2022 North American rumour thread take 2

Zod

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

uglybabo said:

“Sources say much stronger measures were discussed with premiers and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during a Tuesday evening call. The proposed measures included whether to implement a ban on all non-essential foreign travellers into Canada, including from the United States, and stricter quarantine and testing measures for travellers who are allowed into Canada, including returning Canadians and permanent residents.“

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-travel-restrictions-1.6285823

Now thinking that there could be some tougher regulations for Canadians getting to the February Vedder dates; hopefully this is resolved before the Spring. 

Except they never really stopped anyone from flying in the first place. Sooooo………..🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

That was a loophole. The US didn't care if Canadians flew to the US, and Canada's policy was you can't stop a Canadian from returning home, so ergo if you were determined you cross the border.

I'm sitting with tickets to the EV Seattle shows.   I don't think I'm willing to push the flying card.  Crossing my fingers they don't shut the land border down to non-essential travel again :(

RatherStarved

Zod said:

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

uglybabo said:

“Sources say much stronger measures were discussed with premiers and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau during a Tuesday evening call. The proposed measures included whether to implement a ban on all non-essential foreign travellers into Canada, including from the United States, and stricter quarantine and testing measures for travellers who are allowed into Canada, including returning Canadians and permanent residents.“

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-travel-restrictions-1.6285823

Now thinking that there could be some tougher regulations for Canadians getting to the February Vedder dates; hopefully this is resolved before the Spring. 

Except they never really stopped anyone from flying in the first place. Sooooo………..🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

That was a loophole. The US didn't care if Canadians flew to the US, and Canada's policy was you can't stop a Canadian from returning home, so ergo if you were determined you cross the border.

I'm sitting with tickets to the EV Seattle shows.   I don't think I'm willing to push the flying card.  Crossing my fingers they don't shut the land border down to non-essential travel again :(

There was however the 14 day quarantine for over a year so even though you could fly and return, that was a major reason not to.  Omicron is everywhere so hopefully there won’t be a return to that as it’s not like it’s going to solve anything.  

jefft

Concerts/sports back to 50 percent in ontario. Not looking good.

Weston1283

Fortunately looks like Canada wont be happening until November 2022 anyway

uglybabo

Weston1283 said:

Fortunately looks like Canada wont be happening until November 2022 anyway

With the way this band has been cautious (Ed’s shows being the exception) we have to hope for an improvement before January, or they may delay the announcement. 

I know we’re in the midst of this in Ontario and hopefully it’s better come spring but they may not be willing to announce dates if the cases are going crazy. 

Europe is a whole other thing; the band could be dealing with 8, 9 or 10 different restrictions depending on country. 

HughFreakingDillon

Weston1283 said:

Fortunately looks like Canada wont be happening until November 2022 anyway

how do you know this?

uglybabo

HughFreakingDillon said:

Weston1283 said:

Fortunately looks like Canada wont be happening until November 2022 anyway

how do you know this?

A rumor of MSG in the fall has led to idea of just west coast dates prior to Europe and then east coast in the fall. 

Weston1283

Pretty solid rumor of MSG in November, Canada restrictions, combined with Baltimore almost certainly being canceled, and the only other east shows being in Canada.  All of that plus the logistics of making it to Europe by mid June.  I’d say with 90% certainty that MSG and Canada will happen in November. 

demetrios

Weston1283 said:

Pretty solid rumor of MSG in November, Canada restrictions, combined with Baltimore almost certainly being canceled, and the only other east shows being in Canada.  All of that plus the logistics of making it to Europe by mid June.  I’d say with 90% certainty that MSG and Canada will happen in November. 

It's gonna be a long wait, but so worth it.  

Saltzy23

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

jimjam1982

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

ComeToTX

The vaccine failed? It’s keeping virtually everyone that has gotten it out of the hospital. That’s an amazing failure. 

RatherStarved

Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  

josevolution

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 

jefft

josevolution said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 

Lol

D-Rod

RatherStarved said:

Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  

That has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with the fact they suck.   Go Hab’s Go BTW 

demetrios

RatherStarved said:

Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  

Whoa! Maybe they can finally focus on the game & win tonight.

DM282158

D-Rod said:

RatherStarved said:

Montreal Canadiens playing at home tonight with no fans.  

That has nothing to do with Covid and everything to do with the fact they suck.   Go Hab’s Go BTW 

Haha touche. Jeff Gorton in charge now. Habs will be back…. (Even I admit that as a Bruins fan). 

darwinstheory

josevolution said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 

I believe he has held that title for some time now.

2-feign-reluctance

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 

JeBurkhardt

darwinstheory said:

josevolution said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

You win most uninformed PJ fan of the board congrats! 

I believe he has held that title for some time now.

He has no lack of competitors for the crown though. 

HailHailVitalogy

PJ just has terrible timing lol. They communicate, hospitalizations go up. In hindsight, June/July would have been a perfect time for the rescheduled shows.

jimjam1982

2-feign-reluctance said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 

I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.

