#46 President Joe Biden
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mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.
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Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.www.myspace.com0 -
it's a very divisive time. Vaccine mandates are pissing a lot of people off. But it's the right call. The Afghanistan shmoz. I think in hindsight he'll be lauded for it. For both.JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.
Hopefully hindsight is soon enough.By The Time They Figure Out What Went Wrong, We'll Be Sitting On A Beach, Earning Twenty Percent.0 -
That's true but Biden has already dropped 10%. Trump never dropped by that much according to that chart. I'd rather stay consistent than go up and down by 10+%, especially in the first year. We were promised a lot with this president but it looks like we'll have to continue to wait.The Juggler said:
Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.
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We'll see how the vaccine mandate hits his approval rating. https://mynorthwest.com/3179337/spd-third-of-officers-havent-provided-proof-vaccination-deadline/HughFreakingDillon said:
it's a very divisive time. Vaccine mandates are pissing a lot of people off. But it's the right call. The Afghanistan shmoz. I think in hindsight he'll be lauded for it. For both.JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.
Hopefully hindsight is soon enough.This is just one example of how the vaccine mandate isn't looking good because there are many people pushing back. The vaccine mandates are going to hurt every facet of our lives. Every one complains about how they are understaffed and can't find people to work. Wait until after these vaccine mandates come to fruition and many people lose their jobs. The buck stops with Joe and he will get blamed when police, hospitals, everyone, can't fulfill their duties.0 -
I'm not sure that it's going to stay there. Will 30% of the police force really leave their jobs and pensions rather than get a vaccine? I doubt it. I think when push comes to shove, it will be less than 10%. 90+% of the military is already vaccinated and they still have more than two months to go, depending on the branch.JB16057 said:
We'll see how the vaccine mandate hits his approval rating. https://mynorthwest.com/3179337/spd-third-of-officers-havent-provided-proof-vaccination-deadline/HughFreakingDillon said:
it's a very divisive time. Vaccine mandates are pissing a lot of people off. But it's the right call. The Afghanistan shmoz. I think in hindsight he'll be lauded for it. For both.JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.
Hopefully hindsight is soon enough.This is just one example of how the vaccine mandate isn't looking good because there are many people pushing back. The vaccine mandates are going to hurt every facet of our lives. Every one complains about how they are understaffed and can't find people to work. Wait until after these vaccine mandates come to fruition and many people lose their jobs. The buck stops with Joe and he will get blamed when police, hospitals, everyone, can't fulfill their duties.0 -
No it’s better to start at a higher ceiling than to languish in the low to mid 40’s. Trump being in the gutter his entire term meant he had to win over new voters in order to win reelection as opposed to reaching out to previous supporters like every other president had the benefit of. Made things much more difficult. That’s why it was not shocking to rational people that Trump lost last year. Trump supporters, on the other hand, called his polling figures fake news and then were shocked he lost (and most still cannot accept that reality).JB16057 said:
That's true but Biden has already dropped 10%. Trump never dropped by that much according to that chart. I'd rather stay consistent than go up and down by 10+%, especially in the first year. We were promised a lot with this president but it looks like we'll have to continue to wait.The Juggler said:
Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.Also—as 538 shows, it’s normal for large fluctuations within the first year or two of a president’s term.Post edited by The Juggler onwww.myspace.com0 -
538 doesn’t seem overly confident in his #s either:The Juggler said:
No it’s better to start at a higher ceiling than to languish in the low to mid 40’s. Trump being in the gutter his entire term meant he had to win over new voters in order to win reelection as opposed to reaching out to previous supporters like every other president had the benefit of. Made things much more difficult. That’s why it was not shocking to rational people that Trump lost last year. Trump supporters, on the other hand, called his polling figures fake news and then were shocked he lost (and most still cannot accept that reality).JB16057 said:
That's true but Biden has already dropped 10%. Trump never dropped by that much according to that chart. I'd rather stay consistent than go up and down by 10+%, especially in the first year. We were promised a lot with this president but it looks like we'll have to continue to wait.The Juggler said:
Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.Also—as 538 shows, it’s normal for large fluctuations within the first year or two of a president’s term.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bidens-approval-rating-isnt-bouncing-back/
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PJPOWER said:
538 doesn’t seem overly confident in his #s either:The Juggler said:
No it’s better to start at a higher ceiling than to languish in the low to mid 40’s. Trump being in the gutter his entire term meant he had to win over new voters in order to win reelection as opposed to reaching out to previous supporters like every other president had the benefit of. Made things much more difficult. That’s why it was not shocking to rational people that Trump lost last year. Trump supporters, on the other hand, called his polling figures fake news and then were shocked he lost (and most still cannot accept that reality).JB16057 said:
That's true but Biden has already dropped 10%. Trump never dropped by that much according to that chart. I'd rather stay consistent than go up and down by 10+%, especially in the first year. We were promised a lot with this president but it looks like we'll have to continue to wait.The Juggler said:
Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.Also—as 538 shows, it’s normal for large fluctuations within the first year or two of a president’s term.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bidens-approval-rating-isnt-bouncing-back/
Article ends by noting that "Biden has a lower approval rating at this point in his term than all but two presidents (Ford and Trump) since 1945."
