Fan 2 Fan is the best thing to happen to the ticketing industry in quite some time and PJ should be commended for their efforts. It echoes the words much younger men echoed from Capital Hill nearly 30 years ago. Fans can only hope other artist choose a similar path and demand a similar program. It's true progress and we thank you!
On the other end of the spectrum, PJ Premium is not the result of scalpers hoarding tickets and driving up the price of second market tickets. PJ Premium is a conscious decision, a collaboration between the artist and the ticket broker. Quality seats variably repriced with the sole intent of maximizing revenue. Some might even call it a side-effect of Green Disease. Nothing but respect for the greatest group of rock band humans this rock has ever known, but what would 1994 Stone say about 2022 PJ Premium?
"Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster." - Stone Gossard
So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.
THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain).
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Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing.
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So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.
THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain).
I'm not denying that anyone else had this experience but I noticed that, with the two shows I bought tickets for today, when I unchecked the PJ Premium box before viewing tickets, the only tickets that subsequently showed up were face value. I got face value tickets in the same section as the most senior Ten Club seats for both shows.
Fan 2 Fan is the best thing to happen to the ticketing industry in quite some time and PJ should be commended for their efforts. It echoes the words much younger men echoed from Capital Hill nearly 30 years ago. Fans can only hope other artist choose a similar path and demand a similar program. It's true progress and we thank you!
On the other end of the spectrum, PJ Premium is not the result of scalpers hoarding tickets and driving up the price of second market tickets. PJ Premium is a conscious decision, a collaboration between the artist and the ticket broker. Quality seats variably repriced with the sole intent of maximizing revenue. Some might even call it a side-effect of Green Disease. Nothing but respect for the greatest group of rock band humans this rock has ever known, but what would 1994 Stone say about 2022 PJ Premium?
"Our band, which is determined to keep ticket prices low, will always be in conflict with Ticketmaster." - Stone Gossard
Exactly. I've always had a great deal of respect for the way PJ has handled 10c tickets and ticket sales in general. And even more so for the way they originally handled tickets for the 2020 tour. F2F and the non-transferable policy eliminates the scalping issue for the most part. So they can't use that as an excuse for Premium. If that were the case, they would just be offered in NY and CO. I wouldn't exactly call them "quality seats" either. The TM description (They give fans fair and safe access to some of the best seats in the house.) is laughable when you've got some of the worst seats in the house listed at 5x original cost.
So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.
THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain).
I'm not denying that anyone else had this experience but I noticed that, with the two shows I bought tickets for today, when I unchecked the PJ Premium box before viewing tickets, the only tickets that subsequently showed up were face value. I got face value tickets in the same section as the most senior Ten Club seats for both shows.
I think this is where the confusion lies...the tour announcement contradicts itself by saying the Verified Fan will be the only public sale but then saying there will be premium seats available to the public "at a later date." It sounds like people who got in through Verified Fan were presented with both options. What a colossal clusterfuck.
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard.
No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all.
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard.
No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all.
Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA.
All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it
the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing
music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend.
Marquee 91 Wetlands 91 CBGB 91 Roseland 91 and many, many more
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard.
No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all.
Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA.
All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it
the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing
music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend.
Well in that case, then by all means , charge $950 for a ticket. following what others did it’s very easy for the bands we love to say, “it isn’t me.”
But it’s not theater, nor sports. It’s supposed to be rock and roll, no?!?!?! They sold out , but it’s ok, everyone else is doing it too…
This crap could be worst. Look what Eric church just did to his fans
I don’t care how much of a fan you are of the basketball team. To cancel the concert because of a game? You committed to the show and now you expect your fans to be ok with it? This is a very bad look for him. I would be pissed if it was a show I had tickets to.
You could be this guy. Ooph. But I’m guessing he has the scratch to pull that off. Still would be pissed
How is this guy actually still cheering for UNC to win? I hate Duke but I hope they get up 30 in the first half and it's never a game at all and Eric Church has a miserable night.
