The elephant in the room....Covid and these Pearl Jam shows
Well,30,000 of you folks showed up in Jersey and rocked out to Pearl Jam. Pretty sure that's the 1st time any of you have gathered in a setting like that in quite some time.
For the folks who were a the show, did you feel safe? Did you even attempt to somewhat distance? Did you say fuck it, and get as close to the stage as possible? Were the folks checking vaccine cards doing there jobs, thoroughly checking cards and matching ID'S? Or were they just glancing and letting you in? I would be willing to guess that only 1% of you folks were wearing a mask.
I realize everyone there was vaccinated, or had a negative covid test, but personally I am not quite sure I am ready to put myself in that situation.
For those who were there. Did you just say fuck the delta variant, I'm vaccinated, covid wont kill me, I am going on with my life. 4 days later are you still ok with your decision to go to the show? Did any of you wake up the next day and maybe feel a little, I don't know, maybe regret?, for putting yourself in a mass crowd of 30,000 people?
Till there aint nothing left worth taking away from me.....
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They were thorough when checking proof of vax and ID's for folks going in before me that I could see. It was not rushed, but I can't speak for every single person.
I was packed in a sea of people relatively close as I could be to the stage like I was pre-covid. I've also been to several GA shows in the last few months, so my comfort level was fine (was before my first show back as well though).
Personally, I did just say fuck it and have been that way since I've been vaxed. Don't feel any regret about it. The vax works, and I think that is pretty well proven at this point with all the shows that have taken place, and 100,000+ in college football stadium's. All this is happening without significant issues that would put a stop to all this.
Not everyone will feel the same level of comfort, and that is perfectly OK.
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Elephant in the room? For over the last year and a half I feel like this is all we have discussed. I will be going to the Encore shows and have no hesitation at the moment. I can update after those shows and see if my thoughts are different.Post edited by PJNB on0
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How was mask usage? I'm thinking I'm comfortable enough, but would still wear a mask in crowds.lmckenney24 said:They were thorough when checking proof of vax and ID's for folks going in before me that I could see. It was not rushed, but I can't speak for every single person.
I was packed in a sea of people relatively close as I could be to the stage like I was pre-covid. I've also been to several GA shows in the last few months, so my comfort level was fine (was before my first show back as well though).
Personally, I did just say fuck it and have been that way since I've been vaxed. Don't feel any regret about it. The vax works, and I think that is pretty well proven at this point with all the shows that have taken place, and 100,000+ in college football stadium's. All this is happening without significant issues that would put a stop to all this.
Not everyone will feel the same level of comfort, and that is perfectly OK.0 -
Maybe I am wrong, but in the last 4 days I didn't see any mention of the SHN show in regards to covid. Maybe I am wrong.PJNB said:Elephant in the room? For over the last year and a half I feel like this is all we have discussed. I will be going to the Encore shows and have no hesitation at the moment. I can update after those shows and see if that changes.
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I mean, I didn't count. I saw some near me wearing them, but not many. I'd say everyone felt pretty damn comfortable.biz999 said:
How was mask usage? I'm thinking I'm comfortable enough, but would still wear a mask in crowds.lmckenney24 said:They were thorough when checking proof of vax and ID's for folks going in before me that I could see. It was not rushed, but I can't speak for every single person.
I was packed in a sea of people relatively close as I could be to the stage like I was pre-covid. I've also been to several GA shows in the last few months, so my comfort level was fine (was before my first show back as well though).
Personally, I did just say fuck it and have been that way since I've been vaxed. Don't feel any regret about it. The vax works, and I think that is pretty well proven at this point with all the shows that have taken place, and 100,000+ in college football stadium's. All this is happening without significant issues that would put a stop to all this.
Not everyone will feel the same level of comfort, and that is perfectly OK.
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Great question/post OP.
i'm fully vaccinated and still got the variant last month. Scares me that we may not have live music in the future as the variant seems to dominate even those that are vaccinated eventually. i hope they encourage the booster shots to everyone. It was great watching social media this weekend and seeing everyone have fun being together again up in North Jersey with our band. I just fear that many will still get sick. Fortunately for me and my family, after 3-4 days of severe flu like symptoms, the next week were more or less of an inconvenience and a light flu or a big cold. I also saved a ton of $ as my wife hasn't been able to taste now for a month meaning 7 bottles of wine she's not making me buy her each week LOL.
