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So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?mace1229 said:
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules.mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 - 
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I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough?The Juggler said:
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?mace1229 said:
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules.mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
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Yeah who gives a shit about a 9 second out of context clip is my point. The only reason things like that go viral with the people on the right is their argument is weak. They ignore the fact that the science says masking up works. They ignore the fact that vaccines work. Unfortunately we live in a dumbed down society where a nine second, out of context, clip is much easier for people to digest than the things that actually matter .mace1229 said:
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough?The Juggler said:
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?mace1229 said:
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules.mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Anyway.....I'd still like JB to answer the question of what Biden needs to be doing differently on this subject. I am not holding my breath for an answer though...www.myspace.com0 - 
            
Go back to the first comment. It wasn't about the video. That was merely a deflection.mace1229 said:
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough?The Juggler said:
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?mace1229 said:
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules.mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.0 - 
            
In my view, you can't compare year 1 to year 2 for a ton of reasons. You can compare the actions and seriousness shown by public officials. That's were I draw a distinction.benjs said:
That ain't true.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.

The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.0 - 
            
I fully agree. I was just throwing two irrefutable reasons out there. An apple-to-apple comparison just isn't feasible.mrussel1 said:
In my view, you can't compare year 1 to year 2 for a ton of reasons. You can compare the actions and seriousness shown by public officials. That's were I draw a distinction.benjs said:
That ain't true.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.

The higher the mountains, the worse the situation. The very worst the pandemic ever was in the United States to-date, in terms of numbers of active cases, and deaths, was during the last two months of Trump's (shit)show.
Another thing - Trump had no vaccines and also no variants, Biden had vaccines - but the variants came around the same, bringing higher transmissibility and mortality rates, so it's a very incomplete comparison unless you have some concept of the relative influence of those two.'05 - TO, '06 - TO 1, '08 - NYC 1 & 2, '09 - TO, Chi 1 & 2, '10 - Buffalo, NYC 1 & 2, '11 - TO 1 & 2, Hamilton, '13 - Buffalo, Brooklyn 1 & 2, '15 - Global Citizen, '16 - TO 1 & 2, Chi 2
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they all turn into toddlers who say "but if he doesn't have to, why do I?". just baffling. I just saw pictures of an event at my local art gallery with several prominent people. SEVERAL of them were not masked, and it was indoors.The Juggler said:
Yeah who gives a shit about a 9 second out of context clip is my point. The only reason things like that go viral with the people on the right is their argument is weak. They ignore the fact that the science says masking up works. They ignore the fact that vaccines work. Unfortunately we live in a dumbed down society where a nine second, out of context, clip is much easier for people to digest than the things that actually matter .mace1229 said:
I’m not saying it’s an indicator of anything. JB posted a link and said Biden isn’t following the rules. mrussel said you (JB) think Biden isn’t doing enough?The Juggler said:
So a 9 second, out of context, clip of Biden walking out of a restaurant over the weekend is somehow an indicator of...what exactly? Are people saying if he was wearing a mask in that 9 second clip from two days ago republicans from all across the country would suddenly get vaccinated?mace1229 said:
The criticism, and the reason JB shared the link, was an example of leaders not following their own rules.mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.
I don’t know what else Biden could do, I wouldn’t say he’s not doing enough. But if a mask is required indoors at a restaurant, it does appear he’s not following it this time.
The disingenuous nonsense needs to end. These out of context gotcha clips are all the rage on the right but they don't do anyone any good. They're just fodder to further their culture war bullshit.
Everyone knows what needs to be done to get out of this mess. The fact that 40% of republicans are flat out refusing to do it is the problem. They've been given plenty of proof the vaccines work yet they still refuse. These are also much of the same people who refuse to accept the fact that Donald Trump lost last year. I honestly don't know how it's possible talk any sense to people who clearly do no want to accept the reality of which they are living in.
I just responded by saying I didn’t get that from his comment, he just said Biden wasn’t following the mask mandate for a restaurant. Which appears to be true. I also don’t think a 9 second clip is a big deal. I just don’t see what Biden not wearing a mask has to do with asking trump 50 questions and not acknowledging he wasn't wearing a mask. I think there could be lots of reasonable responses, maybe he got up and forgot to put it on. Happens to me a few times a week at work when leaving my room to use the restroom. Not the end of the world.
Anyway.....I'd still like JB to answer the question of what Biden needs to be doing differently on this subject. I am not holding my breath for an answer though...
am I going to whine about it and stomp my feet and say "then I'm not going to!". No, I'm going to be a fucking adult and do what's right, regardless of the occasional failings of some people in power.
as mace also pointed out, we all fuck up occasionally. sure, sometimes I forget to put my mask on to go from my cubicle to the printer. big deal. I remember most of the time.
If a democrat doesn't wear a seatbelt, are people going to stop wearing their seatbelts? jesus. this is just so fucking dumb.
they take these stupid gotchas as some verification of their beliefs that all this shit is fake. because, sure, making the masses wear masks to the mall is going to bring humanity to its knees where we're all enslaved by the big bad government. it's all a big ruse.Your boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 - 
            