Man if this is the new normal for 10c, pretty disappointing...long long time members in the last row of seats, most 10c members in the back of the 200s...and tickets in the 100s for almost a grand.
I know it's TM and not the band but this is really demoralizing.
Doesn't happen without the band's approval, and TM certainly couldn't call them PJ Premium if PJ wasn't willing and onboard.
No doubt...not absolving the band of all blame here, but just pointing out that there is almost no way around this for TM/Livenation venues these days. Every show I have gone to has had this in place. Really sucks that it has invaded PJ now too. And it's the cherry on top that it is coming at the expense of 10c.
The pain of evolution baby. Corporate greed, pointing fingers…the little guys pay. Concerts were never priced for exclusive elite, but that’s how it is now. Most definitely signed sealed and delivered by all.
Two places to really blame for the state of ticket pricing: Broadway and the NBA.
All sports and concerts followed what Broadway has done with pricing. It’s an evening out that people may do once or twice a year so willing to pay for it
the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing
music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend.
Well in that case, then by all means , charge $950 for a ticket. following what others did it’s very easy for the bands we love to say, “it isn’t me.”
But it’s not theater, nor sports. It’s supposed to be rock and roll, no?!?!?! They sold out , but it’s ok, everyone else is doing it too…
Not saying it’s right in any way. Just saying it the way all entertainment is now.
and as far as selling out, they get these promoters to hand over 1/2 - 3/4 of the venue to their fan club for the basic price, stopped the scalping situations by no transfers, F2F, etc. every band should be doing this. If the payoff is the premium situation so be it. Oh and those will all drop as all the shows come closer and well and extra tix drops at face.
I give the band massive props to doing what they can for us.
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I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing.
I'm embarrassed to say I got taken for over 1k for one ticket to the Earthlings tour for Beacon. if I waited they were on stub hub for 300 bucks. but TM and Eddie had to get theirs... It was a combo of pandemic, missing out on Fan club seats, not being verified tickets from TM and it was there. the impulse buy of maybe missing out. crazy how it works .
I heard an interesting thought the other day. We all seem to accept the better seats for sporting events costing more. Why would concerts be any different? If charging more helps keep other tickets lower than so be it.
all? no. i don't go to sporting events any more because the prices are ridiculous. 'concerts'...i'm all set for the most part. if the venue is bigger than about 1000 people, i'm not really interested. absurd pricing and the fact that if i can't SEE the band up close then i can just watch it on youtube makes me say, nope. plus, the only way to make change is by using/not using your wallet. so nothing changes unless the product isn't selling.
"nevermind what they're selling, it's what you're buying"...guy piciotto
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
Because it looks like what it is. Sorry .
I’ve been a believer for years , but it’s not just TM. It’s a business, they’re a part of it, and they are getting theirs too. PJ Platinum.
And then the loyal are getting stuck in the back rows anyway.
It’s just ironic that some of their yesteryear songs looked at the greed and politics with disdain.
Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing.
I'm embarrassed to say I got taken for over 1k for one ticket to the Earthlings tour for Beacon. if I waited they were on stub hub for 300 bucks. but TM and Eddie had to get theirs... It was a combo of pandemic, missing out on Fan club seats, not being verified tickets from TM and it was there. the impulse buy of maybe missing out. crazy how it works .
This is my biggest issue with these types of dynamically priced tickets aside from the price of course. It plays with fans emotions of getting shut out and the need to buy and secure right away. Sure we are all adults and make these decisions on our own but they do a countdown and live map with dwindling number of seats for a reason. We see the seats disappearing and do not want to miss out and make bad decisions under the gun.
Some people are ok getting secured seats for a premium price on the day of the sale. Great for them. I feel for those that are maxing their cards and paying for it months later financially.
