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2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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    D-RodD-Rod Hamilton, Ontario Posts: 1,819
    If they’re refunding ADA seats, you gotta think an announcement is coming Monday or Tuesday. Maybe they add a second MSG or a DC date and give those holding tickets (10c or Public) first dibs.
    I’ve been predicting 1/31 as the announcement date for a few weeks now.  What do I win if I’m right?
    If your correct you get to enjoy a cold one with yours truly at the Hamilton show.    That’s got to be worth something.  
    1996.....Toronto
    2005.....Hamilton
    2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
    2013.....London, Buffalo
    2014.....Detroit
    2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston  N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
    2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
    2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto  
    2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
    2024.....???? 
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    BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,590
    Just talked to a friend in Maryland who has Vitalogy tickets for Baltimore. Also knows people in the DMV concert business. He has heard nothing from anyone about the Balmore show being cancelled or moved.
    But is leaning towards cancellation.
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    D-Rod said:
    If they’re refunding ADA seats, you gotta think an announcement is coming Monday or Tuesday. Maybe they add a second MSG or a DC date and give those holding tickets (10c or Public) first dibs.
    I’ve been predicting 1/31 as the announcement date for a few weeks now.  What do I win if I’m right?
    If your correct you get to enjoy a cold one with yours truly at the Hamilton show.    That’s got to be worth something.  
    It’s worth the second round right back atcha from me! 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    OceansJennyOceansJenny Manhattan, NY Posts: 3,222
    JimmyV said:
    Did I ever tell you about when I won my first pair of GA tickets for Pearl Jam, only to have the show be postponed for two years and then canceled altogether? No? Well...it's not that good of a story. 
    It’s a sad sad story! Ugh that’s awful, so sorry.
    DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '22
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,672
    JimmyV said:
    Did I ever tell you about when I won my first pair of GA tickets for Pearl Jam, only to have the show be postponed for two years and then canceled altogether? No? Well...it's not that good of a story. 
    It’s a sad sad story! Ugh that’s awful, so sorry.
    I don’t have GA tickets for Baltimore, but I think it would be a great idea to offer everyone who did automatic dibs for GA at a future Baltimore or (hopefully) the DC show that will replace it 
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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    Rule #1: Never believe what anyone from any company tells you over the telephone. Chances are they know less than you do about whatever you are calling about.
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    mfc2006mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,404
    Hope we hear something soon & that everyone is able to see them. Be well, everyone.
    I LOVE MUSIC.
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    YourDirtisMyfoodYourDirtisMyfood Boston Posts: 4,533
    Rule #1: Never believe what anyone from any company tells you over the telephone. Chances are they know less than you do about whatever you are calling about.
    care to share what Rule #2 is?
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    on2legson2legs Standing in the Jersey rain… Posts: 14,575
    Rule #1: Never believe what anyone from any company tells you over the telephone. Chances are they know less than you do about whatever you are calling about.
    care to share what Rule #2 is?

    Never go against a Sicilian when death is on the line!

    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore


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    Rule #1: Never believe what anyone from any company tells you over the telephone. Chances are they know less than you do about whatever you are calling about.
    care to share what Rule #2 is?
    If the person on the phone knows more than you, see rule #1.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
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    darthvedderdarthvedder Posts: 2,526
    TH113769 said:
    A few thoughts:

    1)  An announcement will most likely come Monday - fits the January announcement theme previously made.  If not, all bets are off and there are no excuses.  

    2)  Remember the CEO on the busines side quit / retired last year.  This is a huge business organization and anytime a leader walks away there can be issues.  

    3)  I'm as disappointed as everyone else with the lack of communication and holding on to money (15 shows tied up including Europe), but if they announced a new tour now my guess is tickets would be tickets would be 50% higher than what we paid given what is going on in the industry.  Get ready for the sticker shock n new dates - massive inflation is real.  

    What "January announcement theme"? All they have said on the matter is "early next year".
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    Just talked to a friend in Maryland who has Vitalogy tickets for Baltimore. Also knows people in the DMV concert business. He has heard nothing from anyone about the Balmore show being cancelled or moved.
    But is leaning towards cancellation.
    He hasn’t heard anything from anyone in the know……but he, himself is leaning towards cancellation? Not sure I follow. Is he in the know as well or just his speculation based off of hearing nothing?
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    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
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    vedpunkvedpunk Posts: 863
    Game over folks. 
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
    Additional EV shows or all PJ shows on pause?
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    DEGBTIDEGBTI san diego Posts: 937
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    well, good thing I have my Platinum seats for $1k that are now 250 bucks for the ev show!
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    uglybabo said:
    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
    Additional EV shows or all PJ shows on pause?
    uglybabo said:
    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
    Additional EV shows or all PJ shows on pause?
    Additional ev shows 
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    uglybabouglybabo Posts: 518
    uglybabo said:
    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
    Additional EV shows or all PJ shows on pause?
    uglybabo said:
    Noload said:
    @LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan has had some good info in the past I think...how about those additional EV shows too?
    From what I’ve been told, any additional dates at this point have been put on pause. 
    Additional EV shows or all PJ shows on pause?
    Additional ev shows 
    Thanks!
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,672
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    Not sure what this means… not sure I want to know based on my current assumptions on the state of the band…
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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    HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 36,108
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    Not sure what this means… not sure I want to know based on my current assumptions on the state of the band…
    the state of the band?
    Flight Risk out NOW!

