Rip Taylor Hawkins

BF89905

cp3iverson said:

Great weather today.  

Went for a drive and blasted:

My Hero
Best of You
Walk
Wheels

felt great.  Long Live Taylor Hawkins.  

Four great songs

garland09

I say take a break get things right then get Dave A behind the drum kit and get going again

PJ_Soul

garland09 said:

I say take a break get things right then get Dave A behind the drum kit and get going again

Pap

Bentleyspop said:

https://twitter.com/PearlJam/status/1507815167878434818?t=arfdMRsfaUBPOFh72SQy6A&s=19

Pap

Nandi Bushell Pays Tribute to Taylor Hawkins

HughFreakingDillon

PJ_Soul said:

garland09 said:

I say take a break get things right then get Dave A behind the drum kit and get going again

haha, I also had this thought....but chose not to say it out loud for obvious reasons. 

Zod

HughFreakingDillon said:

NWOntario said:

This is probably morbid, so my apologies in advance - but I wonder if the band (or bands in general, for that matter) have the "what happens if one of us dies?" conversation. I know the Tragically Hip had it in light of Gord Downie's cancer diagnosis, but that's a bit different. (Gord wanted the band to continue after he was gone; the rest of the members refused.) There's also the matter of KISS musing about whether the band could just continue with new members even after Paul and Gene are gone...

I mentioned this here or in the FF thread, but apparently they did. They said if any of the members died, FF would cease to exist. however, we all know that bands decide this thinking that won't happen until it no longer matters, so who knows what they'll actually do. 

Yah that would be super tough.  It's one thing to have in a casual conversation when it feels like it's a far away problem.  It's another when your confronted with the issue long before you ever thought you would.

I know my perspective and feelings on things change all the time.   Living through things is often different then when you plan for them in advance :(

cp3iverson

Like someone said before (maybe Zod) it’s so tough to just suddenly drop from the stadium circuit.  As a career it’s the pinnacle of cash and comfort when it comes to touring.  Dave is an alien to have come out of Nirvana and form a band that plays way bigger venues than Nirvana ever could.  

FF are such a Dave vehicle.  It’s just tough because Taylor’s personality was so big and his drumming was so well known.  Hard to know.   Just truly bums me out like no other music loss in such a long time.  

KL159781

HughFreakingDillon said:

Zod said:

I'm not sure.. but when you've read stuff about Plant, it sounded like he just got too sad doing it without Bonham on the drums.  It's why (aside from a few very rare occasions) have never retoured.   Plant never had a desire to do Zeppelin without Bonham there.  I guess they must of been tight.

Which causes earie similarities to this situation... but one can hope for a better outcome :(

Did they attempt to continue without him and it was too hard? or was it a "he's gone, we're done"?

They announced their breakup a couple months after Bonham’s death in 1980 but reunited at Live Aid with Phil Collins and Tony Thompson on drums. What doesn’t get talked about much is that after Live Aid they actually took steps towards continuing on with Tony Thompson as their drummer. Here’s a bit of what Robert Plant said about those 1986 rehearsals:

Robert Plant interviewed in Rolling Stone #522 3/24/88:

RS: What's the real story about the secret rehearsals you, Page and John Paul Jones reportedly held with drummer Tony Thompson after Live Aid? How far did you really get in forming a new Led Zeppelin?

RP: We had a week together with Tony Thompson. This was the following January,'86. The guy who's now my tour manager was brought in to look after the drums, to help Tony Thompson leave Heathrow Airport and travel to this secret destination.

RS: Where was this secret destination?

RP: Isn't it crazy? "Secret destination." It was off the motorway near Peter Gabriel's house in Bath. We took a village hall, filled it with parachutes to take all the angles and corners off the room and set up the equipment. Page duly arrived, and we plugged in. But as much as he wanted to do it, it wasn't time for Pagey to do that. He had just finished the second Firm album, and I think he was a bit confused about what he was doing. And the interesting thing is that after seven years of being without him and fending for myself, I'm a lot more forthright. When I reach a conclusion, I immediately react to it. Way back in the old days, this may have taken a week of mutual discussion. One person couldn't make the decision of four people.

If you want to hear more details on this, here’s a link:

https://forums.ledzeppelin.com/topic/12882-jones-page-plant-and-thompson-in-1986/

pdalowsky

Zod said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Zod said:

I'm not sure.. but when you've read stuff about Plant, it sounded like he just got too sad doing it without Bonham on the drums.  It's why (aside from a few very rare occasions) have never retoured.   Plant never had a desire to do Zeppelin without Bonham there.  I guess they must of been tight.

Which causes earie similarities to this situation... but one can hope for a better outcome :(

Did they attempt to continue without him and it was too hard? or was it a "he's gone, we're done"?

It was the latter, He's gone, we're done.   I think they've reunited 4 times since.  Live Aid, a record label celebration, RROF, and that O2 concert.   And I think it was mostly Plant.  I think the other other two would of reunited and toured eventually, but Robert Plant still hasn't gotten over it :(

Live8 then saw the mighty Floyd

HughFreakingDillon

KL159781 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Zod said:

I'm not sure.. but when you've read stuff about Plant, it sounded like he just got too sad doing it without Bonham on the drums.  It's why (aside from a few very rare occasions) have never retoured.   Plant never had a desire to do Zeppelin without Bonham there.  I guess they must of been tight.

Which causes earie similarities to this situation... but one can hope for a better outcome :(

Did they attempt to continue without him and it was too hard? or was it a "he's gone, we're done"?