no you don't...JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
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^^^^^This exactlymrussel1 said:
I certainly don't think deaths under Trump would have been zero and no rational person would think such a thing. The issue was Trump's constant, consistent and ongoing downplaying of the pandemic. His refusal to consistently support his health team's social health recommendations and his sidelining of the health officials throughout 2020. The question is, had Trump supported and was aligned with his public health officials, could we have avoided having the death toll that we had? I think the number would have been lower had he led his base. He didn't. The base led him as always.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
That's why tRump gets the blame. Plus the stupid fucker got vaccinated and refused to do PSAs to help spread the word. He has mentioned that he recommends people get vaccinated and received boos at his own stupid rallies so I will give him a small amount of credit.
The only reason any of those repubs admit to getting vaxxed is because internally they know they are losing some elderly vote by acting so stupid.Remember the Thomas Nine !! (10/02/2018)
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The PSA is a great example. Trump, Lindsey, all these jokers are afraid of their base. The base leads them. It became so obvious when you'd hear some nut job thing on talk radio or on Breitbart and within a few days, Trump is talking about it.Gern Blansten said:
^^^^^This exactlymrussel1 said:
I certainly don't think deaths under Trump would have been zero and no rational person would think such a thing. The issue was Trump's constant, consistent and ongoing downplaying of the pandemic. His refusal to consistently support his health team's social health recommendations and his sidelining of the health officials throughout 2020. The question is, had Trump supported and was aligned with his public health officials, could we have avoided having the death toll that we had? I think the number would have been lower had he led his base. He didn't. The base led him as always.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
Yes, that looks inside.JB16057 said:mrussel1 said:
That photo is outside the restaurant. That's in Georgetown and they have palms surrounding the entrance.JB16057 said:
Not only D governors do this, our own president does this: https://news.yahoo.com/video-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlJB16057 said:
Nice pivot to governors like you did? How many R governors have you seen enforce rules upon their constituents but then don't live by those rules themselves? There have been many D governors that made rules for the people but then disregard those rules for themselves.HughFreakingDillon said:
nice pivot.JB16057 said:HughFreakingDillon said:
I was referring to the governors (hence the phrase " killing their own constituents"). I haven't seen any D governors refusing mandates of any kind.JB16057 said:
I know plenty of D's that are refusing to take the vaccine. If you keep calling them R's, they won't be D's for long.HughFreakingDillon said:
come on now. Biden is putting plans in place to protect americans and R's are fighting him every step of the way. so it's joe's fault when R's are killing their own constituents?JB16057 said:When do we get to start attacking Biden for his handling of COVID? We're getting closer everyday to more COVID deaths under Biden than Trump. The big difference is that Biden has a vaccine when Trump did not yet people are still dying. How's that plan working out "buck stops with me" Joe?
Not yet but we do have D Governors claiming to be saviors. https://www.yahoo.com/now/inslee-only-person-saving-lives-200000912.html"There is only one person in the state of Washington who has the capability to save those lives right now, and it happens to be the governor of the state of Washington," Inslee said Wednesday.The video is in the link. Here is a direct link to the video: https://twitter.com/RNCResearch/status/1449578155098968064?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1449578155098968064%7Ctwgr%5E%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fnews.yahoo.com%2Fvideo-biden-walking-ritzy-dc-183400056.htmlThe video looks like it is inside.
So you think Biden is not doing enough to stop the virus? What more do you think he should be doing that would make a difference? I think if you asked all of us in 2020 what more Trump could do, we'd have about 50 answers. So I'm curious where you think Biden needs more aggressive policies.I think that if you'd given Trump those 50 answers, it wouldn't have made a difference just like Biden doing what he can isn't going to make a difference. The difference is that people still blame Trump for the COVID deaths that happened under his admin but Biden does not get that same judgement.Biden has more knowledge and tools to fight COVID than Trump ever did yet more people are dying under Biden.
That's why tRump gets the blame. Plus the stupid fucker got vaccinated and refused to do PSAs to help spread the word. He has mentioned that he recommends people get vaccinated and received boos at his own stupid rallies so I will give him a small amount of credit.
The only reason any of those repubs admit to getting vaxxed is because internally they know they are losing some elderly vote by acting so stupid.0 - 
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immigration/border crisis
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Oh my.What did he run on again? Ending covid and restoring the economy, putting an adult back in the White House.Today’s quinnipiac 10/19 approval poll? 37% approve. No wonder they’re chanting let’s go Brandon even in Rome. This guy isn’t all there, folks. Hes like a house plant.And I’m not one who even believes polls, but they’re good to glance at.Joe Brandon is going down in flames hard, and his hiding from the press and pretending things are fine is what’s causing it to hit rock bottom. in a midterm year when the whitehouse party usually gets a foot to the balls, this one is going to be quite a bashing to this geezer’s shriveled hangskin. Peace out till next time. Happy halloweenI'm like an opening band for your mom.0 - 
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keep telling yourself all of the above. you don't have a fucking clue.RoleModelsinBlood31 said:China virus continues unhindered
immigration/border crisis
inflation piling it on
job creation in the shitter
Supply chain crisis
afghanistan withdrawal probably one of only a few of the biggest us military mistakes many of us will ever see
Oh my.What did he run on again? Ending covid and restoring the economy, putting an adult back in the White House.Today’s quinnipiac 10/19 approval poll? 37% approve. No wonder they’re chanting let’s go Brandon even in Rome. This guy isn’t all there, folks. Hes like a house plant.And I’m not one who even believes polls, but they’re good to glance at.Joe Brandon is going down in flames hard, and his hiding from the press and pretending things are fine is what’s causing it to hit rock bottom. in a midterm year when the whitehouse party usually gets a foot to the balls, this one is going to be quite a bashing to this geezer’s shriveled hangskin. Peace out till next time. Happy halloweenYour boos mean nothing to me, for I have seen what makes you cheer0 - 
            Lol. Or maybe, just maybe, it is you, the clueless. The left are shit. Absolute shit. Proven every single day.
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