2022 North American rumour thread take 2

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan

It is my understanding that Ohana has a strict strict curfew. Even if they wanted to break the curfew they aren’t allowed to even if they paid 

PJNB

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

It is my understanding that Ohana has a strict strict curfew. Even if they wanted to break the curfew they aren’t allowed to even if they paid 

Yes there is. The curfew even changed from one weekend to the next. Everyone was aware of the curfew and if the band wanted to play a longer set they would have just came out earlier as I mentioned. I am not saying shorter sets will be the norm going forward just that things do seem to be trending that way. Hope I am wrong but they are all getting older in age so I would not be totally surprised if it happens. 

JeBurkhardt

LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:

It is my understanding that Ohana has a strict strict curfew. Even if they wanted to break the curfew they aren’t allowed to even if they paid 

The web page for Doheny State park lists after 10 pm as quiet hours and I imagine the residents that live around there are probably not real open to loud music late into the night. I would have loved for them to keep playing, but angry State officials and residents is a good recipe for cancelling future events.  

tdawe

Weston1283 said:

I’ve started to book weekends with other plans/concerts for Feb, March and April.  It’s frustrating but it is what it is.  I’ve officially lost the desire to HAVE to attend every show.  I’ll make a few of them that I can and that’ll be that.  

How many more times do I need to hear all of Gigaton and Ten live again anyway?

The delay isn’t related to Covid at this point, it can’t be.  They’re waiting for the right time to make some fancy social media post to try and appeal to sell tickets.  With how weak the ticket sales were for Ohana and SHN, I don’t anticipate a problem for anyone getting tickets  besides MSG, Baltimore and Toronto.  

They have cared so much more about catering towards casual fans instead of 10c members over the last few years that they have already lost a significant amount of internal interest in my opinion. A lot of the crazies, including myself, have stepped back.

Hard disagree. 

Eddie himself acknowledged at SHN how they (along with me and most of the people I know) believed six months ago that we’d be largely in the clear by now. Back in the spring, when other bands were announcing indoor fall tours, there were plenty of people around here clamoring for PJ to do the same. In retrospect it seems clear (to me at least, I know some people probably disagree) that holding off was the right move. 

You could look at a COVID case chart right now, point to the line plunging downward on the far right side, and say “see, the Delta wave is ending, time to get back to normal!” Or you could look at the whole chart and conclude that there’s simply no way to predict what the situation will be a few months or even weeks from now. 

When they reschedule those spring 2020 dates, the announcement will be on relatively short notice. That’s going to be inconvenient for some people, including people who are planning on traveling or need to take off work. And that sucks, but it’s just too difficult to make plans too far in the future right now. 

bbiggs

Ryan said:

If the plan is still Mar/Apr 2022 for postponed shows, I think we could be waiting until January for an announcement.  The 2020 wasn’t announced until January 13 or something like that.
It’s evident PJ doesn’t want to be in a position to have to reschedule multiple times depending on how things go with the pandemic.  Maybe they want to see how this fall concert season goes with shows happening in arenas, and how the first couple months of the NHL and NBA go.

It’s a pain having to wait to plan travel but I understand why they’re playing it ultra-safe.  Refunds are available for those who don’t want to hang onto tickets.

I realize the past is not necessarily an indicator of the future as it relates to Covid, but I think we have a large enough sample size of events being held at indoor arenas without incident (NBA, NHL, concerts) at this point. 

jimjam1982

It's not covid related delay. It's just timing the announcement.  All major sports are pumping right along and so are other concerts. The band has seen the after effects of the festivals now. Which turned out to be nothing of consequence. 