Ford was a lackey that pardoned Nixon and Trump was the worst president (or elected official for that matter) ever. But Joe's more popular than they were. So he has that going for him. Which is nice.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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I know, I've read that. Doesn't change anything I said though, when compared to the last president.PJPOWER said:
538 doesn’t seem overly confident in his #s either:The Juggler said:
No it’s better to start at a higher ceiling than to languish in the low to mid 40’s. Trump being in the gutter his entire term meant he had to win over new voters in order to win reelection as opposed to reaching out to previous supporters like every other president had the benefit of. Made things much more difficult. That’s why it was not shocking to rational people that Trump lost last year. Trump supporters, on the other hand, called his polling figures fake news and then were shocked he lost (and most still cannot accept that reality).JB16057 said:
That's true but Biden has already dropped 10%. Trump never dropped by that much according to that chart. I'd rather stay consistent than go up and down by 10+%, especially in the first year. We were promised a lot with this president but it looks like we'll have to continue to wait.The Juggler said:
Better to have dropped from a ceiling in the mid 50's than to hover near all time low territory for four years though. He's got a ceiling of which to try climb back to as opposed to the last guy...JB16057 said:mickeyrat said:JB16057 said:“Battered on trust, doubted on leadership, and challenged on overall competency, President Biden is being hammered on all sides as his approval rating continues its downward slide to a number not seen since the tough scrutiny of the Trump administration,” Quinnipiac University polling analyst Tim Malloy said in a prepared statement.seems overly dramatic."downward slide not seen ......"it was the last president ffs.You're right. Also, this poll was a small amount of people so it isn't anything to get excited over. We'll see what happens in the next few months where the approval rating lands because it is going to be a rough few months with everything going on. If there's one thing that looks certain, his approval rating has been dropping since taking office.Also—as 538 shows, it’s normal for large fluctuations within the first year or two of a president’s term.
https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/bidens-approval-rating-isnt-bouncing-back/www.myspace.com0 -
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The Juggler said:Out’s comment reminds me of the recent “F¥€K Joe Biden” chants at sporting events. NASCAR I’d understand, but at NFL games in NJ? Daughters homecoming game had a moment of silence for the 13 troop casualties in Afghanistan, while I can’t recall any moments of silence in the last 10 years in the war there. No one is saying maybe Bidens bold decision to leave actually saved lives? Can’t believe a HS can be so political.
Killer Mike was on Maher last night complaining about Biden not getting it done and folks in his community are not enthused about voting next year. After 9 months with razor thin margins in Congress? The Rs hate everyone with a D next to their name, and the Dems don’t have the patience nor strength to understand real change takes time and consistent voting, not voting once and expect miracles.
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You realize that many people especially in Killer Mike's community have been voting consistently for years and are just getting tired. Of course I can only speak for myself and say the only party that seems to get anything done is the Rs. Sure I don't like anything they do, but they get it done, then when dems get in power they can't hardly bring any progress back from how far it gets pulled to the right every time Rs are in power. It is hard to be excited and energized to vote for the "at least they aren't Republican's" party. And this is only in the 21 years that I have been able to participate in the process.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:Out’s comment reminds me of the recent “F¥€K Joe Biden” chants at sporting events. NASCAR I’d understand, but at NFL games in NJ? Daughters homecoming game had a moment of silence for the 13 troop casualties in Afghanistan, while I can’t recall any moments of silence in the last 10 years in the war there. No one is saying maybe Bidens bold decision to leave actually saved lives? Can’t believe a HS can be so political.