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
Wouldn’t have mattered. The exact same threads came up when it was the EV tour and “platinum”
the only difference is with this tour is PJ specifically said they were doing this to keep fan club tickets prices down/to secure more fan club tickets. So yes it was their decision and most likely a compromise with TM for the fan club tickets. I bet they now wish they didn’t even try to do that.
People keep calling it capitalism. It’s not that. It’s a subsidy (handout) to the fan club if we’re being honest. kind of like a how a first class airline ticket subsidises the cost of a coach ticket. Be happy those people are in first class. If they weren’t your airfare would be higher.
So from what I saw on the comments on PJ's Facebook "poster artist word find" post today (cute... not), people waited in the queue after being chosen for the privilege of joining the Verified Fan onsale today, to find tickets ranging from $400, $700, up to $2000 a pop before service fees which according to a Nashville screen shot was $89 FOR THE SERVICE FEE.
THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain).
I'm not denying that anyone else had this experience but I noticed that, with the two shows I bought tickets for today, when I unchecked the PJ Premium box before viewing tickets, the only tickets that subsequently showed up were face value. I got face value tickets in the same section as the most senior Ten Club seats for both shows.
I got face value tickets in VF yesterday as well for Hamilton - great seats. There were premium seats listed but I also checked that box so they didn’t show up for me. I think in the rush to get tickets some people didn’t check the box and the premiums are often the first ones that come up.
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
Wouldn’t have mattered. The exact same threads came up when it was the EV tour and “platinum”
literally no one who is ok with platinum would change their opinion once it’s called PJ premium, and the reverse is also true. If you hate Platinum you will also hate PJ premium
the only difference is with this tour is PJ specifically said they were doing this to keep fan club tickets prices down/to secure more fan club tickets. So yes it was their decision and most likely a compromise with TM for the fan club tickets. I bet they now wish they didn’t even try to do that.
People keep calling it capitalism. It’s not that. It’s a big fat subsidy IE handout to the fan club if we’re being honest. kind of like a how a first class airline ticket subsidises the cost of a coach ticket. Be happy those people are in first class. If they weren’t your airfare would be higher.
Yeah, I get that there would still be bitching, but the fact that they're called "PJ Premium" makes people blame the band more than the seller, I guess my point is that PJ approved this, but they're not monitoring the prices. It's not like someone in the band is saying, "Floor seats in Nashville? Yeah, $1600 each." I am sure TM has some sort of automated system controlling the prices of these tickets. Rebranding it as something the band is offering makes it sound like the band has some say in what's being charged.
I think your "subsidy" argument is a good one.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing.
I'm embarrassed to say I got taken for over 1k for one ticket to the Earthlings tour for Beacon. if I waited they were on stub hub for 300 bucks. but TM and Eddie had to get theirs... It was a combo of pandemic, missing out on Fan club seats, not being verified tickets from TM and it was there. the impulse buy of maybe missing out. crazy how it works .
Huh? In one breath you say you could have waited and got tix much cheaper, then blame Ed/TM for "having to get theirs". Then you listed all the reasons you bought the $1K ticket. People do understand that you don't HAVE to buy tickets, right?
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
PJ was involved in the decision but you are bothered that people may figure that out. "They should have been better at disguising their greed" is an interesting play call.
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
Wouldn’t have mattered. The exact same threads came up when it was the EV tour and “platinum”
literally no one who is ok with platinum would change their opinion once it’s called PJ premium, and the reverse is also true. If you hate Platinum you will also hate PJ premium
the only difference is with this tour is PJ specifically said they were doing this to keep fan club tickets prices down/to secure more fan club tickets. So yes it was their decision and most likely a compromise with TM for the fan club tickets. I bet they now wish they didn’t even try to do that.
People keep calling it capitalism. It’s not that. It’s a big fat subsidy IE handout to the fan club if we’re being honest. kind of like a how a first class airline ticket subsidises the cost of a coach ticket. Be happy those people are in first class. If they weren’t your airfare would be higher.