I think in the end we just have to accept that being vaccinated can still mean getting sick but hopefully not hospitalized and we have to start living again understanding we are probably going to get sick0 -
I have seen a lot of people talking about their comfort level going to the show, where they stood, and that they actually did not go because of covid and the packed crowd.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:
Maybe I am wrong, but in the last 4 days I didn't see any mention of the SHN show in regards to covid. Maybe I am wrong.PJNB said:Elephant in the room? For over the last year and a half I feel like this is all we have discussed. I will be going to the Encore shows and have no hesitation at the moment. I can update after those shows and see if that changes.
I think people that wanted to go and were comfortable went and got up close if thats what they chose. People that wanted to go and were not as comfortable sat at the back. People that were not comfortable at all skipped the event.
I do believe there are some people that go through the fear of missing out and actually went but had ton of anxiety doing so. Those are the people I hope are doing ok with their decision today.0 -
elwayvedder said:Great question/post OP.
i'm fully vaccinated and still got the variant last month. Scares me that we may not have live music in the future as the variant seems to dominate even those that are vaccinated eventually. i hope they encourage the booster shots to everyone. It was great watching social media this weekend and seeing everyone have fun being together again up in North Jersey with our band. I just fear that many will still get sick. Fortunately for me and my family, after 3-4 days of severe flu like symptoms, the next week were more or less of an inconvenience and a light flu or a big cold. I also saved a ton of $ as my wife hasn't been able to taste now for a month meaning 7 bottles of wine she's not making me buy her each week LOL.
I think in the end we just have to accept that being vaccinated can still mean getting sick but hopefully not hospitalized and we have to start living again understanding we are probably going to get sickSad to hear you got the variant. THRILLED to hear you are doing better.
I couldn't wait to get the vaccine, and I will be 1st in line to get the booster. It sad how many Americans are reluctant to get the vaccine. Its just sad.
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Careful Speedy, the positivity police may light this thread up with sunshine and rainbows! Dave, I am so glad everyone is ok!! The vaccine was always meant to prevent one from getting really ill and dying.www.cluthelee.com0
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2-feign-reluctance said:Careful Speedy, the positivity police may light this thread up with sunshine and rainbows! Dave, I am so glad everyone is ok!! The vaccine was always meant to prevent one from getting really ill and dying.
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I think someone on fanviews thinks they caught it at the show
this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -0 -
That fucking sucks, but not surprising. Never a question of if, but how many at something that large.lastexitlondon said:I think someone on fanviews thinks they caught it at the showwww.cluthelee.com0 -
Yeah it's supposed to be just fun. I fuckin hate what this virus is doing . Mentally its fucked me
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My thoughts exactly. We're never getting rid of Covid and for most of us sitting in our houses and avoiding the things we love doing is not realistic. I know the risks and will accept the consequences if there are any.lmckenney24 said:They were thorough when checking proof of vax and ID's for folks going in before me that I could see. It was not rushed, but I can't speak for every single person.
I was packed in a sea of people relatively close as I could be to the stage like I was pre-covid. I've also been to several GA shows in the last few months, so my comfort level was fine (was before my first show back as well though).
Personally, I did just say fuck it and have been that way since I've been vaxed. Don't feel any regret about it. The vax works, and I think that is pretty well proven at this point with all the shows that have taken place, and 100,000+ in college football stadium's. All this is happening without significant issues that would put a stop to all this.
Not everyone will feel the same level of comfort, and that is perfectly OK.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0 -
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That fucking sucks, but not surprising. Never a question of if, but how many at something that large.lastexitlondon said:I think someone on fanviews thinks they caught it at the showLollapalooza had 385,000 people attend. It was reported 2 weeks later that there were 203 cases of covid from attendees.
Wouldn't it be nice if SHN and there 2 day total of 60,000 people in attendance, only has 20-30 cases of covid?
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It would be nice^^the bad thing is when those 20 ot 30 spread it. Stinks all around.0
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Loujoe said:It would be nice^^the bad thing is when those 20 ot 30 spread it. Stinks all around.
Yes it does stink.
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If that holds up, it's a 1 in 2,000 chance of infection. Pretty good odds.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:2-feign-reluctance said:
That fucking sucks, but not surprising. Never a question of if, but how many at something that large.lastexitlondon said:I think someone on fanviews thinks they caught it at the showLollapalooza had 385,000 people attend. It was reported 2 weeks later that there were 203 cases of covid from attendees.
