2022 North American rumour thread take 2

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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    edited October 2021
    PJNB said:
    If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.
    Yes, MSG Philly etc would sell out as they always do.   I’m more so thinking of a scenario where OKC or St Louis happen on a Wednesday night in March with only 1-2 months notice….  Going to be a lot of empty seats in that one

    Side note, headed to my second arena show tonight since things picked back up again

    TwentyOnePilots at TD Garden, should be a great one
     

    I think you are right if they do not give us more time this go around demand will be less for sure. The rush of the initial sale will be what it is though and if they can not sell out lets say Denver or Ottawa right away I really wonder how many sales they get with an extra month or two notice than we usually get. Are we talking hundreds more? Tens more? Thousands more? I think they do what is right business wise (insurance policy) and covid policy wise and announce when it makes sense for them to do so. I do not see them being rushed with the announcement to get more seat sales but that is just a guess on my part. 
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.  

    I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas.  There will be.  Not everywhere, but there will be some.  QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
    I think we have different definitions of empty. 

    Who said 10k tickets to sell? Sounds like pure speculation to me (which is all of this thread). 
    https://community.pearljam.com/discussion/comment/7365886#Comment_7365880

    Here is the link to the thread with the Tremblay interview. He talks about over half the arena still needs to sell and that was back in June. Gotta be more now that refunded I would imagine. 10K tickets are still sold after refunds. 
  • The leafs are selling half packs. I’ve never seen that before. I was at the home opener and it wasn’t sold out but still pretty full. I think raptors might be having a similar issue but too early to tell since they’ve only had one game at home. 
  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,886
    JojoRice said:
    Short South American tour in September followed by some US dates in Oct/Nov? 
    If they really are playing a SA leg in the Fall, and considering we havent even heard about the first leg of NA Tour.... I think whats more realistic would be

    Expanded NA tour Feb/March/April (big tour)
    Europe June/July
    Ballparks August (5-7 shows Max)
    SA September (5-7 shows, mostly festivals)
    And maybe AUS in Dec/Jan

    I would be willing to bet alot of money that they wont play 4 full legs of shows in a 1 year period.  
    That's a really ambitious projection on your part for a band that hasn't shown a lot of touring energy the past several years.

    I mean, I hope they surprise the lot of us. At the same time, I don't count on them to do it anymore.

    It's easily explainable:
    2021 - COVID
    2020 - COVID
    2019 - Studio time with plans to "gig a ton" in 2020.
    2018 - Tour in three continents with plans to release an album which got delayed.
    2017 - Not much
    2016 - Tour like 2018, but more USA dates...and even Canada too.
    2015 - Not much

    If that 2018 album wasn't delayed and if no COVID, things look a lot different.

    2021 - ??
    2020 - Tour?
    2019 - Tour
    2018 - South America and Europe tour...with a new album.
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  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,886
    Anyone think there’s anything to the order of shows on Ticketmaster?

    Hamilton
    Ottawa
    Baltimore 
    New York
    Quebec
    St Louis
    Nashville
    Phoenix
    LA
    LA
    OKC
    Denver
    SD
    Toronto 

    [Oakland shows listed randomly for later on]

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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

    What an absolutely incredible performance last night 


    2010: Cleveland
    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
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  • drakeheuer14drakeheuer14 Posts: 4,466
    edited October 2021
    ^dude I can’t wait for the Atlanta run soon
    Post edited by drakeheuer14 on
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  • bootlegger10bootlegger10 Posts: 15,917
    edited October 2021
    SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

    What an absolutely incredible performance last night 


    I would hope a band that has been around 30 years isn't the best touring act out there right now.  
  • SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

    What an absolutely incredible performance last night 


    I would hope a band that has been around 30 years isn't the best touring act out there right now.  
    31.  And they’re the best for my money.  With the exception that, you know, they’re not actually touring.  
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  • demetriosdemetrios Posts: 92,340
    PJNB said:
    Anyone think there’s anything to the order of shows on Ticketmaster?

    Hamilton
    Ottawa
    Baltimore 
    New York
    Quebec
    St Louis
    Nashville
    Phoenix
    LA
    LA
    OKC
    Denver
    SD
    Toronto 

    [Oakland shows listed randomly for later on]
    Not a chance. 

    Yeah those Canadian dates if true would be messed up;
  • demetrios said:
    PJNB said:
    Anyone think there’s anything to the order of shows on Ticketmaster?

    Hamilton
    Ottawa
    Baltimore 
    New York
    Quebec
    St Louis
    Nashville
    Phoenix
    LA
    LA
    OKC
    Denver
    SD
    Toronto 

    [Oakland shows listed randomly for later on]
    Not a chance. 

