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  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
  • ComeToTX
    ComeToTX Austin Posts: 8,064
    The vaccine failed? It’s keeping virtually everyone that has gotten it out of the hospital. That’s an amazing failure. 
    This show, another show, a show here and a show there.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,614
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 
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  • jefft
    jefft Posts: 678
    josevolution said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 
    Lol
  • D-Rod
    D-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,992
    RatherStarved said:
    Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  
    That has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with the fact they suck.   Go Hab’s Go BTW 
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
    2025.....Raleigh N1, Raleigh N2, Pittsburgh N1, Pittsburgh N2
    2026.....????????????????????????????????????????? 
  • demetrios
    demetrios Posts: 97,373
    RatherStarved said:
    Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  

    Whoa! Maybe they can finally focus on the game & win tonight.
  • DM282158
    DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 658
    D-Rod said:
    RatherStarved said:
    Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  
    That has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with the fact they suck.   Go Hab’s Go BTW 
    Haha touche. Jeff Gorton in charge now. Habs will be back…. (Even I admit that as a Bruins fan). 
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  • darwinstheory
    darwinstheory LaPorte, IN Posts: 7,364
    josevolution said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 
    I believe he has held that title for some time now.
    "A smart monkey doesn't monkey around with another monkey's monkey" - Darwin's Theory
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,461
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 
    www.cluthelee.com
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,324
    darwinstheory said:
    josevolution said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 
    I believe he has held that title for some time now.
    He has no lack of competitors for the crown though. 
  • HailHailVitalogy
    HailHailVitalogy Posts: 6,013
    PJ just has terrible timing lol. They communicate, hospitalizations go up. In hindsight, June/July would have been a perfect time for the rescheduled shows.
    2003: Uniondale, MSG x2 | 2004: Reading | 2005: Gorge, Vancouver, Philly | 2006: East Rutherford x2, Gorge x2, Camden 1, Hartford | 2008: MSG x2, VA Beach | 2009: Philly x3 | 2010: MSG x2, Bristow | 2011: Alpine Valley x2 | 2012: MIA Philly | 2013: Wrigley, Charlottesville, Brooklyn 2 | 2014: Milan, Amsterdam 1 | 2016: MSG x2, Fenway x2, Wrigley 2 | 2018: Rome, Krakow, Berlin, Wrigley 2 | 2021: Sea Hear Now | 2022: San Diego, LA x2, MSG, Camden, Nashville, St. Louis, Denver | 2023: St. Paul 1, Chicago x2, Fort Worth x2, Austin 2 | 2024: Las Vegas 1, Seattle x2, Indy, MSG x2, Philly x2, Baltimore, Ohana 2 | 2025: Florida x2, Atlanta x2, Pittsburgh x2
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 
    I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.
  • JDime20
    JDime20 Posts: 196
    jimjam1982 said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 
    I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.
    Those aren’t facts. The vaccine isn’t failing. The countless people refusing to get it and running around maskless are failing.  
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    jimjam1982 said:
    2-feign-reluctance said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    Saltzy23 said:
    This tour is porked again.

    We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.
    Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 
    WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 
    I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.
    The vaccine is not failing at all. If you look at the current hospitalizations...how many are vaccinated? How many are unvaccinated? There are your facts.
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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,324
    Don’t feed the troll.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,773
    Anyone want to start the 2023 thread?

     Thanks omicron.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited December 2021
    Can’t speak for Europe or Canada shows, but I don’t see Omicron slowing down any touring in the USA, no matter how bad it gets.  

    It doesn’t make sense to assume shows would get postponed when we don’t even have mask mandates at this point.  Any restrictions would go the way of mask mandates first.  

    Also, there are literally so many shows scheduled for 2022 in the US that canceling them would lead to a total collapse of the touring industry. 

    When the March 2020 tour was canceled, COVID was new, scary and we knew nothing about it.

    Come March 2022, everyone in the US will have had access to not only a vaccine but a booster as well, and we know exponentially more about the disease and it’s variants.  We are at a completely different place now than when the initial cancelations of shows all over we’re postponed.

    Best thing we can do is continue to have private venues/companies/employers mandate vaccines on their own accord and move forward.  Everyone joining together and voluntary getting the shot is never, ever going to happen.  And I’m down for a national vaccine mandate, I just have no clue how you actually get that done.  Hopefully the non Vaxxed will be inconvenienced enough by restrictions that they ultimately get it and help slow this down.  But I do agree that Covid will be in our lives for the rest of our days at least, in some form or another.

    TL;Dr
    I think its early and aggressive to assume an entire tour will be postponed again while even the most basic of restrictions have not been reimplemented across the country, and while the lead singer of the band we love announced an indoor tour in the most populated cities in this country in the heart of flu and cold season.
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
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    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • OceansJenny
    OceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,409
    Broadway is struggling with Covid related closures. But if other touring bands are doing fine then shouldn’t be an issue unless they make it one.
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,905
    Weston1283 said:
    Can’t speak for Europe or Canada shows, but I don’t see Omicron slowing down any touring in the USA, no matter how bad it gets.  

    It doesn’t make sense to assume shows would get postponed when we don’t even have mask mandates at this point.  Any restrictions would go the way of mask mandates first.  

    Also, there are literally so many shows scheduled for 2022 in the US that canceling them would lead to a total collapse of the touring industry. 

    When the March 2020 tour was canceled, COVID was new, scary and we knew nothing about it.

    Come March 2022, everyone in the US will have had access to not only a vaccine but a booster as well, and we know exponentially more about the disease and it’s variants.  We are at a completely different place now than when the initial cancelations of shows all over we’re postponed.

    Best thing we can do is continue to have private venues/companies/employers mandate vaccines on their own accord and move forward.  Everyone joining together and voluntary getting the shot is never, ever going to happen.  And I’m down for a national vaccine mandate, I just have no clue how you actually get that done.  Hopefully the non Vaxxed will be inconvenienced enough by restrictions that they ultimately get it and help slow this down.  But I do agree that Covid will be in our lives for the rest of our days at least, in some form or another.

    TL;Dr
    I think its early and aggressive to assume an entire tour will be postponed again while even the most basic of restrictions have not been reimplemented across the country, and while the lead singer of the band we love announced an indoor tour in the most populated cities in this country in the heart of flu and cold season.
    I don't know.  There's still a lot of unknowns with variants.  Where I live only introduce restrictions yesterday, so I imagine if the US did any it would be quite a bit after.  Also the USA isn't a unified front.   The whole country doesn't do the same thing.   You might have some states introduce stricter measures than other states.   That could make touring hard.

    I think it's still in wait and see mode.  It seem the vaccines do much less against omicron, so I'm not sure people being double vaxed does all that much.  On the flip side it's also mentioned that the severity of the virus might not be as bad, so maybe less people have complications from it.   But it also spreads like wildfire, so more people getting, but a lower hospitalization rate, could still lead to overflowing hospitals.

    I dunno. If I've learned anything in the last 2 years is no one is clairvoyant.    Everyone's been making it up as they go a long as new information comes out.  This wave is still early on, things will change as it advances.  Hopefully for the better.  I really want the mega happy ending where omicron really is less severe, everyone gets it, gets some kind of immunity to Covid19, and we move on with minimal casualties.

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