Yeah, I get that there would still be bitching, but the fact that they're called "PJ Premium" makes people blame the band more than the seller, I guess my point is that PJ approved this, but they're not monitoring the prices. It's not like someone in the band is saying, "Floor seats in Nashville? Yeah, $1600 each." I am sure TM has some sort of automated system controlling the prices of these tickets. Rebranding it as something the band is offering makes it sound like the band has some say in what's being charged.
I think your "subsidy" argument is a good one.
TBH I think all the complaints are valid as long as people look at the entire picture. Picking and choosing one aspect of a larger decision makes it look like something it’s not.
Yes they are selling tickets at obscene prices, yes they took care of the fan club also. It’s all connected not two separate things
I don't know why it bothers me, but that they felt the need to brand it seems icky. It's not Platinum, it's PJ Premium!
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
Wouldn’t have mattered. The exact same threads came up when it was the EV tour and “platinum”
literally no one who is ok with platinum would change their opinion once it’s called PJ premium, and the reverse is also true. If you hate Platinum you will also hate PJ premium
the only difference is with this tour is PJ specifically said they were doing this to keep fan club tickets prices down/to secure more fan club tickets. So yes it was their decision and most likely a compromise with TM for the fan club tickets. I bet they now wish they didn’t even try to do that.
People keep calling it capitalism. It’s not that. It’s a big fat subsidy IE handout to the fan club if we’re being honest. kind of like a how a first class airline ticket subsidises the cost of a coach ticket. Be happy those people are in first class. If they weren’t your airfare would be higher.
Yeah, I get that there would still be bitching, but the fact that they're called "PJ Premium" makes people blame the band more than the seller, I guess my point is that PJ approved this, but they're not monitoring the prices. It's not like someone in the band is saying, "Floor seats in Nashville? Yeah, $1600 each." I am sure TM has some sort of automated system controlling the prices of these tickets. Rebranding it as something the band is offering makes it sound like the band has some say in what's being charged.
I think your "subsidy" argument is a good one.
TBH I think all the complaints are valid as long as people look at the entire picture. Picking and choosing one aspect of a larger decision makes it look like something it’s not.
Yes they are selling tickets at obscene prices, yes they took care of the fan club also. It’s all connected not two separate things
I think my bigger frustration is reading posts from people who are going onto Ticketmaster today and claiming that all of the seats were $400+ dollars. They see "PJ Premium" and think the whole show was priced like this, when that's not true at all. In fact, the only reason those seats are still available is because of the price. If they were face value, they'd be gone.
"I'm a lucky man, to count on both hands the [shows I've done]. Some folks just have one, others they got none..."
Wow -- that was BS. $1K dollar per ticket. Holding back premium seats while my ten club tickets are in the back. No thanks. This is really disappointing if it is the new normal. I love PJ but anyone willing to pay 500-1K per ticket needs their heads examined.
I agree. This is so fucked up. It's embarrassing.
I'm embarrassed to say I got taken for over 1k for one ticket to the Earthlings tour for Beacon. if I waited they were on stub hub for 300 bucks. but TM and Eddie had to get theirs... It was a combo of pandemic, missing out on Fan club seats, not being verified tickets from TM and it was there. the impulse buy of maybe missing out. crazy how it works .
I originally passed on EV tix because I thought they were ridiculously overpriced and really was not impressed by the songs I had heard (Long Way & The Haves) As the show got closer, I started suffering from FOMO, and began watching tickets and prices. They kept coming down, and finally I pulled the trigger on a pair of lowers that ended up being priced at what I would have paid through 10c. A PJ friend who has a 10c number very close to mine (within 250 or so) ended up sitting directly in front of us that night. Seats in the same row as us were priced at $400 more than I paid. This dynamic pricing is garbage.