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    Go BeaversGo Beavers Posts: 8,738
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    Not sure what this means… not sure I want to know based on my current assumptions on the state of the band…
    the state of the band?

    I wonder what percent of the fan base thinks the band is always on the verge of breaking up? Reminds me of some guy who posted a review of Binaural saying it was signaling the break up, and he went through each song pulling lines to support his claim.
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    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    This sounds ominous 
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,672
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    Not sure what this means… not sure I want to know based on my current assumptions on the state of the band…
    the state of the band?

    I wonder what percent of the fan base thinks the band is always on the verge of breaking up? Reminds me of some guy who posted a review of Binaural saying it was signaling the break up, and he went through each song pulling lines to support his claim.
    I don’t think they always are.  But a combination of a venue reaching out to fans to cancel tickets, continuation of silence regarding shows, planned added EV shows being scratched, and someone who has had info in the past saying “game over folks” ??  How can that outcome be anything but bad
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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    PJamminPJammin Posts: 578
    vedpunk said:
    Game over folks. 
    Not sure what this means… not sure I want to know based on my current assumptions on the state of the band…
    the state of the band?

    I wonder what percent of the fan base thinks the band is always on the verge of breaking up? Reminds me of some guy who posted a review of Binaural saying it was signaling the break up, and he went through each song pulling lines to support his claim.
    I don’t think they always are.  But a combination of a venue reaching out to fans to cancel tickets, continuation of silence regarding shows, planned added EV shows being scratched, and someone who has had info in the past saying “game over folks” ??  How can that outcome be anything but bad
    Kind of has that sinkin' feeling, doesn't it?
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    DM282158DM282158 Beverly, MA Posts: 530
    As Lloyd Christmas would say, “Boy this party really died.”  
    Boston '06
    Mansfield '08
    Hartford '10
    Worcester, Hartford '13
    Global Citizen, NY '15
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    Rule #1: Never believe what anyone from any company tells you over the telephone. Chances are they know less than you do about whatever you are calling about.
    care to share what Rule #2 is?
    See Rule #1
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    Weston1283Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 4,672
    edited January 2022
    Admittedly, I tend to take a “don’t count your eggs before they hatch” mentality to most things.  There’s a completely reasonable, and probably more likely answer for all of the above

    - EV shows placed on hold due to the first round not having great ticket sales.
    - We all expected Baltimore to be cancelled so it’s not really a huge surprise
    - “Game over folks” plus the fact that Baltimore is starting to refund could simply mean that an announcement is imminent and that the waiting game is over 
    - Plus, they’re working on a new album with Andrew Watt.  That’s not a band that’s about to break up.
    - Communication still leaves a lot to be desired though, as cancellations should be announced by the band first, not people getting phone calls from an arena
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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    tdawetdawe Posts: 2,010
    “We are confirming that the previously scheduled shows in North America will start in May 2022. We are working to finalize the details of the new tour schedule and will announce the dates early next year.”

    Everybody chill out. Stay off of Facebook. 
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    tylermooretylermoore St. Joseph, MI Posts: 903
    tdawe said:
    “We are confirming that the previously scheduled shows in North America will start in May 2022. We are working to finalize the details of the new tour schedule and will announce the dates early next year.”

    Everybody chill out. Stay off of Facebook. 
    Exactly. If they would have said “in January” then I’d be freaking out. But as far as I’m concerned February and even March is pretty early in the year still. They can announce today or in 5 weeks. We’re all still going, they know it. We know it. 
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    drfoxdrfox Posts: 1,180
    Admittedly, I tend to take a “don’t count your eggs before they hatch” mentality to most things.  There’s a completely reasonable, and probably more likely answer for all of the above

    - EV shows placed on hold due to the first round not having great ticket sales.
    - We all expected Baltimore to be cancelled so it’s not really a huge surprise
    - “Game over folks” plus the fact that Baltimore is starting to refund could simply mean that an announcement is imminent and that the waiting game is over 
    - Plus, they’re working on a new album with Andrew Watt.  That’s not a band that’s about to break up.
    - Communication still leaves a lot to be desired though, as cancellations should be announced by the band first, not people getting phone calls from an arena
    Exactly and remember all the doom-mongers on here last year who said SHN and Ohana wouldn't happen. My guess is the US tour will be announced shortly and most of the European tour will happen as planned.

    Has anyone thought one of the reasons why no more EV shows have been announced could be becuase they can't fit them in until later in the year (RHCP are touring as well as PJ this Summer), plus the 6 month delay on shipping the vinyl and deluxe CD... There's no rush
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