    Yeah those Canadian dates if true would be messed up;
    While unlikely, I could see them hitting the first 3 in the order shown even though there’s an extra border but Toronto at the end doesn’t make sense.  Anyway, we need an update! 
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • 100 Pacer100 Pacer Posts: 8,929
    I would have Hamilton start and QC, Ottawa, and Toronto wrap things up. 
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  • 3days3days Posts: 1,158
    There were some ballpark rumors floating around. Was there anything credible, or any inside information to those?
  • CO278952CO278952 Posts: 1,351
    3days said:
    There were some ballpark rumors lfloating around. Was there anything credible, or any inside information to those?
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  • joseph33joseph33 Posts: 1,247
    My guess will be spring of 2022. East Coast.
  • smaksmak Posts: 232
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
  • uglybabouglybabo Posts: 523
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 


  • Lost In OhioLost In Ohio Posts: 6,886
    uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
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  • PJNBPJNB Posts: 13,434
    uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
    I would guess they would much rather the certainty of the regular season schedule vs the randomness of the playoffs. TO 2016 worked out ok since it was the end of the tour and only moved 1 day but watching scoreboards and series lengths is not ideal as a travelling fan.  
  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    PJNB said:
    uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
    I would guess they would much rather the certainty of the regular season schedule vs the randomness of the playoffs. TO 2016 worked out ok since it was the end of the tour and only moved 1 day but watching scoreboards and series lengths is not ideal as a travelling fan.  
    The great TBD debacle of 2010 that turned Boston 2 into Newark should never be repeated. 
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  • uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
    Looks like plenty of availability in Toronto in April/May based on the Leafs and Raptors first few games.
    PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024:  Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
     
    EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.

    Gutted:  London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
  • Manu117Manu117 Posts: 109
    SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

    What an absolutely incredible performance last night 


    I saw them years ago (when they were first getting noticed) and really wasn't impressed. When I see a live show, I want to see the music played, not just a drummer and a singer running around to some backing tracks. 
  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848
    Manu117 said:
    SHN and Ohana Encore were great, but after last night, TwentyOnePilots has solidified themselves as, in my opinion, the best live act in music right now

    What an absolutely incredible performance last night 


    I saw them years ago (when they were first getting noticed) and really wasn't impressed. When I see a live show, I want to see the music played, not just a drummer and a singer running around to some backing tracks. 
    I get that.  I’ve seen them many times since 2011 and this was by far the best performance.  

    I think they cut a lot of the backing tracks out as they have now incorporated a touring band to back them up.  Also, Tyler has really expanded his use of instruments and has developed excellent control of his vocals since I saw them last in 2016. 
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    2012: Atlanta
    2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
    2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
    2023: St. Paul II
    2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
  • JimmyV said:
    PJNB said:
    uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
    I would guess they would much rather the certainty of the regular season schedule vs the randomness of the playoffs. TO 2016 worked out ok since it was the end of the tour and only moved 1 day but watching scoreboards and series lengths is not ideal as a travelling fan.  
    The great TBD debacle of 2010 that turned Boston 2 into Newark should never be repeated. 
    I had a friend with connections at TD and even he didn't know what was going for a long time. Sounds like the band tried hard to get a 2nd night locked in. They more than made up for it. Deep cuts, great setlist. Easily in my top 5 shows 
  • SVRDhand13SVRDhand13 Posts: 26,162
    JimmyV said:
    PJNB said:
    uglybabo said:
    smak said:
    One of the things they might be considering is trying to make the new shows very close to the timing of the old shows.

    If they change up the days of the week, a lot of people might not be able to go if they're travelling.  
    This won’t be possible. Finding dates in between other concerts, the NBA and NHL the order of the cities won’t be the same let alone the days of the week. 



    There could be more availability in April/May once playoffs begin.
    I would guess they would much rather the certainty of the regular season schedule vs the randomness of the playoffs. TO 2016 worked out ok since it was the end of the tour and only moved 1 day but watching scoreboards and series lengths is not ideal as a travelling fan.  
    The great TBD debacle of 2010 that turned Boston 2 into Newark should never be repeated. 
    I had a friend with connections at TD and even he didn't know what was going for a long time. Sounds like the band tried hard to get a 2nd night locked in. They more than made up for it. Deep cuts, great setlist. Easily in my top 5 shows 
    Newark wasn’t too shabby either 
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  • Weston1283Weston1283 Posts: 4,848


    Just landed a pair for the just announced surprise Foo Fighters show in Cleveland on Thursday!!!
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    2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
    2015: New York City
    2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
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    2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
    2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
    2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
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    Just landed a pair for the just announced surprise Foo Fighters show in Cleveland on Thursday!!!

    Sweet score!!!
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  • JojoRiceJojoRice Posts: 4,267
    Cmon PJ!!!  Release the US dates!!  
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  • JimmyVJimmyV Posts: 19,163
    I'm torn between thinking what the Foo are doing is cool and still somehow being annoyed every time I see Dave Grohl. 
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