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At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
And if anything, the fan-to-fan exchange would open back up to help plan ahead. If people cannot travel for any reason (pandemic, new dates don’t work, etc), fans have a way to unload tickets and others don’t pay marked up prices.
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
Not too many venues can sell out over four nights. Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
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I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
Not too many venues can sell out over four nights. Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.
When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there, I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast. However this will make bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?”
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
Not too many venues can sell out over four nights. Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.
When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there, I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast. However this will make bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?”
I’ll save your spot.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
Not too many venues can sell out over four nights. Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.
When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there, I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast. However this will make bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?”
I’ll save your spot.
Deal
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I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
I usually take my kids to 3 or 4 NBA games every year. We’re all vaccinated but we’re going to skip it this year. Just rather be on the safe side and the NBA will be there next year. Pearl Jam is a different story. I will attend if the shows go forward.
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At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
Very, very good point.
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At some point they have to realize they can’t control everything and need to take a leap of faith and announce the dates. If the borders are closed, so be it. Serving the local fans might do them some good. If they wait too long, there’s going to be some very empty arenas anyway, as fans allocate funds and travel to other shows. If you’re not vaccinated by now, that’s on you. The rest of us are ready to move forward.
There is not going to be "very empty arenas" whenever they decide to play.
I don’t think so either but I also thought encore would sell out with ease.
Not too many venues can sell out over four nights. Night one of the spectrum run wasn’t sold out.
When 2020 are rescheduled and I arrive for the Hamilton show to find out I’m the only one there, I’m pretty sure I will still have a blast. However this will make bathroom breaks a little awkward……” hey Mike can you hold that guitar solo until I get back?”
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
I wonder if there’s a certain % of people who are just not interested in going to large events any more, not so much because of safety, but because they’ve adjusted to living without it and are content not to go back, having found other ways to spend their time and money.
I usually take my kids to 3 or 4 NBA games every year. We’re all vaccinated but we’re going to skip it this year. Just rather be on the safe side and the NBA will be there next year. Pearl Jam is a different story. I will attend if the shows go forward.
100% same boat, just a different NBA home team
I will add that I’ll be trying for a suite or something if they play arenas. Not doing GA
I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.
I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas. There will be. Not everywhere, but there will be some. QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
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I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.
I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas. There will be. Not everywhere, but there will be some. QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
The more likely prediction instead of empty is probably not a sellout. I got shut out of tickets to 3 different shows that I was interested in going to during the lottery. I think there will be a bunch of fans who got shutout the first time who would snap up a lot of the refunded tickets. But maybe not quite a sellout everywhere. I just hope Ticketmaster puts those tickets into the exchange as promised and we don’t see the best seats filtered to scalpers.
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I refunded the last of my shows besides Baltimore the other day.
I disagree with whoever said there wont be empty arenas. There will be. Not everywhere, but there will be some. QBC wasn’t even sold out before the pandemic, and now with mention of 10k+ seats to sell, you don’t think that show will be empty?
I think we have different definitions of empty.
Who said 10k tickets to sell? Sounds like pure speculation to me (which is all of this thread).
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
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I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.
post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.
When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour
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I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.
post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.
When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour
I don’t know if you’re right, but I hope they think you are, so they can get on with the dates already. By all means they are free to say these are the dates pending a final safety decision in February or whatever. But it’s time.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Not only that, but people are being more selective with where and how they spend their extra cash.
post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.
When I say “empty” I obviously don’t mean that in the literal sense. But we’re entering November… every day they wait at this point is only negatively affecting ticket sales and turnout for a Spring tour
I hear you. I just think PJ demand beats most acts and definitely sports. Look at SHN, night 1 was packed. Night 2 had a major drop off.
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.
Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2 2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.
Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.
That's a great point actually... I lived about an hour commute from Toronto but worked downtown, and if I wanted to catch a game or concert, I would just opt for a hotel that night, easy. Probably did it once a month.
I’ve been following the secondary market for the Bruins and Celtics; as I do in any “normal” year. (I love just outside Boston.). Never, ever have I seen it this low. Combination of covid caution, proof of vax/negative test, and Boston also requires masks. But wow; didn’t think it’d be as low as it is.
