Rip Taylor Hawkins

PJammer4life · March 2022

Taylor said he had anxiety playing in front of large crowds. Kind of figured some form of drugs was involved since it was pre show.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-features/taylor-hawkins-interview-foo-fighters-dave-grohl-nirvana-drumming-1327228/amp/

JH6056 · March 2022

sean9769 said:

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Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

2-feign-reluctance · March 2022

Nothing Left To Lose is a desert island record of mine. Will put that on and honor the man and the band.

Get_Right · March 2022

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bootlegger10 said:

Merkin Baller said:

bootlegger10 said:

Man, you got everything going for you and still can't kick the drugs. Very sad. Catches up to you eventually.

Have drugs been confirmed as the cause of death?

That's what the unconfirmed reports seem to be saying.

I’m not going to pay attention to those reports until the official toxicology report comes out. The NY Post is a rag.

THIS. Wait for the official results. Rags in south america are even worse than the US. Very sad, and who cares about future shows. Why even speculate, Dave lost his best friend. Let the man grieve. Again.

Get_Right · March 2022

JH6056 said:

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sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

Save your energy

Stewart Copeland

CarryTheZero · March 2022

2-feign-reluctance said:

Nothing Left To Lose is a desert island record of mine. Will put that on and honor the man and the band.

He had so much positive energy on stage and was a blast to watch. I feel so much for his family and the Foo family. Nothing Left to Lose is a favorite of mine. Aurora is a is tops on that one.

JH6056 · March 2022

Get_Right said:

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JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

Save your energy Stewart Copeland

Damn, totally outed!

I could go so many directions with this but this is about Taylor so, even though he and Dave Grohl have some of the best senses of humor ever... I'll leave it at that.

That said... I was 90% of what made the Police epic. Just sayin'....

[I honestly feel that Taylor would approve of this line of discussion, joking or serious throw-down fighting about the value of drummers in bands

]

Lerxst1992 · March 2022

JH6056 said:

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sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

FWIW the “Neil who” was a joke to my username.

JH6056 · March 2022

Lerxst1992 said:

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JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

FWIW the “Neil who” was a joke to my username.

I did totally miss that joke connected to your name, I guess that's a Rush reference? I didn't catch it. But somehow I knew you were joking overall, cuz not many here would have no idea who Neil Peart was, especially in a drummer convo. But thank you for clarifying, totally missed it, now wondering the reference and will try to figure it out!

Get_Right · March 2022

JH6056 said:

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Get_Right said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

Save your energy Stewart Copeland

Damn, totally outed!

I could go so many directions with this but this is about Taylor so, even though he and Dave Grohl have some of the best senses of humor ever... I'll leave it at that.

That said... I was 90% of what made the Police epic. Just sayin'....

[I honestly feel that Taylor would approve of this line of discussion, joking or serious throw-down fighting about the value of drummers in bands ]

Our spirits in the material world

cp3iverson · March 2022

Aurora apparently meant as much to Taylor as it does to us. One of the first tracks he ever recorded.

Glorified KC · March 2022

I love this performance of Cold Day in the Sun on Letterman

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bb6C2qPdxP8

Go Animal · March 2022

to Sean buncha numbers: next time you feel the need to post on this subject, or anything related to it... don't?

Just a suggestion.

aisleseats · March 2022

JH6056 said:

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sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Totally agree. We were just talking about this yesterday. I've seen DMB 65 times. And when LeRoi died back in 2008, as devastating as it was for everyone, the band was able to continue. But if it had been Carter, there's no way. And I think Taylor is an even more integral part of Foo than Carter is to DMB. Hell, he's half the band's identity at this point. Even though he wasn't even there at the very beginning, they're not Foo Fighters without him.

lastexitlondon · March 2022

I agree . Keep it respectful. Like ive said ive never listened to FF or any of T.H work but i can feel and see the love for the man.
Its ok to not be a fan but to have respect and care for those hurting

Wellwater Conspiracy · March 2022

So years ago I met Taylor at a bar in LA called the Cat & Fiddle, which itself is no longer there. Super chill, funny, happy go lucky guy. Not that note of sadness that some former addicts carry, and not a crazy party guy either. Really outgoing and happy to talk with anyone, tell stories and happy to hear stories from others. Obviously had his demons but none were apparent. My best to his family.

