2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Umm. Wow.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • 3days
    3days Posts: 1,200
    I respect PJ's decision. We have no idea what goes into it.
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    on2legs said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Why not just request a refund? They can’t steal something you’re voluntarily letting them hold.  
    Not everything is about you.  If it isn't a 10C ticket it can't be refunded.  It's a fucked situation man.  Play or don't.  It's beyond insane.  There is an extreme vocal minority that comes on here on how great it is too hold tickets forever without any consideration of how others are affected.  I am well off.  I don't need the money.  I just voice for those without a voice.  I'll get all my refunds as needed.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    jimjam1982 said:
    on2legs said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Why not just request a refund? They can’t steal something you’re voluntarily letting them hold.  
    Not everything is about you.  If it isn't a 10C ticket it can't be refunded.  It's a fucked situation man.  Play or don't.  It's beyond insane.  There is an extreme vocal minority that comes on here on how great it is too hold tickets forever without any consideration of how others are affected.  I am well off.  I don't need the money.  I just voice for those without a voice.  I'll get all my refunds as needed.
    How did I make it about me? I just recommended you get a refund if you felt that the band was stealing your money.  
    1996: Randall's Island 2  1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2  2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel  2005: Atlantic City 1  2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV)  2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4  2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2  2011: Toronto 1  2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2015: Central Park  2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD)  2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF)  2020: MSG | Asbury Park  2021: Asbury Park  2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville  2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore  2025: Raleigh


  • tdawe
    tdawe Posts: 2,091
    jimjam1982 said:
    on2legs said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Why not just request a refund? They can’t steal something you’re voluntarily letting them hold.  
    Not everything is about you.  If it isn't a 10C ticket it can't be refunded.  It's a fucked situation man.  Play or don't.  It's beyond insane.  There is an extreme vocal minority that comes on here on how great it is too hold tickets forever without any consideration of how others are affected.  I am well off.  I don't need the money.  I just voice for those without a voice.  I'll get all my refunds as needed.
    When I look at my (non-10C) Baltimore tickets on my Ticketmaster account, I see a big ol’ box that says “Request A Refund”. I’m too scared to click the button - I’m not trying to be a voice for anybody or anything, I just want to see Pearl Jam whenever they decide to play again - but my assumption is that if I did it would lead me down the path toward getting a refund. 
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  • BloodMeridian80
    BloodMeridian80 Seattle Posts: 715
    edited November 2021
    tdawe said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    on2legs said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Why not just request a refund? They can’t steal something you’re voluntarily letting them hold.  
    Not everything is about you.  If it isn't a 10C ticket it can't be refunded.  It's a fucked situation man.  Play or don't.  It's beyond insane.  There is an extreme vocal minority that comes on here on how great it is too hold tickets forever without any consideration of how others are affected.  I am well off.  I don't need the money.  I just voice for those without a voice.  I'll get all my refunds as needed.
    When I look at my (non-10C) Baltimore tickets on my Ticketmaster account, I see a big ol’ box that says “Request A Refund”. I’m too scared to click the button - I’m not trying to be a voice for anybody or anything, I just want to see Pearl Jam whenever they decide to play again - but my assumption is that if I did it would lead me down the path toward getting a refund. 
    Lol. I got a refund for Rage Ticketmaster tickets, so I suspect  you are right. 
    Post edited by BloodMeridian80 on
  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,906
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Wow man, if you really thing the band is stealing from you, and not just being over careful given the current situation I think your following the wrong band. 



  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,779
    Does anyone have any actual rumors? Usually someone has a friend who knows someone at an arena who hints at arena hold dates etc. We need more of that and less debate etc.  
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    tdawe said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    on2legs said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    Why not just request a refund? They can’t steal something you’re voluntarily letting them hold.  
    Not everything is about you.  If it isn't a 10C ticket it can't be refunded.  It's a fucked situation man.  Play or don't.  It's beyond insane.  There is an extreme vocal minority that comes on here on how great it is too hold tickets forever without any consideration of how others are affected.  I am well off.  I don't need the money.  I just voice for those without a voice.  I'll get all my refunds as needed.
    When I look at my (non-10C) Baltimore tickets on my Ticketmaster account, I see a big ol’ box that says “Request A Refund”. I’m too scared to click the button - I’m not trying to be a voice for anybody or anything, I just want to see Pearl Jam whenever they decide to play again - but my assumption is that if I did it would lead me down the path toward getting a refund. 
    I’m seeing the same button for my MSG tickets (and these are non ten club seats).  




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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    jimjam1982 said:
    apirk72 said:
    Why do people think because other bands do something or make certain decisions that should have any impact on what another band does.  Yes, there are a lot of bands that are touring etc, there are also a lot of bands not touring or playing a very selective amount of shows. I'd rather a band play shows they want to play then reluctantly play a bunch of shows because they feel they need to cater to their fanbase.   They'll announce and tour if/when they are ready, no point in letting it negatively impact your life, you can stop being a fan anytime you'd like.
    Then cancel and refund. They are basically stealing at this point. It's a real thin fucking line right now. 
    I have refunded both 10c and Fan to Fan ticketmaster tickets in the last 2 weeks with no issues.  I don't think they are stealing.  You should be able to get a refund if you go into your account and click that button.
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • NDJeff7
    NDJeff7 Posts: 216
    I agree that I don't think they are stealing since we always have the option to grab a refund. I do wish that there was more transparency and not just radio silence after their festival shows last month. If they don't feel comfortable indoors, then just cancel those shows and book an outdoor tour.
    I remember one of our members saying over a month ago that the arenas/dates were confirmed for the spring and that we are just waiting on an announcement.
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited November 2021
    Also, I would be incredibly shocked if Euro 2022 didn't happen.  That would involve pulling out of multiple festivals which wouldn't go over well with promoters etc.  And if they're not comfortable touring by then, then it may just never happen.  There will be a covid spike/season in 2022, 2023, 2024, 2025 and so on and so on.  That is inevitable.  

    Once we figure out what the hell is going on with the 2020 NA dates, it should be back to the status quo after that.
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Eddie seems ready to go


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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JeBurkhardt
    JeBurkhardt Posts: 5,331
    bootlegger10 said:
    I booked my international flights for Europe 2022.  I'll still go though regardless of whether Pearl Jam plays a note at this point.  Just change up the trip a little.  Not sure yet what anyone expects to change between this year and next year.   I'm in the optimist camp that the US and EUro shows will be a go.  
    We have tickets to both London shows in July. We are going to the concerts as part of a 30 year wedding anniversary trip. After the concerts we are going to go to Paris for a few days as well. If the shows don't happen, we will still have a fantastic vacation.  
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I thought public sale tickets could not be refunded since the window was closed for most spring shows. Face to fan and 10C could but not those. Can anyone confirm?
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    edited November 2021
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    lmckenney24 said:
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
    "I got memories, I got shit"
  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    JojoRice said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
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  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,779
    JojoRice said:
    lmckenney24 said:
    JojoRice said:
    Atlanta radio station is teasing a big concert announcement at 9am this morning.  Would be nice if it was PJ but we know it won't be. 
    Probably Music Midtown for 2022, since Shaky Knee's recently announced there headliners. 
    They just announced that it's Journey.  :|
    Um, no disrespect to Journey, but when is the big announcement?!?
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023

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