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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    https://youtu.be/YDxkloJ-4kE
    I found this interesting.  Im not joe rogan or joe arther. Just  why is it hard to get real data now! 


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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    ^ Agreed.  Dr. Campbell is objective and fact based.  It is refreshing. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Yeah i trust him and his approach.  
    I think all information should  be there to see. Its obviously  available  now. 


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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,475
    bbiggs said:
    Spiritual_Chaos said:

    STOCKHOLM -- Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

    "With the knowledge we have today, with a low risk for serious disease for kids, we don't see any clear benefit with vaccinating them," Health Agency official Britta Bjorkholm told a news conference.

    She added that the decision could be revisited if the research changed or if a new variant changed the pandemic. Kids in high-risk groups can already get the vaccine.



    Seems like a logical approach to me. It is interesting how different countries that all have access to the same data points have very different stances on this. 

    EDIT - It deleted the part I bolded from the original post for some reason, which was this:

    Sweden has decided against recommending COVID vaccines for kids aged 5-11, the Health Agency said on Thursday, arguing that the benefits did not outweigh the risks.

    "With the knowledge we have today, with a low risk for serious disease for kids, we don't see any clear benefit with vaccinating them," Health Agency official Britta Bjorkholm told a news conference.

    She added that the decision could be revisited if the research changed or if a new variant changed the pandemic. Kids in high-risk groups can already get the vaccine.


    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Lerxst1992
    Lerxst1992 Posts: 7,916
    lastexitlondon said:
    https://youtu.be/YDxkloJ-4kE
    I found this interesting.  Im not joe rogan or joe arther. Just  why is it hard to get real data now! 







    .

    I agree more data is better, but doc lets not go full tilt roegan here, the first two columns are unvaccinated total deaths and rates per 100k, the next two are for the vaccinated.

    in every time period there is a clearly identifiable trend.

  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    The  data that Pfizer  has and the others  is not fully disclosed.  Why?


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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    lastexitlondon said:
    The  data that Pfizer  has and the others  is not fully disclosed.  Why?
    The data that it's saved millions of lives is everywhere.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Its not about  vaxxed or not vaxxed. Its about the trial data being  transparent for the  vaccine. Thats the  point not if it  works. But the trial facts


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    What he is saying is true.  Why cant  we see the trial data. Why


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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    lastexitlondon said:
    Its not about  vaxxed or not vaxxed. Its about the trial data being  transparent for the  vaccine. Thats the  point not if it  works. But the trial facts
    Really? Just Google it. The trial results are there. 
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    To be clear i have  had 3 vaccines. Im in no way anti fuck all . And yes its saved lives but I'm  wondering why the non transparency  . Lets see it all and make our adult minds up and for our children  
     Thats all. This place is fuckin ridiculous  and  narrow


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    edited January 2022
    Ok mate. Watch the video. Later 
    Post edited by lastexitlondon on


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    https://youtu.be/YDxkloJ-4kE
    I found this interesting.  Im not joe rogan or joe arther. Just  why is it hard to get real data now! 
    Thanks for sharing…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    To be clear i have  had 3 vaccines. Im in no way anti fuck all . And yes its saved lives but I'm  wondering why the non transparency  . Lets see it all and make our adult minds up and for our children  
     Thats all. This place is fuckin ridiculous  and  narrow
    If you get shut down because you have questions about a vaccine then it’s safe to assume lots of people should start to have questions…shut up and take it was the dumbest approach government could take…
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    Just found it interesting.  Im too old and fucked up to bother with idiots.  


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  • dignin
    dignin Posts: 9,478
    lastexitlondon said:
    To be clear i have  had 3 vaccines. Im in no way anti fuck all . And yes its saved lives but I'm  wondering why the non transparency  . Lets see it all and make our adult minds up and for our children  
     Thats all. This place is fuckin ridiculous  and  narrow
    Narrow. I'm being serious, I googled Pfizer covid trial results and they are there.

    People need to stop getting their info from YouTube.

    It's rotting your brains.
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,904
    It's  from the british medical  journal  not you tube. Watch the video fool


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  • Meltdown99
    Meltdown99 None Of Your Business... Posts: 10,739
    lastexitlondon said:
    It's  from the british medical  journal  not you tube. Watch the video fool
    What’s the fellow name?
    Give Peas A Chance…
  • Hobbes
    Hobbes Pacific Northwest Posts: 6,438

    Moderna - IAVI and Moderna Launch Trial of HIV Vaccine Antigens Delivered Through mRNA Technology (modernatx.com)


    Moderna’s HIV Vaccine Has Officially Begun Human Trials | them.
  • mrussel1
    mrussel1 Posts: 30,882
    Hobbes said:

    Moderna - IAVI and Moderna Launch Trial of HIV Vaccine Antigens Delivered Through mRNA Technology (modernatx.com)


    Moderna’s HIV Vaccine Has Officially Begun Human Trials | them.
    I won't support this until I do my own research and evaluate all the data myself. 

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