2022 North American rumour thread take 2

on2legs

Falling Down said:

on2legs said:

RatherStarved said:

KL159781 said:

Weston1283 said:

Looking forward to these shows finally being announced in a few short weeks

There are literally thousands of other shows happening on a daily basis.  There are no indications of restrictions being reinforced.  There will be Eddie Vedder shows in 6 weeks and there will be Pearl Jam shows in the USA in May 2022.

It is a guarantee that there is going to be a huge post holiday spike of Omicron and that it is going to get much worse.  Eddie has to know this and I truly just dont believe these shows would have even been announced if there was any concern about playing to a fully vaccinated indoor crowd, no matter how bad it gets, because January and February are going to be horrible for Omicron.

I don’t see Eddie’s tour going ahead in February if NY or CA do like some Canadian provinces and reduce capacity at events to 50%. With only 9 dates, if he loses 2-4 dates, the entire tour will be postponed.

Maybe Omicron will be so contagious that it will go quickly and will have subsided by Feb.  No clue if that has any scientific merit, and obviously hoping it is mild - which is not really known so far.  

With the Earthlings being a secondary project for the individuals in the group I wonder when next they would all be free for a 3 week block or so.  

Hoping this isn’t all bad karma due to the platinum ticket pricing…

I was having the same conversation with my wife about Omicron.  Maybe it will be a quick peak and then tail off with hopefully continued mild symptoms. 

I love it that we try to find some positive anywhere we can. 

Weston1283

bbiggs said:

^ I think the issue with the possibility of Omicron hitting like a tsunami and then subsiding quickly is that there is very little time for decisions to be made from the EV camp.  Even if this thing is done in 30 days from now, that's more time than what they'll need to cancel if they plan to.  Can't cancel less than 2 weeks before shows.  I guess you can, but not ideal.  All that said, unless there is pressure from outside forces (i.e. local governments, collapsing healthcare, etc.), I think the shows go on.  Adding a show just last week says a lot about their mindset.

HughFreakingDillon

Weston1283 said:

Looking forward to these shows finally being announced in a few short weeks

There are literally thousands of other shows happening on a daily basis.  There are no indications of restrictions being reinforced.  There will be Eddie Vedder shows in 6 weeks and there will be Pearl Jam shows in the USA in May 2022.

It is a guarantee that there is going to be a huge post holiday spike of Omicron and that it is going to get much worse.  Eddie has to know this and I truly just dont believe these shows would have even been announced if there was any concern about playing to a fully vaccinated indoor crowd, no matter how bad it gets, because January and February are going to be horrible for Omicron.

ed's shows were announced prior to the knowledge of omicron. 

Weston1283

For those who think the Ed Shows will get canceled

Do you just think that they will as in a prediction?  

Or do you want them to get canceled / Will you think less of him and the band if Omicron rages and the shows still happen as scheduled?

drakeheuer14

I would think more highly of him and the band for continuing. Just like so many other bands are and will. 

Weston1283

HughFreakingDillon said:

Weston1283 said:

Looking forward to these shows finally being announced in a few short weeks

There are literally thousands of other shows happening on a daily basis.  There are no indications of restrictions being reinforced.  There will be Eddie Vedder shows in 6 weeks and there will be Pearl Jam shows in the USA in May 2022.

It is a guarantee that there is going to be a huge post holiday spike of Omicron and that it is going to get much worse.  Eddie has to know this and I truly just dont believe these shows would have even been announced if there was any concern about playing to a fully vaccinated indoor crowd, no matter how bad it gets, because January and February are going to be horrible for Omicron.

ed's shows were announced prior to the knowledge of omicron. 

Not totally true.  Omicron was identified in the USA on the day of the announcement and there was already signs of an initial spike at time of announcement as well.  There has also since been an added show.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/world/live-news/omicron-covid-19-variant-12-01-21/index.html

Noload

drakeheuer14 said:

I would think more highly of him and the band for continuing. Just like so many other bands are and will. 

Me too. I think most expected a big spike in cases during cold weather so I assume they factored this in when planning shows in the dead of winter in the most populated cities.  Im already getting ready for the Pi variant!

MisterEtake2

Noload said:

Is 3 shots fully vaccinated now?  Asking for a friend.

It is still two shots for now.

bootlegger10

For Chicago, when you have already sold 12 shows, why pull the sale on the 13th show?  All in at this point.

JimmyV

The new Spiderman movie just had the third biggest opening weekend of all time. If OMICRON is as contagious as we have been told then there is no way that's not going to be an enormous super spreader. 

iamloco724

If omicron is mild which it's very much looking to be. Why would anyone cancel tours or do anything that was done before? Even the white house messaging on this is to keep moving forward, if you're unvaccinated that's on you. 

HughFreakingDillon

Weston1283 said:

HughFreakingDillon said:

Weston1283 said:

Looking forward to these shows finally being announced in a few short weeks

There are literally thousands of other shows happening on a daily basis.  There are no indications of restrictions being reinforced.  There will be Eddie Vedder shows in 6 weeks and there will be Pearl Jam shows in the USA in May 2022.

