the other day. We all seem to accept the better seats for sporting events costing more. Why would concerts be any different? If charging more helps keep other tickets lower than so be it.0
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jiammm14 said:JBob87 said:JimmyV said:JBob87 said:Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.0 -
RK50065 said:Poncier said:jiammm14 said:JP218404 said:ojiammm14 said:JBob87 said:JimmyV said:JBob87 said:Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it
the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing
music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend.But it’s not theater, nor sports. It’s supposed to be rock and roll, no?!?!?! They sold out , but it’s ok, everyone else is doing it too…
Not everyone is doing this.
Look at Garth Brooks' tour this year. Every ticket is $84 and change with a $7 and change service fee.
EVERY TICKET
No platinum, no "Brooks Premium" (which would mean platinum), no added $20 for the first 4 seats off the aisle, no VIP packages for big bucks that include a T-shirt and a tote bag. None of it.
Pearl Jam could have also done this, but they chose to charge a percentage (and not a particularly small one) of fans extremely high prices under the guise of keeping prices low for others. The real reason is to maximize profit. They should just admit that.
You know the old joke, why does a dog lick his nuts? Because he can.
Why are fans being scammed into premium seats when there will be "face value" tickets available in another onsale? Because they can.ABQ 93, Las Cruces 95, ABQ 98, Bridge School 10/30/99, Lubbock 00, ABQ 00, Denver 03, State College 03, San Diego 03, Vegas 03, PHX 03, D.C. 03, Camden 7/5/03, NYC 7/8/03 + 7/9/03, Vegas 06, San Francisco 7/15/06 + 7/16/06 + 7/18/06, Kansas City 10, [EV:ABQ 11/6/12], Chicago 13, PHX 13, Denver 14--PJ24!, Telluride 16, Chicago 8/20/16, Chicago 8/18/18, Phoenix 22, Denver 22, Vegas 5/16/24
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CantKeepmedown said:pthomn said:High Fidelity 2000 said:dfishberg said:Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.0
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static111 said:I don't know wtf is going on but No way in hell would it be worth it for me to pay PJ premium prices to see my favorite band. I'd wager that most of the 30-80 dollar per ticket PJ shows I've seen in the past would tower over whatever experience people are going to get for 600-5000 dollars on this tour.0
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So, looking at Fresno and Sacto it's apparent that the best reserved tix that used to be for 10 club are mostly now PJ Premium..
The first several rows on floor directly behind the pit, and first rows in the lowers are PJ Premium.
Basically, they've turned 10 club seats into high profit seats. They should just have said "in order to keep costs low for you, we've moved you further back and will let those with more money sit in front of you.
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Fire the marketing genius that came up with "PJ Premium" and fire them today.___________________________________________
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Poncier said:So, looking at Fresno and Sacto it's apparent that the best reserved tix that used to be for 10 club are mostly now PJ Premium..
The first several rows on floor directly behind the pit, and first rows in the lowers are PJ Premium.
Basically, they've turned 10 club seats into high profit seats. They should just have said "in order to keep costs low for you, we've moved you further back and will let those with more money sit in front of you.
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What fans are forgetting is PJ sold a ton of GA and close seats for $150, including fees. The fair market value of those tickets, what most other artists charge would run hundreds to thousands of dollars. Or, they’d be grabbed immediately by the bots. Correct me if I am wrong, but PJ sold every GA pit seat for $150? I’ve never heard if any other act doing that, until someone mentioned Garth earlier.
As someone who has never ever seen a blue dot seat to buy for any PJ show anywhere close to where I live, looks like there are a ton of face value seats in Oakland and other shows. Stinks getting on a plane, but there is a way to see them.Anyone having any hesitation how PJ prices would be without the club, go check out stub hub for MSG. There was one ticket for $700 the other day, and prices climbed to $1000 real fast for uppers and back stage.
If PJ were in it solely for the money, they’d do a residences in Boston, LA, NY, Philly and a few other of the largest cities. And that’d be it. But there are some small market shows out there to be had. Go get them.Post edited by Lerxst1992 on0 -
IDK conversation could be like this:Do you want 5-10% of the venue for 10c tickets with no Premium or 30-40% with Premium no GA but some seats better then 10c.10c bigger then most think and I assume preference is for more 10c people in the building then not regardless of location.Just pure speculation.
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pjl44 said:jiammm14 said:JBob87 said:JimmyV said:JBob87 said:Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.0 -
jiammm14 said:pjl44 said:jiammm14 said:JBob87 said:JimmyV said:JBob87 said:Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.0 -
There was literally a giveaway of 100 FREE tickets to Ed's rescheduled show and that was in LA. Many of these shows are going to see the Platinum tickets whither on the vine and prices will collapse.___________________________________________
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bbiggs said:But to say they've done this unknowingly or to subsidize the cost of 10C tickets for the newly scheduled shows (which as was noted have been pushed back for the "PJ Premium" folks) is a stretch.It's not a "stretch", they came right out and said that's what it was."In order to maintain low ticket prices and fan club accessibility, we will be releasing a limited number of premium tickets to the public at market rate price at a later date."1998: East Troy 2000: East Troy, Rosemont 2003: Champaign 2006: Chicago (UC), Milwaukee 2007: Chicago (Lolla) 2009: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2010: Noblesville 2011: East Troy (PJ20), East Troy (PJ20) 2013: Chicago (WF), Seattle 2014: St. Louis 2016: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2018: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF) 2022: St. Louis 2023: Chicago (UC), Chicago (UC) 2024: Chicago (WF), Chicago (WF)2025: Pittsburgh, Pittsburgh0
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