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  • JojoRice
    JojoRice Kennesaw, GA Posts: 4,554
    My late winter/Spring calendar is starting to fill up as well.  Really need these dates to be announced soon. Would hate to have to dump these tickets that I've had for 2 years.  I know the band works at their own pace and that's fine.  However, we are under a different set of circumstances and it would be nice to have a bit more communication especially when so many other events have started back up. 
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    frick, Crown Lands just cancelled the western canadian leg of their tour because of covid cases in AB/SK; venue here holds vaxxed only 300 people max. 

    don't expect PJ to announce any time soon. 
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    It's been said before, but there is a LOT of flight credit that is due to expire in the not too distant future for many of us.  If we know it can be used to get to these rescheduled shows, great.  If not, it needs to get used elsewhere.  Advanced notification would be nice for that reason alone.
  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    bbiggs said:
    It's been said before, but there is a LOT of flight credit that is due to expire in the not too distant future for many of us.  If we know it can be used to get to these rescheduled shows, great.  If not, it needs to get used elsewhere.  Advanced notification would be nice for that reason alone.
    +1 on that. 
  • chiefnjk
    chiefnjk Posts: 305
    Like others have said, the price of a ticket on the secondary market (at least for lots of events) seems way down. It could turn out that people still holding tickets from the original dates paid a premium for them. Throw those folks a bone and announce the dates so people can make plans. Think of the fan that can't go to the rescheduled date because of a last-minute announcement--they basically gave PJ an interest free loan (during a pandemic) for nothing. For these reasons, I think (or at least hope) an announcement has to be coming shortly. 
  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    It is easy to say that Pearl Jam does things their way and they always have in regards to tour announcements.  That's fair.  Pearl Jam fans have also never been asked to sit on tickets (paid for) for 2+ years while having flight credit in limbo, cash tied up and vacation planning on hold.  We've adapted, given the circumstances, and are happy to do so.  Pearl Jam adapting a bit in this case would be appreciated.  Let's get more advanced notice on the rescheduled dates please.  My final $.02.
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    bbiggs said:
    It is easy to say that Pearl Jam does things their way and they always have in regards to tour announcements.  That's fair.  Pearl Jam fans have also never been asked to sit on tickets (paid for) for 2+ years while having flight credit in limbo, cash tied up and vacation planning on hold.  We've adapted, given the circumstances, and are happy to do so.  Pearl Jam adapting a bit in this case would be appreciated.  Let's get more advanced notice on the rescheduled dates please.  My final $.02.
    yeah, as a family that doesn't travel much due to financial constraints, the Ottawa show was going to be epic. And now it's in limbo. Sure, I"ll go to Seattle to see Jerry Cantrell instead, which will be cooler than cool, but PJ is my first choice by far. 
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  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    bbiggs said:
    It is easy to say that Pearl Jam does things their way and they always have in regards to tour announcements.  That's fair.  Pearl Jam fans have also never been asked to sit on tickets (paid for) for 2+ years while having flight credit in limbo, cash tied up and vacation planning on hold.  We've adapted, given the circumstances, and are happy to do so.  Pearl Jam adapting a bit in this case would be appreciated.  Let's get more advanced notice on the rescheduled dates please.  My final $.02.
    Everything you said is true and I agree with it.

     But what if there will be additional dates added to what is already on hold as many are speculating?  I’m guessing that the band is thinking that holding off on the announcement of the tour would prevent people from laying out more cash for another tour that might not happen if things take a turn for the worse. 
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  • bbiggs
    bbiggs Posts: 6,964
    on2legs said:
    bbiggs said:
    It is easy to say that Pearl Jam does things their way and they always have in regards to tour announcements.  That's fair.  Pearl Jam fans have also never been asked to sit on tickets (paid for) for 2+ years while having flight credit in limbo, cash tied up and vacation planning on hold.  We've adapted, given the circumstances, and are happy to do so.  Pearl Jam adapting a bit in this case would be appreciated.  Let's get more advanced notice on the rescheduled dates please.  My final $.02.
    Everything you said is true and I agree with it.

     But what if there will be additional dates added to what is already on hold as many are speculating?  I’m guessing that the band is thinking that holding off on the announcement of the tour would prevent people from laying out more cash for another tour that might not happen if things take a turn for the worse. 
    Good point and that can throw a curve ball into it.  My assumption was that they'd announce the rescheduled dates and then announce a second leg (previously speculated Fall leg of 2020) at a later point.  You know what they say about assuming though, right?  ;)  Joking aside, they could avoid this potential issue by focusing on the rescheduled shows first without adding any into that leg.  From there, they can announce a second leg with however much lead time they want and no one could complain.