Killer Mike was on Maher last night complaining about Biden not getting it done and folks in his community are not enthused about voting next year. After 9 months with razor thin margins in Congress? The Rs hate everyone with a D next to their name, and the Dems don’t have the patience nor strength to understand real change takes time and consistent voting, not voting once and expect miracles.
It really smells like American democracy is facing a downward spiral.Scio me nihil scire
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You realize that many people especially in Killer Mike's community have been voting consistently for years and are just getting tired. Of course I can only speak for myself and say the only party that seems to get anything done is the Rs. Sure I don't like anything they do, but they get it done, then when dems get in power they can't hardly bring any progress back from how far it gets pulled to the right every time Rs are in power. It is hard to be excited and energized to vote for the "at least they aren't Republican's" party. And this is only in the 21 years that I have been able to participate in the process.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:Out’s comment reminds me of the recent “F¥€K Joe Biden” chants at sporting events. NASCAR I’d understand, but at NFL games in NJ? Daughters homecoming game had a moment of silence for the 13 troop casualties in Afghanistan, while I can’t recall any moments of silence in the last 10 years in the war there. No one is saying maybe Bidens bold decision to leave actually saved lives? Can’t believe a HS can be so political.
Killer Mike was on Maher last night complaining about Biden not getting it done and folks in his community are not enthused about voting next year. After 9 months with razor thin margins in Congress? The Rs hate everyone with a D next to their name, and the Dems don’t have the patience nor strength to understand real change takes time and consistent voting, not voting once and expect miracles.
It really smells like American democracy is facing a downward spiral.They don’t vote all the time, he is from GA, so they came out in big numbers once. To expect radical change in a 50/50 senate is almost absurd when @ supermajority is needed.And all the Rs get done is tax cuts and abortion judges, all of which can be done with 51 votes.
if Mikes crew took more than five seconds to understand the few words I wrote here, they’d understand real change takes time and dedication to voting.0 -
I feel like this has always been a huge problem with democrats. The good news is they have a bigger tent than the republicans do, but the bad news is that bigger tent means more divisions/squabbling and inevitably not getting much done and losing their majority. Republicans are much more focused.Lerxst1992 said:The Juggler said:Out’s comment reminds me of the recent “F¥€K Joe Biden” chants at sporting events. NASCAR I’d understand, but at NFL games in NJ? Daughters homecoming game had a moment of silence for the 13 troop casualties in Afghanistan, while I can’t recall any moments of silence in the last 10 years in the war there. No one is saying maybe Bidens bold decision to leave actually saved lives? Can’t believe a HS can be so political.
Killer Mike was on Maher last night complaining about Biden not getting it done and folks in his community are not enthused about voting next year. After 9 months with razor thin margins in Congress? The Rs hate everyone with a D next to their name, and the Dems don’t have the patience nor strength to understand real change takes time and consistent voting, not voting once and expect miracles.
It really smells like American democracy is facing a downward spiral.www.myspace.com0 -
Since there was some interest in cherry picking polls that looked bad for Biden recently, there was a CBS poll out over the weekend that showed him at 50%, something his predecessor never achieved, to my knowledge.www.myspace.com0
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Not digging the 538 average anymore?The Juggler said:Since there was some interest in cherry picking polls that looked bad for Biden recently, there was a CBS poll out over the weekend that showed him at 50%, something his predecessor never achieved, to my knowledge.2000: Camden 1, 2003: Philly, State College, Camden 1, MSG 2, Hershey, 2004: Reading, 2005: Philly, 2006: Camden 1, 2, East Rutherford 1, 2007: Lollapalooza, 2008: Camden 1, Washington D.C., MSG 1, 2, 2009: Philly 1, 2, 3, 4, 2010: Bristol, MSG 2, 2011: PJ20 1, 2, 2012: Made In America, 2013: Brooklyn 2, Philly 2, 2014: Denver, 2015: Global Citizen Festival, 2016: Philly 2, Fenway 1, 2018: Fenway 1, 2, 2021: Sea. Hear. Now. 2022: Camden, 2024: Philly 2, 2025: Pittsburgh 1
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No the point is to use the average as opposed to picking and choosing individual polls. Just pointing out that the picking and choosing goes bother ways obviously.Ledbetterman10 said:
Not digging the 538 average anymore?The Juggler said:Since there was some interest in cherry picking polls that looked bad for Biden recently, there was a CBS poll out over the weekend that showed him at 50%, something his predecessor never achieved, to my knowledge.www.myspace.com0
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