The elephant in the room....Covid and these Pearl Jam shows

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  • everyone vaccinated/negative yet still afraid?! that seems highly irrational. 
    everyone vaccinated/negative yet still afraid?! that seems highly irrational. 
    It's sad. This virus is going to control some people's lives for years to come. 
    People can live with children, elderly and immunocompromised individuals. The concern is there to protect others.  Be grateful you don’t have those concerns. 
    This is true. But there's also people that are just overly paranoid. And probably were pre-pandemic. If you were the type to be scared of things before COVID, then you're probably terrified of COVID. If you didn't give a fuck about anything pre-pandemic, you probably don't give a fuck about COVID. I'm pretty much in the middle. 

    Did you wear a mask and/or stay six feet away from people at Sea Hear Now? 
    Yes, I did.  I wore a mask the entire time and I stayed the greatest distance I could from others, sometimes six feet was penetrated lol.  

    And I'm happy I was extra cautious.  Others had a great time with no worries and I'm happy for them too.  We all have to do our own thing.  

    If I was "scared", I would have stayed home.  
    Well at least you practice what ya preach. That’s commendable. I agree that everyone should do their own thing. 
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  • Poncier
    Poncier Posts: 17,921
    biz999 said:
    lexicondevil said:
    He didn't throw the can to me from across the room...
    You didn't bring your 6' straw?



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  • Loujoe
    Loujoe Posts: 11,851
    Nobody's right when everybody's wrong
  • brewdog123
    brewdog123 ATL Posts: 685
    Loujoe said:
    Nobody's right when everybody's wrong
    truth bomb
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  • I bought my Ohana Encore tickets in that brief sunny window of time when things seemed to be trending to covid being a thing of the past. As delta ramped up I've been going back and forth on whether I should go. I'm healthy and in my 30's but I do have a father with a heart condition and take care of my two baby nieces. I live in CA and only have a short flight to the event. As far as risk goes, an outdoor concert with beach breezes sounds pretty safe to me. I dont' plan on trying for the rail, I'll be fine hanging back and soaking it all in. mask will go on when it feels too crowded.I also plan on taking a rapid test and quarantining away from my family for a couple days when I get back. Hope it all works out for all of us. 
  • Great question/post OP.
    i'm fully vaccinated and still got the variant last month.  Scares me that we may not have live music in the future as the variant seems to dominate even those that are vaccinated eventually.  i hope they encourage the booster shots to everyone.  It was great watching social media this weekend and seeing everyone have fun being together again up in North Jersey with our band. I just fear that many will still get sick. Fortunately for me and my family, after 3-4 days of severe flu like symptoms, the next week were more or less of an inconvenience and a light flu or a big cold.  I also saved a ton of $ as my wife hasn't been able to taste now for a month meaning 7 bottles of wine she's not making me buy her each week LOL.
    I think in the end we just have to accept that being vaccinated can still mean getting sick but hopefully not hospitalized and we have to start living again understanding we are probably going to get sick
    Dave, glad to hear you and yours are doing well, that is scary. Vaccinated or not, this virus is no joke and no one wants to get it period.  Science has shown those who are vaccinated and get it are much lower risk of hospitalization, that in itself should open some unvaccinated eyes.  Take care, give my best to Deb.  

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  • asutton327
    asutton327 Phoenix, AZ Posts: 203
    I have waited 30 years for an opportunity to see PJ in concert. Finally got tix to two shows in 2020 🤦‍♀️

    I’m vaxxed and have a pretty high risk tolerance, but I have been diligent since the beginning of this cluster, and dammit, I HAVE NEEDS! I want to do this while I still have the chance.
  • mfc2006
    mfc2006 HTOWN Posts: 37,491
    We’re ready for the Ohana weekend and have been to many festivals. That being said, we’ll be hanging in the back this time around. 
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  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,792
    edited September 2021
    The only way to be sure that everyone going through the turnstiles is showing legit proof is by digital scanning! Those cards become blurry after you’ve looked at hundreds so anyone can walk in with fake cards 
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  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    The only way to be sure that everyone going through the turnstiles is showing legit proof is by digital scanning! Those cards become blurry after you’ve looked at hundreds so anyone can walk in with fake cards 
    I agree, requiring pre-registration of your vax docs and then issuing bar codes to each attendee is really the way to go, both for vax cards and then needing to pre-register your negative test results 2 or 1 day before festival, although the negative test thing is tricky because the test is only good if it's 2-3 days before 1st day of fest, and you need a screening process that will catch bogus or weird test results, so that turnaround time for thousands is very tricky to do well.
  • JH6056
    JH6056 Posts: 2,437
    I have waited 30 years for an opportunity to see PJ in concert. Finally got tix to two shows in 2020 🤦‍♀️

    I’m vaxxed and have a pretty high risk tolerance, but I have been diligent since the beginning of this cluster, and dammit, I HAVE NEEDS! I want to do this while I still have the chance.
    And as a longtime fan who always feels for those who've not been able to get to a show yet, I NEED for **YOU** to see them after a 30 yr wait, so I'm sending you TONS of "Your shows will happen, you'll be there, everyone will be safe, and you will have the time of your life!" mojo & vibes! 