The Leafs haven't sold out a single one of their four home games this season. Obviously that's multifactoral - ticket prices and the hangover from last year's playoffs aren't helping - but for a team that had a decades-long sellout streak it's still noteworthy. A lot of people are still really freaked out about being around other people.
Keep in mind many people that go to weeknight games in Toronto work downtown. Many of those are still working from home which in many cases is a 60-90 minute commute.
Toronto Blue Jay’s had the same problem.
That's a great point actually... I lived about an hour commute from Toronto but worked downtown, and if I wanted to catch a game or concert, I would just opt for a hotel that night, easy. Probably did it once a month.
All points are good. I would add, specific to the Leafs, that sports are really selling hope and after all the past failures it is difficult to hold onto the hope even though they have some talented forwards.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.
If they do MSG X 4 March 8-13 timeframe do people think all 4 of those shows would not sell out? I think they would. I also think the arenas that sold out last year will sell out again and the ones that do not are going to have a lot of empty seats on the back of the stage. QC front seats were sold out but back there were a ton left.
Yes, MSG Philly etc would sell out as they always do. I’m more so thinking of a scenario where OKC or St Louis happen on a Wednesday night in March with only 1-2 months notice…. Going to be a lot of empty seats in that one
Side note, headed to my second arena show tonight since things picked back up again
TwentyOnePilots at TD Garden, should be a great one
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2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II 2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
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"Me knowing the truth, I can not concur."
1996: Toronto - 1998: Chicago, Montreal, Barrie - 2000: Montreal, Toronto - 2002: Seattle X2 (Key Arena) - 2003: Cleveland, Buffalo, Toronto, Montreal, Seattle (Benaroya Hall) - 2004: Reading, Toledo, Grand Rapids - 2005: Kitchener, London, Hamilton, Montreal, Ottawa, Toronto, Quebec City - 2006: Toronto X2, Albany, Hartford, Grand Rapids, Cleveland - 2007: Chicago (Vic Theatre) - 2008: NYC X2, Hartford, Mansfield X2 - 2009: Toronto, Chicago X2, Seattle X2, Philadelphia X4 - 2010: Columbus, Noblesville, Cleveland, Buffalo, Hartford - 2011: Montreal, Toronto X2, Ottawa, Hamilton - 2012: Missoula - 2013: London, Chicago, Buffalo, Hartford - 2014: Detroit, Moline - 2015: NYC (Global Citizen Festival) - 2016: Greenville, Toronto X2, Chicago 1 - 2017: Brooklyn (RRHOF Induction) - 2018: Chicago 1, Boston 1 - 2022: Fresno, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto, NYC, Camden - 2023: St. Paul X2, Austin X2 - 2024: Vancouver X2, Portland, Sacramento, Missoula, Noblesville, Philadelphia X2, Baltimore
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
Mansfield '08
Hartford '10
Worcester, Hartford '13
Global Citizen, NY '15
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Mansfield '08
Hartford '10
Worcester, Hartford '13
Global Citizen, NY '15
I will add that I’ll be trying for a suite or something if they play arenas. Not doing GA
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
post pandemic travel requires more planning and time.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2010: Newark 5/18 MSG 5/20-21 2011: PJ20 9/3-4 2012: Made In America 9/2
2013: Brooklyn 10/18-19 Philly 10/21-22 Hartford 10/25 2014: ACL10/12
2015: NYC 9/23 2016: Tampa 4/11 Philly 4/28-29 MSG 5/1-2 Fenway 8/5+8/7
2017: RRHoF 4/7 2018: Fenway 9/2+9/4 2021: Sea Hear Now 9/18
2022: MSG 9/11 2024: MSG 9/3-4 Philly 9/7+9/9 Fenway 9/15+9/17
2025: Pittsburgh 5/16+5/18
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....Las Vegas N1, Las Vegas N2, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Boston N1, Boston N2
2025.....????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
TwentyOnePilots at TD Garden, should be a great one
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
2024: Las Vegas I / Las Vegas II / New York City I / New York City II / Philly I / Philly II / Baltimore