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On the other end of the spectrum, PJ Premium is not the result of scalpers hoarding tickets and driving up the price of second market tickets. PJ Premium is a conscious decision, a collaboration between the artist and the ticket broker. Quality seats variably repriced with the sole intent of maximizing revenue. Some might even call it a side-effect of Green Disease. Nothing but respect for the greatest group of rock band humans this rock has ever known, but what would 1994 Stone say about 2022 PJ Premium?
THIS IS BULLSHIT. If you don't see it as such, just have your future paychecks direct deposited to Eddie's account for the next calendar year. The band knows this was happening. If future tours are gonna cost me $800 AND UP for a pair, this is my last tour (thank you $130 fan club seats in 2020, what a bargain).
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Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
the NBA started the variable pricing based on opponents. Then the NFL followed with that as well as higher pricing
music industry/ agents/ promoters/ bands followed the trend.
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
and as far as selling out, they get these promoters to hand over 1/2 - 3/4 of the venue to their fan club for the basic price, stopped the scalping situations by no transfers, F2F, etc. every band should be doing this. If the payoff is the premium situation so be it. Oh and those will all drop as all the shows come closer and well and extra tix drops at face.
Wetlands 91
CBGB 91
Roseland 91
and many, many more
IMHO, this was the biggest mistake they made. Should have just let Ticketmaster call them Platinum. TM is an easy target that takes this abuse every time they sell tickets. Why invite it on the band? Had they been labeled "Platinum" most of the people now calling PJ "greedy" would be accusing Ticketmaster of taking advantage of the band. Instead, it looks like this was PJ's decision.
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"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
plus, the only way to make change is by using/not using your wallet. so nothing changes unless the product isn't selling.
"nevermind what they're selling, it's what you're buying"...guy piciotto
Some people are ok getting secured seats for a premium price on the day of the sale. Great for them. I feel for those that are maxing their cards and paying for it months later financially.
the only difference is with this tour is PJ specifically said they were doing this to keep fan club tickets prices down/to secure more fan club tickets. So yes it was their decision and most likely a compromise with TM for the fan club tickets. I bet they now wish they didn’t even try to do that.
People keep calling it capitalism. It’s not that. It’s a subsidy (handout) to the fan club if we’re being honest. kind of like a how a first class airline ticket subsidises the cost of a coach ticket. Be happy those people are in first class. If they weren’t your airfare would be higher.
Yeah, I get that there would still be bitching, but the fact that they're called "PJ Premium" makes people blame the band more than the seller, I guess my point is that PJ approved this, but they're not monitoring the prices. It's not like someone in the band is saying, "Floor seats in Nashville? Yeah, $1600 each." I am sure TM has some sort of automated system controlling the prices of these tickets. Rebranding it as something the band is offering makes it sound like the band has some say in what's being charged.
I think your "subsidy" argument is a good one.
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."
PJ was involved in the decision but you are bothered that people may figure that out. "They should have been better at disguising their greed" is an interesting play call.
I think my bigger frustration is reading posts from people who are going onto Ticketmaster today and claiming that all of the seats were $400+ dollars. They see "PJ Premium" and think the whole show was priced like this, when that's not true at all. In fact, the only reason those seats are still available is because of the price. If they were face value, they'd be gone.
Hartford 10.02.96 | Mansfield 2 09.16.98 | Mansfield 1 08.29.00 | Mansfield 1 07.02.03 | Mansfield 3 07.11.03 | Boston 2 05.25.06 | Tampa 04.11.16 | Fenway 1 08.05.16 | Fenway 2 08.07.16 | Fenway 1 09.02.18 | Fenway 2 09.04.18 | Baltimore 03.28.20 | Hamilton 09.06.22 | Toronto 09.08.22 | Nashville 09.16.22 | St Louis 09.18.22 | Baltimore 09.12.24 | Fenway 1 09.15.24 | Fenway 2 09.17.24
"He made the deal with the devil, we get to play with him.
He goes to hell, of course. We're going to heaven."