It is a guarantee that there is going to be a huge post holiday spike of Omicron and that it is going to get much worse.  Eddie has to know this and I truly just dont believe these shows would have even been announced if there was any concern about playing to a fully vaccinated indoor crowd, no matter how bad it gets, because January and February are going to be horrible for Omicron.

ed's shows were announced prior to the knowledge of omicron. 

Not totally true.  Omicron was identified in the USA on the day of the announcement and there was already signs of an initial spike at time of announcement as well.  There has also since been an added show.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/world/live-news/omicron-covid-19-variant-12-01-21/index.html

same day, so essentially the same thing as what I said. so the announcement was already in the pipeline. pulling the announcement the day of without knowing the facts would have had disastrous effects. also, at that time, it wasn't known if omicron was vaccine resistant or not. we now know more about that. 

I don't know if he'll cancel or not. I also don't know if he should or shouldn't. But given the history of this band's reaction to all of this, it wouldn't surprise me in the least if he does. 

uglybabo

Weston1283 said:

For those who think the Ed Shows will get canceled

Do you just think that they will as in a prediction?  

Or do you want them to get canceled / Will you think less of him and the band if Omicron rages and the shows still happen as scheduled?

I myself wouldn’t think less of him/the band if they continue on, but this feeling that the pandemic is over seems to be a very US-centric state of mind; I know that there will be a time that COVID becomes endemic but just stating that it is doesn’t make it true for now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6292622

‘ Bars, gyms, movie theatres, concert venues and spas must close as of 5 p.m. Monday. Restaurants will have to reduce their capacity to 50 per cent and limit their hours to 5-10 p.m. Professional sports will have to be held without audiences.’

And Hamilton on Broadway just cancelled through Christmas. 

JimmyV

I didn't believe we'd be seeing cancellations like this a few weeks ago. I have no idea what to expect come February and March. 

PJNB

JimmyV said:

I didn't believe we'd be seeing cancellations like this a few weeks ago. I have no idea what to expect come February and March. 

Very true. Knee jerk reaction due to cases about to skyrocket or is there actual proof that this variant is more than the common cold symptom wise. Better safe than sorry I guess but how long do we go with this mind set? 

HughFreakingDillon

PJNB said:

JimmyV said:

I didn't believe we'd be seeing cancellations like this a few weeks ago. I have no idea what to expect come February and March. 

Very true. Knee jerk reaction due to cases about to skyrocket or is there actual proof that this variant is more than the common cold symptom wise. Better safe than sorry I guess but how long do we go with this mind set? 

I don't think it's been around long enough to have any real determinable data on that yet. 

uglybabo

JimmyV said:

I didn't believe we'd be seeing cancellations like this a few weeks ago. I have no idea what to expect come February and March. 

Yeah, me too. I was going to enter for the Earthling shows and the main reason I didn’t was mostly financial and proximity to possible May dates. Didn’t think that they’d have a chance to be cancelled. 

And it’s possible that May/June may be better for touring but I think expecting them to announce those dates in January is optimistic. 

tschav

Can someone rename this thread to 2022 Covid rumour thread take 2?

Nothing to do but wait for the schedule announcement early next year, stay as safe as you can, and know your options if things change.

OceansJenny

uglybabo said:

Weston1283 said:

For those who think the Ed Shows will get canceled

Do you just think that they will as in a prediction?  

Or do you want them to get canceled / Will you think less of him and the band if Omicron rages and the shows still happen as scheduled?

I myself wouldn’t think less of him/the band if they continue on, but this feeling that the pandemic is over seems to be a very US-centric state of mind; I know that there will be a time that COVID becomes endemic but just stating that it is doesn’t make it true for now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6292622

‘ Bars, gyms, movie theatres, concert venues and spas must close as of 5 p.m. Monday. Restaurants will have to reduce their capacity to 50 per cent and limit their hours to 5-10 p.m. Professional sports will have to be held without audiences.’

And Hamilton on Broadway just cancelled through Christmas. 

Hamilton closing is big bucks gone. Wow.

Canada is also looking like it’s adding restrictions back? Or at least Quebec. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6292622

uglybabo

OceansJenny said:

uglybabo said:

Weston1283 said:

For those who think the Ed Shows will get canceled

Do you just think that they will as in a prediction?  

Or do you want them to get canceled / Will you think less of him and the band if Omicron rages and the shows still happen as scheduled?

I myself wouldn’t think less of him/the band if they continue on, but this feeling that the pandemic is over seems to be a very US-centric state of mind; I know that there will be a time that COVID becomes endemic but just stating that it is doesn’t make it true for now. 

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6292622

‘ Bars, gyms, movie theatres, concert venues and spas must close as of 5 p.m. Monday. Restaurants will have to reduce their capacity to 50 per cent and limit their hours to 5-10 p.m. Professional sports will have to be held without audiences.’

And Hamilton on Broadway just cancelled through Christmas. 

Hamilton closing is big bucks gone. Wow.

Canada is also looking like it’s adding restrictions back? Or at least Quebec. https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.6292622

Yeah NYC in rough shape; 4 Broadway shows cancelled through Christmas, the Radio City Christmas cancelled altogether and LCD Soundsystem couldn’t conclude their Brooklyn run. 

Yeah Quebec is as of five today. In Ontario restrictions are back but we’re expecting closures pretty soon too.