They announced their breakup a couple months after Bonham’s death in 1980 but reunited at Live Aid with Phil Collins and Tony Thompson on drums. What doesn’t get talked about much is that after Live Aid they actually took steps towards continuing on with Tony Thompson as their drummer. Here’s a bit of what Robert Plant said about those 1986 rehearsals:

Robert Plant interviewed in Rolling Stone #522 3/24/88:

RS: What's the real story about the secret rehearsals you, Page and John Paul Jones reportedly held with drummer Tony Thompson after Live Aid? How far did you really get in forming a new Led Zeppelin?

RP: We had a week together with Tony Thompson. This was the following January,'86. The guy who's now my tour manager was brought in to look after the drums, to help Tony Thompson leave Heathrow Airport and travel to this secret destination.

RS: Where was this secret destination?

RP: Isn't it crazy? "Secret destination." It was off the motorway near Peter Gabriel's house in Bath. We took a village hall, filled it with parachutes to take all the angles and corners off the room and set up the equipment. Page duly arrived, and we plugged in. But as much as he wanted to do it, it wasn't time for Pagey to do that. He had just finished the second Firm album, and I think he was a bit confused about what he was doing. And the interesting thing is that after seven years of being without him and fending for myself, I'm a lot more forthright. When I reach a conclusion, I immediately react to it. Way back in the old days, this may have taken a week of mutual discussion. One person couldn't make the decision of four people.

If you want to hear more details on this, here’s a link:

https://forums.ledzeppelin.com/topic/12882-jones-page-plant-and-thompson-in-1986/

wow, cool, thanks!

FR181798

Not important in the scheme of things but its really hard to see where Foo Fighters go from here.  I suspect after an extended period of time out Dave might want to do something different and a solo record under his own name would probably fit with that. Guest appearances on other peoples records seems very likely. Ive no doubt that we will see some "new" material under the Foo Fighters name one day, one final studio release, numerous live releases but find its hard to see them going back on the road rocking out in stadiums with a touring drummer. Unfortunately I would say that as a functioning recording and touring band its over. 

JH6056

FR181798 said:

Not important in the scheme of things but its really hard to see where Foo Fighters go from here.  I suspect after an extended period of time out Dave might want to do something different and a solo record under his own name would probably fit with that. Guest appearances on other peoples records seems very likely. Ive no doubt that we will see some "new" material under the Foo Fighters name one day, one final studio release, numerous live releases but find its hard to see them going back on the road rocking out in stadiums with a touring drummer. Unfortunately I would say that as a functioning recording and touring band its over. 

Totally agree. Dave Grohl (and Pat Smear) have now gone through losing a band member TWICE. I don't think anyone can really imagine what it's like to lose a "coworker" who is also a BEST friend and also key to the functioning of your "work"... TWICE.

They're gonna need time to just even stay sane....  And I agree it's hard to imagine ever touring again as the FFs, though some recordings with guests or a tribute album to him or somethign is all totally imaginable.

2-feign-reluctance

Nobody really knows, but I keep in my
mind this is a man who rose from the ashes of one of the biggest bands of all time to forge something new. Human resilience is truly something. I don’t believe Grohl will leave music. I’m reading his Storyteller book at the moment and just couldn’t see him stopping. Who knows what will be, but the man’s passion and dedication to the craft is something to behold. 

kramer73

JH6056 said:

FR181798 said:

Not important in the scheme of things but its really hard to see where Foo Fighters go from here.  I suspect after an extended period of time out Dave might want to do something different and a solo record under his own name would probably fit with that. Guest appearances on other peoples records seems very likely. Ive no doubt that we will see some "new" material under the Foo Fighters name one day, one final studio release, numerous live releases but find its hard to see them going back on the road rocking out in stadiums with a touring drummer. Unfortunately I would say that as a functioning recording and touring band its over. 

Totally agree. Dave Grohl (and Pat Smear) have now gone through losing a band member TWICE. I don't think anyone can really imagine what it's like to lose a "coworker" who is also a BEST friend and also key to the functioning of your "work"... TWICE.

They're gonna need time to just even stay sane....  And I agree it's hard to imagine ever touring again as the FFs, though some recordings with guests or a tribute album to him or somethign is all totally imaginable.

3X for Pat, unfortunately.

Zod

I guess I'll be contrary.  My guess is they go on hiatus for an extended period of time, but I think once they've had time to absorb what happened, reflect, and get past the waive of grief, that they'll figure out a way to carry on.

I think they like touring to big crowds too much to shut down.   I think it'll take them a long while to get there, but I predict we'll see the foo fighters play again some day.   Maybe they won't settle for a touring drummer.   It'll be different, but maybe they'll try to find someone new who can stick around for a decade or two.

PJammer4life

The Who soldiered on after Keith Moon unexpectedly passed. I’d say his drumming and Taylor’s are respected on a pretty high level. I guess the challenge would be to find someone out there that has the skill, passion, and personality to take the sticks and continue that ride with Dave and the Foos. Maybe Nandi Bushell in the future?
https://mashable.com/video/dave-grohl-nandi-bushell-played-together-live-everlong

HughFreakingDillon

no, no, no. that kid is cute, and talented for sure, but I wish people would stop suggesting her. 

DE4173

Not sure if this has been posted. Great read:

https://coryreeder.substack.com/p/taylorhawkins?r=yza2n&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

HughFreakingDillon

DE4173 said:

Not sure if this has been posted. Great read:

https://coryreeder.substack.com/p/taylorhawkins?r=yza2n&s=w&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

thanks for posting.