JDime20

jimjam1982 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 

I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.

Those aren’t facts. The vaccine isn’t failing. The countless people refusing to get it and running around maskless are failing.  

mfc2006

jimjam1982 said:

2-feign-reluctance said:

jimjam1982 said:

Saltzy23 said:

This tour is porked again.

We will all have screen burn for the tickets on our TM apps before ever actually get to see these shows.

Covid is never going away. The vaccine failed. They retire or accept it. Those are the choices. Pneumonia is far scarier then omnicron. Ain't no tour ever been canceled for pneumonia 

WTF dude. I think the Fox & Friends forum misses you. 

I dont watch that. Looking forward to the tour as announced. It won't be canceled. They don't want plan b. Some of you say uninformed. But really I just stated some facts.

The vaccine is not failing at all. If you look at the current hospitalizations...how many are vaccinated? How many are unvaccinated? There are your facts.

100 Pacer

Don’t feed the troll.

RatherStarved

Anyone want to start the 2023 thread?

 Thanks omicron.

Weston1283

Can’t speak for Europe or Canada shows, but I don’t see Omicron slowing down any touring in the USA, no matter how bad it gets.  

It doesn’t make sense to assume shows would get postponed when we don’t even have mask mandates at this point.  Any restrictions would go the way of mask mandates first.  

Also, there are literally so many shows scheduled for 2022 in the US that canceling them would lead to a total collapse of the touring industry. 

When the March 2020 tour was canceled, COVID was new, scary and we knew nothing about it.

Come March 2022, everyone in the US will have had access to not only a vaccine but a booster as well, and we know exponentially more about the disease and it’s variants.  We are at a completely different place now than when the initial cancelations of shows all over we’re postponed.

Best thing we can do is continue to have private venues/companies/employers mandate vaccines on their own accord and move forward.  Everyone joining together and voluntary getting the shot is never, ever going to happen.  And I’m down for a national vaccine mandate, I just have no clue how you actually get that done.  Hopefully the non Vaxxed will be inconvenienced enough by restrictions that they ultimately get it and help slow this down.  But I do agree that Covid will be in our lives for the rest of our days at least, in some form or another.

TL;Dr
I think its early and aggressive to assume an entire tour will be postponed again while even the most basic of restrictions have not been reimplemented across the country, and while the lead singer of the band we love announced an indoor tour in the most populated cities in this country in the heart of flu and cold season.

OceansJenny

Broadway is struggling with Covid related closures. But if other touring bands are doing fine then shouldn’t be an issue unless they make it one.

Zod

Weston1283 said:

Can’t speak for Europe or Canada shows, but I don’t see Omicron slowing down any touring in the USA, no matter how bad it gets.  

It doesn’t make sense to assume shows would get postponed when we don’t even have mask mandates at this point.  Any restrictions would go the way of mask mandates first.  

Also, there are literally so many shows scheduled for 2022 in the US that canceling them would lead to a total collapse of the touring industry. 

When the March 2020 tour was canceled, COVID was new, scary and we knew nothing about it.

Come March 2022, everyone in the US will have had access to not only a vaccine but a booster as well, and we know exponentially more about the disease and it’s variants.  We are at a completely different place now than when the initial cancelations of shows all over we’re postponed.

Best thing we can do is continue to have private venues/companies/employers mandate vaccines on their own accord and move forward.  Everyone joining together and voluntary getting the shot is never, ever going to happen.  And I’m down for a national vaccine mandate, I just have no clue how you actually get that done.  Hopefully the non Vaxxed will be inconvenienced enough by restrictions that they ultimately get it and help slow this down.  But I do agree that Covid will be in our lives for the rest of our days at least, in some form or another.

TL;Dr
I think its early and aggressive to assume an entire tour will be postponed again while even the most basic of restrictions have not been reimplemented across the country, and while the lead singer of the band we love announced an indoor tour in the most populated cities in this country in the heart of flu and cold season.

I don't know.  There's still a lot of unknowns with variants.  Where I live only introduce restrictions yesterday, so I imagine if the US did any it would be quite a bit after.  Also the USA isn't a unified front.   The whole country doesn't do the same thing.   You might have some states introduce stricter measures than other states.   That could make touring hard.

I think it's still in wait and see mode.  It seem the vaccines do much less against omicron, so I'm not sure people being double vaxed does all that much.  On the flip side it's also mentioned that the severity of the virus might not be as bad, so maybe less people have complications from it.   But it also spreads like wildfire, so more people getting, but a lower hospitalization rate, could still lead to overflowing hospitals.

I dunno. If I've learned anything in the last 2 years is no one is clairvoyant.    Everyone's been making it up as they go a long as new information comes out.  This wave is still early on, things will change as it advances.  Hopefully for the better.  I really want the mega happy ending where omicron really is less severe, everyone gets it, gets some kind of immunity to Covid19, and we move on with minimal casualties.