Wouldn't it be nice if SHN and there 2 day total of 60,000 people in attendance, only has 20-30 cases of covid?
I was gung ho earlier in the summer about getting back to normal but scaled back once delta hit. Only thing I've done since is Foo Fighters at 9:30 club. Indoors, packed together, but only 1,200 people vaccinated and wearing masks. With a n95 I felt it was worth the risk. And the staff did a good job checking vax cards and IDs. Planning to attend Encore but probably won't try for rail lol. So basically still taking precautions while getting out and doing some things0 -
100% fuck it. Im vaxxed. No distancing, up front, no mask, dancing, talking, jamming, all of it. Didn't think about covid for even 2 seconds.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:Well,30,000 of you folks showed up in Jersey and rocked out to Pearl Jam. Pretty sure that's the 1st time any of you have gathered in a setting like that in quite some time.
For the folks who were a the show, did you feel safe? Did you even attempt to somewhat distance? Did you say fuck it, and get as close to the stage as possible? Were the folks checking vaccine cards doing there jobs, thoroughly checking cards and matching ID'S? Or were they just glancing and letting you in? I would be willing to guess that only 1% of you folks were wearing a mask.
I realize everyone there was vaccinated, or had a negative covid test, but personally I am not quite sure I am ready to put myself in that situation.
For those who were there. Did you just say fuck the delta variant, I'm vaccinated, covid wont kill me, I am going on with my life. 4 days later are you still ok with your decision to go to the show? Did any of you wake up the next day and maybe feel a little, I don't know, maybe regret?, for putting yourself in a mass crowd of 30,000 people?
Saw maybe 10 people out of 30k with a mask. Thus proving the pointlessness of a mask (but that's another discussion).
Everyone I know who has had a breakthrough case said its annoying and not fun (is being sick ever fun?) but it was never a serious threat to their health. Studies on breakthrough cases show an incredibly small amount of severe illness.
Depression, despair, anxiety, and mental struggles after a year of no social life are 100% real. Severe covid breakthrough case? Not so real to me.
4 days later all I can think is that it has been 4 days since my last PJ show and it feels like too long ago.
Also, took an at home test just to be sure today that I would be safe for Ohana and it was negative so all systems are a go.
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Severe breakthrough cases are real. To say they are not is puzzling. I guess it depends on perspective, what you find severe, etc...jimjam1982 said:
100% fuck it. Im vaxxed. No distancing, up front, no mask, dancing, talking, jamming, all of it. Didn't think about covid for even 2 seconds.SPEEDY MCCREADY said:Well,30,000 of you folks showed up in Jersey and rocked out to Pearl Jam. Pretty sure that's the 1st time any of you have gathered in a setting like that in quite some time.
For the folks who were a the show, did you feel safe? Did you even attempt to somewhat distance? Did you say fuck it, and get as close to the stage as possible? Were the folks checking vaccine cards doing there jobs, thoroughly checking cards and matching ID'S? Or were they just glancing and letting you in? I would be willing to guess that only 1% of you folks were wearing a mask.
I realize everyone there was vaccinated, or had a negative covid test, but personally I am not quite sure I am ready to put myself in that situation.
For those who were there. Did you just say fuck the delta variant, I'm vaccinated, covid wont kill me, I am going on with my life. 4 days later are you still ok with your decision to go to the show? Did any of you wake up the next day and maybe feel a little, I don't know, maybe regret?, for putting yourself in a mass crowd of 30,000 people?
Saw maybe 10 people out of 30k with a mask. Thus proving the pointlessness of a mask (but that's another discussion).
Everyone I know who has had a breakthrough case said its annoying and not fun (is being sick ever fun?) but it was never a serious threat to their health. Studies on breakthrough cases show an incredibly small amount of severe illness.
Depression, despair, anxiety, and mental struggles after a year of no social life are 100% real. Severe covid breakthrough case? Not so real to me.
4 days later all I can think is that it has been 4 days since my last PJ show and it feels like too long ago.
Also, took an at home test just to be sure today that I would be safe for Ohana and it was negative so all systems are a go.
I'm glad that people were able to go and have a blast.
@elwayvedder
So happy to hear everyone is ok. The part about the wine just about killed me laughing.
Not nice!
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