  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,007
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
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  • Zod
    Zod Posts: 10,907
    I tend to be in the.. it's probably best to hold off for a bit.  Not forever.. but the bigger the gap between the announcement date and the concert dates the higher the odds that something Covid related derails it.   It does seem that a fair amount of the recent tours had really short lead times.  Things are ok, let's strike right now while the gettin's good kind of thing.

    I don't think I need a lot of lead time to plan a trip to Oakland.   If the tour is in March/April, being announced in Jan would be ok.
  • RatherStarved
    RatherStarved Posts: 5,780
    Zod said:
    I tend to be in the.. it's probably best to hold off for a bit.  Not forever.. but the bigger the gap between the announcement date and the concert dates the higher the odds that something Covid related derails it.   It does seem that a fair amount of the recent tours had really short lead times.  Things are ok, let's strike right now while the gettin's good kind of thing.

    I don't think I need a lot of lead time to plan a trip to Oakland.   If the tour is in March/April, being announced in Jan would be ok.
    The odds of a Covid outbreak in March are the same whether the March shows are announced now or in February.  Give us the dates already!
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  • lmckenney24
    lmckenney24 Posts: 2,101
    edited October 2021
    Zod said:
    I tend to be in the.. it's probably best to hold off for a bit.  Not forever.. but the bigger the gap between the announcement date and the concert dates the higher the odds that something Covid related derails it.   It does seem that a fair amount of the recent tours had really short lead times.  Things are ok, let's strike right now while the gettin's good kind of thing.

    I don't think I need a lot of lead time to plan a trip to Oakland.   If the tour is in March/April, being announced in Jan would be ok.
    I think most would agree a January announcement for March/April dates are more than feasible, me included.

    I also think the majority would at least like an update on whether the announcement will be in 2021 or 2022. That's asking a lot, I know.

    But, I know a lot of folks have to use vouchers by December. So, if they announced "We look forward to announcing the NA tour dates in early 2022", that opens up those vouchers for people to use on something else. 
    Post edited by lmckenney24 on
  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    edited October 2021
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone

    Baltimore and MSG will still be incredibly difficult tickets, no doubt.  But I am expecting some empty arenas along the way (STL, OKC)

    Its not IMPOSSIBLE for PJ to have a weak crowd.  Tulsa 2014 had full upper level sections completely empty (not behind the stage either)
    Post edited by Weston1283 on
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Zod said:
    I tend to be in the.. it's probably best to hold off for a bit.  Not forever.. but the bigger the gap between the announcement date and the concert dates the higher the odds that something Covid related derails it.   It does seem that a fair amount of the recent tours had really short lead times.  Things are ok, let's strike right now while the gettin's good kind of thing.

    I don't think I need a lot of lead time to plan a trip to Oakland.   If the tour is in March/April, being announced in Jan would be ok.
    What about all of those out there that have credits expiring or vacation to book? Even if an early announcement does not benefit you would it not be great for others?
  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Weston1283 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone
    I think the manager for the QC show said they have over 10k tickets to sell.
  • on2legs
    on2legs Posts: 15,980
    PJNB said:
    Weston1283 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone
    I think the manager for the QC show said they have over 10k tickets to sell.
    Might be a good reason to renew my passport! 
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  • Weston1283
    Weston1283 Fredericksburg, VA Posts: 5,019
    PJNB said:
    Weston1283 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone
    I think the manager for the QC show said they have over 10k tickets to sell.
    So almost the entire arena minus the pit lol
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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,528
    PJNB said:
    Weston1283 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone
    I think the manager for the QC show said they have over 10k tickets to sell.
    was thinking of hitting this show. might have to think about it again if/when it gets announced. 
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  • PJNB
    PJNB Posts: 13,890
    Weston1283 said:
    PJNB said:
    Weston1283 said:
    SVRDhand13 said:
    jimjam1982 said:
    It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

    Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  
    I'm speculating but I disagree and think the wait has everything to do with COVID.  PJ already sold out all these shows- they're not holding back because of sports and other concerts.  
    How many are still sold out though?  The marketplace, whenever it goes live again, is going to have TONS of tickets.

    I've personally refunded 6 of my 8 shows at this point and I cant be alone
    I think the manager for the QC show said they have over 10k tickets to sell.
    So almost the entire arena minus the pit lol
    It is a 19k plus for concerts so close to half and the back was not sold out prepandemic

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