    Please absolutely post about your experiences when you have them, which you will!  :)
  • SVRDhand13
    SVRDhand13 Posts: 27,016
    The only way to be sure that everyone going through the turnstiles is showing legit proof is by digital scanning! Those cards become blurry after you’ve looked at hundreds so anyone can walk in with fake cards 
    When I saw MMJ they diligently checked that my vax card at least matches my ID.  At SHN, the woman said go before even looking down lol.  I think it depends on the person and like you said, time of day.  
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  • Go Beavers
    Go Beavers Posts: 9,618
    The problem for over a year is the messaging around spread and also the vaccine. Outdoor spread is very rare. Even more rare with a high vax rate crowd. Ventilation is the most important factor, as far as NPIs go, but it has never been emphasized enough. Vaccinated people are less likely to spread, but you keep hearing “the vaccinated can still spread it”. This just added to misperceptions for the vaccine hesitant: “why get vaccinated if I can still get it and spread it?”  
  • Wife and I went to SHN and our original plan was to hang towards the back and not be around a lot of other people.  When we got there, we quickly realized that hanging in the back would basically mean not really even being able to see the stage.  We are both vaxxed, so said screw it and got right up in the middle of the crowd.  Had an awesome time and while it felt weird to be around that many people, didn't really worry about it once the show started.  Sure enough, Wednesday comes around and I start feeling a little sick, got tested, and yes, positive for Covid.  It basically feels like a bad head cold for me so far, so hopefully I get over it soon.  The worst part is having to quarantine in my own house from my wife.  All, that being said, we knew the risks and we were ok with it since we were both vaxxed.  Stay safe out there people!  Breakthrough infections are real.
  • dankind
    dankind Posts: 20,841
    sachtriv said:
    Wife and I went to SHN and our original plan was to hang towards the back and not be around a lot of other people.  When we got there, we quickly realized that hanging in the back would basically mean not really even being able to see the stage.  We are both vaxxed, so said screw it and got right up in the middle of the crowd.  Had an awesome time and while it felt weird to be around that many people, didn't really worry about it once the show started.  Sure enough, Wednesday comes around and I start feeling a little sick, got tested, and yes, positive for Covid.  It basically feels like a bad head cold for me so far, so hopefully I get over it soon.  The worst part is having to quarantine in my own house from my wife.  All, that being said, we knew the risks and we were ok with it since we were both vaxxed.  Stay safe out there people!  Breakthrough infections are real.
    Hope it's mild and that you convalesce quickly.

    Take care.
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  • dankind said:

    Hope it's mild and that you convalesce quickly.

    Take care.
    Thank You

  • nicknyr15
    nicknyr15 Posts: 9,334
    So that’s two confirmed cases from SHN. Just on these boards. Crazy. Wish both  a speedy recovery  
  • F Me In The Brain
    F Me In The Brain this knows everybody from other commets Posts: 31,880
    sachtriv said:
    Wife and I went to SHN and our original plan was to hang towards the back and not be around a lot of other people.  When we got there, we quickly realized that hanging in the back would basically mean not really even being able to see the stage.  We are both vaxxed, so said screw it and got right up in the middle of the crowd.  Had an awesome time and while it felt weird to be around that many people, didn't really worry about it once the show started.  Sure enough, Wednesday comes around and I start feeling a little sick, got tested, and yes, positive for Covid.  It basically feels like a bad head cold for me so far, so hopefully I get over it soon.  The worst part is having to quarantine in my own house from my wife.  All, that being said, we knew the risks and we were ok with it since we were both vaxxed.  Stay safe out there people!  Breakthrough infections are real.

    Echoing Dankind's sentiments -- hopefully it is a mild case and things go quickly for you w/o any lingering issues.
    Also hope your wife does not get it.

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  • Echoing Dankind's sentiments -- hopefully it is a mild case and things go quickly for you w/o any lingering issues.
    Also hope your wife does not get it.

    Thanks!  Yes, taking every precaution including masking up in the house and basically isolating to one room.  She has no symptoms yet so hopefully it stays that way!

  • 2-feign-reluctance
    2-feign-reluctance TigerTown, USA Posts: 23,462
    The problem for over a year is the messaging around spread and also the vaccine. Outdoor spread is very rare. Even more rare with a high vax rate crowd. Ventilation is the most important factor, as far as NPIs go, but it has never been emphasized enough. Vaccinated people are less likely to spread, but you keep hearing “the vaccinated can still spread it”. This just added to misperceptions for the vaccine hesitant: “why get vaccinated if I can still get it and spread it?”  
    Dude, because you reduce your risk of dying and spreading a hefty viral load onto others. Proof is in the responses just underneath yours. C'mon. 
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