Lerxst1992 · March 2022

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JH6056 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

JH6056 said:

sean9769 said:

sean9769 said:

No doubt a talented drummer and he was much respected by his peers. However, since yesterday I've been reading no shortage of apologists and people in denial that the guy actually overdosed. It is what it is. Unlike many of the music greats we have lost in recent time, I'm not ready to crown him immortal status because unlike the others he was simply the drummer.

I'll do ya one better... Let's just say Cobain never died and it was business as usual for X amount of years and Foo Fighters never formed. Dave Grohl as badass as he is on the pots and pans was just the drummer in that band. Before anyone gets butt hurt over that we aren't talking about his resume since but are looking Nirvana only as if nothing happened after. Pretty much the same thing going on here.

Your words simply show how little you know and understand about band dynamics. I suppose Neil Peart was "just the drummer" of Rush? I suppose Charlie Watts was "just the drummer" of the Rolling Stones?

The importance and "essential-nature" of any given musician in a band depends COMPLETELY on those particular band roles and dynamics.

Yes, in the majority of bands, the drummer is not considered a lead member or a key member in terms of how the audience perceives the band. Unless you're Phill Collins and you're both the drummer and the lead.

But HOW the music gets made, what the band dynamics are... Take the Dave Matthews Band, they lost/ousted (don't start the argument here!) a founding member a couple of years ago but have gone on. The reasons they could and would are varied. But the role their drummer Carter plays in the band and has always played in the band, if he left or something happened to him, I guarantee you that would be the end of DMB.

Doesn't matter if you like DMB or not, there are a zillion examples of bands where the drummer - whether obviously to the casual fan or more behind the scenes in the making of the music and the band chemistry - is ESSENTIAL.

So your comment on Taylor Hawkins being "just the drummer" is just you admitting you're clueless about the dynamics in this band but also in so many bands in rock history. And that's ok, it's human to be clueless. Just know that it shows.

And everything I just said is true without even touching the fact that in 2001 when Taylor OD'd and was in a coma for 2 weeks, Dave Grohl was by his bedside pretty much the whole time. As in... Taylor Hawkins was a WHOLE LOT MORE to Dave Grohl than "just his drummer" and no one knows what it means to lose your best friend (Grohl's own words many times) as well as one of the few people you delighted in having as your drummer when you, yourself, are considered one of Rock's best drummers.

Neil who?

DMB? Seriously??

Totally don't care if you think nothing of DMB as a band. The point is about how important any given drummer is or isn't in the basic functioning of any given band. And your comment proves you know almost nothing about it in general, and definitely not re: the Foo Fighters. Which is fine. The fact that you don't like certain bands is completely unrelated to whether your point is valid or not. Your ignorance of it how band dynamics and specific people's roles in the band - both musical, creative, and other social dynamics & leadership - is what invalidates your point. Not your perception of which bands are worth paying attention to in a conversation.

FWIW the “Neil who” was a joke to my username.

I did totally miss that joke connected to your name, I guess that's a Rush reference? I didn't catch it. But somehow I knew you were joking overall, cuz not many here would have no idea who Neil Peart was, especially in a drummer convo. But thank you for clarifying, totally missed it, now wondering the reference and will try to figure it out!

.Lerxst is the nickname of Alex Lifeson, the Rush guitarist (and my avatar is supposed to be Mike’s guitar, so 2 of my fave guitarists side by side). Although there are a couple rushheads on here that get the Lerxst reference, part of the joke is that’s it’s obscure reference (Rush and PJ are very different styles/fanbases ). So it’s a Rush fan pretending to not know who Neil Peart was (Rush drummer).

RIP Neil, RIP Taylor, both losses so tragic.

cp3iverson · March 2022

Wellwater Conspiracy said:

So years ago I met Taylor at a bar in LA called the Cat & Fiddle, which itself is no longer there. Super chill, funny, happy go lucky guy. Not that note of sadness that some former addicts carry, and not a crazy party guy either. Really outgoing and happy to talk with anyone, tell stories and happy to hear stories from others. Obviously had his demons but none were apparent. My best to his family.

That’s awesome. Never heard a bad word about him honestly. Just a cool dude.

BSully · March 2022

Yeah, this is terribly sad news.
I was listening to a Taylor Hawkins memorial on SXM over the weekend. Lots of good memories on there of him.

kramer73 · March 2022

lastexitlondon said:

I agree . Keep it respectful. Like ive said ive never listened to FF or any of T.H work but i can feel and see the love for the man.
Its ok to not be a fan but to have respect and care for those hurting

It’s the internet. It’s easy to be an asshole behind a screen.

Rip Taylor Hawkins

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