well, good thing I have my Platinum seats for $1k that are now 250 bucks for the ev show!
You thought that $1000 was a good price when you bought them, so you can't complain that they are now selling for less. No one forced you to buy them at $1000.
Admittedly, I tend to take a “don’t count your eggs before they hatch” mentality to most things. There’s a completely reasonable, and probably more likely answer for all of the above
- EV shows placed on hold due to the first round not having great ticket sales. - We all expected Baltimore to be cancelled so it’s not really a huge surprise - “Game over folks” plus the fact that Baltimore is starting to refund could simply mean that an announcement is imminent and that the waiting game is over - Plus, they’re working on a new album with Andrew Watt. That’s not a band that’s about to break up. - Communication still leaves a lot to be desired though, as cancellations should be announced by the band first, not people getting phone calls from an arena
Where is there indication that the first round of EV tickets sold poorly? The presale sold out in minutes. It’s the bullshit ticketing they’re doing as to why there are still seats available. If they sold all tickets for let’s say $150 it would be an easy sell out. But they’re playing this “maximize the value”, dynamic pricing bullshit game and that’s why there are tickets left.
(ps any anger is not directed at you )
This is correct. Live Nation has been clear on this point. The goal is no longer to sell tickets as fast as possible. The days of 5 minute sell outs is long gone. With the platinum/VIP ticketing, it is normal for many tickets to remain on sale for long periods of time with the goal as you mention of maximizing the total revenue. Before the pandemic, I saw The Who at MSG and barely 50 percent of the tickets were sold about a month before the show. By showtime, the place was packed.
Oh that’s interesting, I didn’t know they formally changed their mission statement so to speak. “Poor ticket sales” can’t be a complaint then anymore since they are holding out for higher buyers.
DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
I'm too lazy to dig up the last PJ communication about tour announcement. I remember that they said the tour would begin in May, but did they specifically mention that the announcement would come in January? Or did they simply say something to the effect of "early in the new year.."
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I'm too lazy to dig up the last PJ communication about tour announcement. I remember that they said the tour would begin in May, but did they specifically mention that the announcement would come in January? Or did they simply say something to the effect of "early in the new year.."
“We are confirming that the previously scheduled shows in North America will start in May 2022. We are working to finalize the details of the new tour schedule and will announce the dates early next year.”
So is the March 3rd or whatever it was for the Ticketmaster refund deadline still in place? If they wait until after the EV tour that would leave about a week. Would they wait that long? This is getting beyond frustrating.
Funny, I was gonna do the same thing. I probably wasn't gonna make the show anymore regardless of when it's rescheduled. Had great seats too, one row behind the Vitalogy seats. Hope someone on here enjoys them when it's finally show time!
I'm too lazy to dig up the last PJ communication about tour announcement. I remember that they said the tour would begin in May, but did they specifically mention that the announcement would come in January? Or did they simply say something to the effect of "early in the new year.."
“We are confirming that the previously scheduled shows in North America will start in May 2022. We are working to finalize the details of the new tour schedule and will announce the dates early next year.”
Gracias.
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For people concerned about the March 1st refund window, I’d guess that once the rescheduled dates are announced that there will be another 14 or 30 day window to request refunds. Unless I was in desperate need for cash, I’d continue to wait it out.
Sticking with my guess of an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14 if in fact dates are starting May 2022.
2003 - June 15 Fargo 2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg 2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View 2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago 2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York 2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia 2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View 2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon 2012 - Sept 30 Missoula 2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle 2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee 2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York 2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
For people concerned about the March 1st refund window, I’d guess that once the rescheduled dates are announced that there will be another 14 or 30 day window to request refunds. Unless I was in desperate need for cash, I’d continue to wait it out.
Sticking with my guess of an announcement between Feb 28 and Mar 14 if in fact dates are starting May 2022.
This was my thought process but then I saw the F2F debacle on the EV tour. If I can't resell and F2F is disabled it becomes a huge gamble on thousands of dollars (if you have multiple shows of course.)
If 10C chose to waive the resale rules for this tour alone I would gladly just hang on to them and StubHub what I can't use, but they won't do that so refunds or gambling are the options.
They're not going to announce rescheduled dates and not give a refund option and/or the ability to resell the tickets to other fans via F2F. Far too many people have had far too much money tied up for 2+ years for that to happen. They'd experience a major shit storm if they handled it any other way.
Refund window has been historically 30 days from the announcement of new dates, at least for multiple other announcements of postponed shows over the past 2 years. Should still be enough time for those looking to make travel plans and see what they are able to manage fitting into their schedule, request refunds from shows they will not attend, with F2F being the contingency for those who didn't refund within 30 days and need to sell their tickets.
AFI just announced they are delaying their tour until the fall.
And Shawn Mendes moved his European tour to 2023.
I think at this point they’re using Eddie’s tour as a dry run. It is a bit weird that his tour is full speed ahead, they’re tweeting about tickets for the bands European tour in June/July and we still don’t have a hint of dates for May in the US/Canada; not even rumors from people who work at the arenas.
I think the announcement they put out in the fall was before omicron or just as omicron started making the news. My guess is with so many months passed, things might of changed.
It's all over the place with other bands. Some are going full speed ahead, some are delaying, some do small/tight tours, etc..
I'm guessing it could either be they are testing the water's with the EV tour in smaller venues, or waiting for the omicron wave to calm down before anouncing anything.
I does feel weird the EV tour is going full steam ahead. Maybe he's not the dissenting opinion in the band?
Ottawa refund requested. Will think about my next refund request if no news in Feb. Very disappointed with the lack of communication. Can only vote with my feet.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
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Ottawa refund requested. Will think about my next refund request if no news in Feb. Very disappointed with the lack of communication. Can only vote with my feet.
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2005 - Sept 1 George, Sept 8 Winnipeg
2006 - May 9/10 Toronto, June 26/27 St. Paul, July 22/23 George, Oct 21/22 Mountain View
2007 - Aug 2/5 Chicago
2008 - June 22 Washington, June 24/25 New York
2009 - Aug 21 Toronto, Aug 23/24 Chicago, Sept 21/22 Seattle, Oct 27/28/30/31 Philadelphia
2010 - May 15 Hartford, May 17 Boston, Oct 23/24 Mountain View
2011 - Sept 3/4 Alpine Valley, Sept 11/12 Toronto, Sept 17 Winnipeg, Sept 19 Saskatoon
2012 - Sept 30 Missoula
2013 - July 16 London, July 19 Chicago, Oct 12 Buffalo, Dec 2 Calgary, Dec 4 Vancouver, Dec 6 Seattle
2014 - Oct 16 Detroit, Oct 19 St. Paul, Oct 20 Milwaukee
2015 - Sept 23 (Colbert)/Sept 26, New York
2016 - Apr 28/29 Philadelphia, May 10/12 Toronto, Aug 20/22 Chicago
If 10C chose to waive the resale rules for this tour alone I would gladly just hang on to them and StubHub what I can't use, but they won't do that so refunds or gambling are the options.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023