Selfishly, it would be nice to know this month. I have to decide what to do with 80 hours of PTO by november 1. It's frustrating seeing new events rolling out and this being suppressed.  

given2fly23

You would think it would be race for bands to announce and sell 2022 shows ASAP.  Of course, the caveat being that PJ has shows to play that have already been sold (other than refunded tickets).  With the few bands remaining in the 90s rock genre announcing and selling massive tours (Tool, RHCP, RATM), I would hope we get some news soon.  As we can see in this thread, fans are already allocating their time and funds elsewhere.

ddeschler

As far as set times, they hadn't played shows in 3 yrs.  Probably wanted to "ease" back in with a 2 hr show rather than 3 hr shows.  Hard to go from the couch to a 3 hr show, esp. in your 50s.

on2legs

My guess is that we will be seeing shorter shows if they do a full proper tour.  Somewhere around 2.5 hrs.  

HailHailVitalogy

Little off topic, but every single event I have attended or wanted to attend since May has had ticket prices completely drop a week or less before the event date. I’m going to the Rangers/Caps game tonight. Caps home opener. Figured home opener demand would be crazy and paid $100 for a seat. Now a seat in my row is $50 through Ticketmaster’s verified resale. 

HailHailVitalogy

And a note on shorter shows. I’m not worried, those were festivals. I don’t think we get 3 hours a night anymore but 2.5 should be the norm. Bruce was putting on 3.5-4 hour shows a couple years ago at his age.
However, I am worried about the diversity of setlists, and if that becomes a thing I may get rid of some shows out of the 15 I have between USA and Europe. I just can’t get into Small Town, Betterman, Corduroy, or Alive anymore. That said, I could get down with Even Flow any night and Daughter with a good tag. I know Ed can’t sing certain songs anymore but let’s get some other shit going. 2009/2010 was my favorite tour because you had no idea what was coming on any given night, and Ed could still scream or hit a high note at any time.

on2legs

HailHailVitalogy said:

And a note on shorter shows. I’m not worried, those were festivals. I don’t think we get 3 hours a night anymore but 2.5 should be the norm. Bruce was putting on 3.5-4 hour shows a couple years ago at his age.
However, I am worried about the diversity of setlists, and if that becomes a thing I may get rid of some shows out of the 15 I have between USA and Europe. I just can’t get into Small Town, Betterman, Corduroy, or Alive anymore. That said, I could get down with Even Flow any night and Daughter with a good tag. I know Ed can’t sing certain songs anymore but let’s get some other shit going. 2009/2010 was my favorite tour because you had no idea what was coming on any given night, and Ed could still scream or hit a high note at any time.

I’d be way happier with shorter, more diverse setlists. 

Weston1283

I definitely know that I'm just a guy online who has no control over the situation and that whatever I say on here will have zero impact on what the band actually does.  I was just expressing the way I feel regarding what I feel is an excessive delay at this point, and it seems I am not alone.  And yes, I have started to allocate some weekends and funds elsewhere in terms of events and concerts, which is completely fine.  

ComeToTX

I think we’re gonna see a lot of empty seats in some of these arenas. 

JimmyV

If the new dates are set and locked down then they should be announced. Full stop. Let people make their decisions and their plans, and if things need to get reshuffled down the road then so be it. We are not in the near future going to eliminate that risk. 

Go Animal

ComeToTX said:

I think we’re gonna see a lot of empty seats in some of these arenas. 

Honestly? I'd be good with a few empty seats. But that's me.

Btw, next year would be a great year for them to come to Texas. And help register voters to defeat those morons Abbott & Cruz ;-)

Spartanacus

I also expected at least an update (even if no hard dates were announced) soon after Ohana ended.  Let's go PJ.  People have had big money tied up for going on two years now.  What's the dillio? 

Also of note, I just saw that the date to request refunds is 4/1/22.  I wonder if that is for the European tour or both?

ComeToTX

Go Animal said:

ComeToTX said:

I think we’re gonna see a lot of empty seats in some of these arenas. 

Honestly? I'd be good with a few empty seats. But that's me.

Btw, next year would be a great year for them to come to Texas. And help register voters to defeat those morons Abbott & Cruz ;-)

I’d be all for that!

Go Animal

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chiefnjk

If the NA dates are already rescheduled, just announce them. People understand the situation/dates could change later on due to COVID. But there's simply no reason to hold off on announcement now.