2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 

  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited October 2021
    Talk about a complete loser move

    The Weeknd canceled his entire arena tour so he could “go bigger” with a stadium tour instead

    What a slap in the face to ticket holders.  I’ve suddenly lost any and all interest in The Weeknd

    Good news is that frees up a weekend in February.  

    Is the entire touring industry just turning into “let’s savagely make as much $$$ as we can, who gives a shit about the fans and their plans?”

    Maybe it always has been but seems to be worse now than ever 
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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    2012: Atlanta
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    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
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    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 
    👀
    This reads as his vacation days can start to be booked tomorrow.... Or maybe dates are starting to leak? 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    PJNB said:
    I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 
    👀
    This reads as his vacation days can start to be booked tomorrow.... Or maybe dates are starting to leak? 

    This.
  • RiotAct10
    RiotAct10 Ohio Posts: 1,638
    The vaccination being available to children may also have something to do with it. I believe Stone and Mike have kids under 12, could be wrong, but I think they do. Even if the kids aren't going on tour, those guys may not be thrilled about going out on tour and coming home and feeling like they would need to quarantine, or maybe they do want them to come along some too. As a parent of kids under 12, I know I will feel a lot better about getting more back to normal, once I can protect all the members of the household, and the guys in the band may feel similar, which may also be part of why touring continues to be delayed.
    words seem so out of place.

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  • biz999
    biz999 Posts: 174
    Talk about a complete loser move

    The Weeknd canceled his entire arena tour so he could “go bigger” with a stadium tour instead

    What a slap in the face to ticket holders.  I’ve suddenly lost any and all interest in The Weeknd

    Good news is that frees up a weekend in February.  

    Is the entire touring industry just turning into “let’s savagely make as much $$$ as we can, who gives a shit about the fans and their plans?”

    Maybe it always has been but seems to be worse now than ever 
    I LOVE live music and typically if I am free and there is an arena show that looks even semi-interesting, I'll grab a cheap ticket and go check it out. The Weeknd is on my list of most boring shows I've seen. I'm not knocking him, but it really did not click with me.
  • JimmyV
    JimmyV Boston's MetroWest Posts: 19,600
    I thought The Weeknd was a band until he played the Super Bowl and it was just one guy. 
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  • given2fly23
    given2fly23 Evanston, IL Posts: 6,042
    Talk about a complete loser move

    The Weeknd canceled his entire arena tour so he could “go bigger” with a stadium tour instead

    What a slap in the face to ticket holders.  I’ve suddenly lost any and all interest in The Weeknd

    Good news is that frees up a weekend in February.  

    Is the entire touring industry just turning into “let’s savagely make as much $$$ as we can, who gives a shit about the fans and their plans?”

    Maybe it always has been but seems to be worse now than ever 
    I love when artists spin moving to a bigger venue as an "upgrade."  Nope.  As an avid concert-goer, while certain venues are better than other, I can safely generalize that I prefer smaller venues.  And arenas vs. stadiums...no contest.  Stadiums are too big for concerts.


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  • Spurs14
    Spurs14 Buffalo Grove, IL Posts: 330
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
  • jimjam1982
    jimjam1982 AZ Posts: 1,471
    I need to start putting in vacation days for next year starting tomorrow 
    This is the content we are looking for!
  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    PJNB said:
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
    Surprised in what sense?
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
    Surprised in what sense?
    I just assumed that they could back out with covid being an excuse at any point after announcing the tour. It looks like that is not the case for some locations hence the risk of announcing too early.  Lots of bands have been doing this this year. 

    As a fan I want them to announce the dates asap but stuff like this makes sense from a business perspective to not  announce until they are almost certain the shows will happen. 
  • kaw753
    kaw753 Posts: 941
    PJNB said:
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
    Surprised in what sense?
    I just assumed that they could back out with covid being an excuse at any point after announcing the tour. It looks like that is not the case for some locations hence the risk of announcing too early.  Lots of bands have been doing this this year. 

    As a fan I want them to announce the dates asap but stuff like this makes sense from a business perspective to not  announce until they are almost certain the shows will happen. 
    That was probably true before Covid was a known thing. Once it became known, any reasonable insurance company is going to not cover Covid as a reason for cancellation. Either that or the premiums to cover are insane.

    If album sales actually made $$$ like back in the day, I suspect everyone would just be cranking out albums and nobody would be out on tour. Let's face it, a few members of Pearl Jam probably have enough money to not deal with this poop. Especially the ones with young kids at home.

    There are two great festivals in Monterrey and Mexico City in November (Foo Fighters, Tame Impala, Twenty One Pilots). I just got back from Mexico City and it is an amazing place full of tacos. Would highly recommend if you are mildly adventurous. 
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980

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  • 100 Pacer
    100 Pacer Toronto, ON Posts: 9,325
    PJNB said:
    100 Pacer said:
    PJNB said:
    Spurs14 said:
    That was a very good read thanks.

    Surprised that insurance is an issue with the world we live in now but I guess even those companies have had enough and do not want further losses. It actually makes a lot of sense on why PJ is potentially waiting on announcing next years dates now with some uncertainty still out there with covid. 
    Surprised in what sense?
    I just assumed that they could back out with covid being an excuse at any point after announcing the tour. It looks like that is not the case for some locations hence the risk of announcing too early.  Lots of bands have been doing this this year. 

    As a fan I want them to announce the dates asap but stuff like this makes sense from a business perspective to not  announce until they are almost certain the shows will happen. 
    Exactly.
    To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."

    "Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."

    1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore - 2025: Hollywood X2, Atlanta 2, Nashville X2, Pittsburgh X2
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    Talk about a complete loser move

    The Weeknd canceled his entire arena tour so he could “go bigger” with a stadium tour instead

    What a slap in the face to ticket holders.  I’ve suddenly lost any and all interest in The Weeknd

    Good news is that frees up a weekend in February.  

    Is the entire touring industry just turning into “let’s savagely make as much $$$ as we can, who gives a shit about the fans and their plans?”

    Maybe it always has been but seems to be worse now than ever 
    I love when artists spin moving to a bigger venue as an "upgrade."  Nope.  As an avid concert-goer, while certain venues are better than other, I can safely generalize that I prefer smaller venues.  And arenas vs. stadiums...no contest.  Stadiums are too big for concerts.


    Yeah I immediately said to myself “thanks for the refund, I’m good now”

    In the past month, I’ve had The Killers cancel last minute without any band announcement, The Weeknd cancel to “upgrade” and my favorite band going on month 20 of silence regarding multiple shows

    Thank God for TwentyOne Pilots to keep my faith alive.  Going to the Boston show this weekend and Columbus show the next.
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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    Probably way less chance of needing to cancel an outdoor stadium show.  Might be a smart move by The Weeknd.  
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  • on2legs said:
    Probably way less chance of needing to cancel an outdoor stadium show.  Might be a smart move by The Weeknd.  
    He had too many weeknights on the indoor tour.  
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