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Ever hear of Tuskegee? What's your excuse? To the bold, who told you that? More FauciOuchi? On the heels of claiming someone wished death upon you. You, kind sir, are on a roll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Speaking of "colored folk" as you call them, has anyone seen any vaccination numbers for them? Asking for a friend.Halifax2TheMax said:
Particularly coming from an admitted POOTWH voter, who, along with Fucker Carlson and the faux news minions, embrace authoritarians and rather the USA look more like Hungary and Russia, Russia, Russia than, well, the USA, with all those colored and gay folk running around.CM189191 said:gvn2fly1421 said:
And you are ok with this? That's what I do not understand with the majority of the people here. All of you are vaccinated yet this seems to be in a never ending cycle of power and control by your government. And that seems to be fine. Why? The message has changed more in the past year than I change my underwear. Why are y'all not sick of it?CM189191 said:gvn2fly1421 said:
I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way. My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:
When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot. One shot. Not mRNA. Seems to be the best route for us. Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?
Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated. What exactly does that mean? Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"? If so, when will this cycle stop?
Never. The cycle never stops.
Vaccine have been required for years. Enforcement will become more efficient.
Deal with it.
Yes, I'm ok with this. What I'm sick of is people who have no idea what they hell they're talking about, continuing to spew misinformation under the guise of 'I'm just asking questions'
There's a huge logical leap from 'get the damn shot' to 'never ending cycle of power and control by the government'
The message has always been: masks, vaccines and social distancing will stop the pandemic.
I am told it is nothing but country bumpkin, truck nut having, American flag waving, MAGA hat wearing peoples that refuse the shot.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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A friend in the medical field (that I would trust my life with) posted this:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/vaccines-continue-to-be-safe-for?fbclid=IwAR3jm7Onp_Ul9T1gunfeCXX1bxDPu6wPYXbwyVJKEmVmj2TMNUi-hQkYXhA
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Minorities are known for not getting vaccinated.Halifax2TheMax said:
Ever hear of Tuskegee? What's your excuse? To the bold, who told you that? More FauciOuchi? On the heels of claiming someone wished death upon you. You, kind sir, are on a roll.gvn2fly1421 said:
Speaking of "colored folk" as you call them, has anyone seen any vaccination numbers for them? Asking for a friend.Halifax2TheMax said:
Particularly coming from an admitted POOTWH voter, who, along with Fucker Carlson and the faux news minions, embrace authoritarians and rather the USA look more like Hungary and Russia, Russia, Russia than, well, the USA, with all those colored and gay folk running around.CM189191 said:gvn2fly1421 said:
And you are ok with this? That's what I do not understand with the majority of the people here. All of you are vaccinated yet this seems to be in a never ending cycle of power and control by your government. And that seems to be fine. Why? The message has changed more in the past year than I change my underwear. Why are y'all not sick of it?CM189191 said:gvn2fly1421 said:
I realize most people here will think I am joking or trolling, but the fact of the matter is I am feeling this same way. My wife's work is talking about mandating it and frankly I am afraid by the time we board a plane this Christmas that I will need to show proof.Ledbetterman10 said:
Yep....and this is why I got the vaccine without hesitation. I knew it was inevitable that you'd need one to enter something like this. Otherwise, I may not have gotten the vaccine yet. I mean, it doesn't prevent you from spreading it, which was my main COVID concern pre-vaccine (that I'd possibly infect my 73-year-old father or 90-year-old grandmother). It's not FDA-approved like every other vaccine I've ever gotten. I understand the hesitation or even flat-out refusal some people have about it. But I want to see Pearl Jam. And because of that, I was fully vaccinated by February 2021. For a while, I at least took solace in knowing that if I caught the virus, having been vaccinated, I'd be fine. But my friend who is vaccinated caught COVID last week and had to go to the ER. So who the hell knows...Weston1283 said:
When talking with my wife about it, I suggest the J&J shot. One shot. Not mRNA. Seems to be the best route for us. Obviously, we will wait as long as we possibly can before doing anything, but what is the consensus of the board on which one to get?
Also, one question I have had is all of these places are showing proof of being "fully" vaccinated. What exactly does that mean? Two years from now if two additional boosters are required, does that make it "fully"? If so, when will this cycle stop?
Never. The cycle never stops.
Vaccine have been required for years. Enforcement will become more efficient.
Deal with it.
Yes, I'm ok with this. What I'm sick of is people who have no idea what they hell they're talking about, continuing to spew misinformation under the guise of 'I'm just asking questions'
There's a huge logical leap from 'get the damn shot' to 'never ending cycle of power and control by the government'
The message has always been: masks, vaccines and social distancing will stop the pandemic.
I am told it is nothing but country bumpkin, truck nut having, American flag waving, MAGA hat wearing peoples that refuse the shot.
If that is what he means? I'm not sure.0 -
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In the past week in Tennessee...
614,000
people have died from coronavirus in the U.S.New daily reported cases rose 66.2%New daily reported deaths stayed about the sameCovid-related hospitalizations rose 58.8% Read moreAmong reported tests, the positivity rate was 16.7%.
The number of tests reported rose 52.6% from the previous week.Read more
Since Dec. 14, more than 5,792,000 doses of a coronavirus vaccine have been administered in Tennessee.
More than 2,680,000 people have completed vaccination, or about 39.25% of the population. Read more about Tennessee’s vaccination strategy in our vaccination tracker.
New deaths reported per day in Tennessee
DeathsAt least 12,774 have been reported since Feb. 29, 2020.
Meh, on Monday there were only 26.
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“Disease” is a general term for some sort of abnormal functioning of the body. Diseases can be infectious or non-infectious, and each category has many different causes.tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:
What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?
TY both.mrussel1 said:
I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around. Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity. A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease. So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
My understanding of it was a vaccine was 100% effective, full immunity. It is not. Got it.
Is a disease the same as a virus? If a vaccine works for a disease like mentioned above is it the same for a virus?
The other part is the underground conspiracy freaks brought it up and it didn't make sense to how they described it. You need to pay attention to the crazies and see what they are cooking.
I want to fully understand the wording.
ThanksFor infectious diseases the causative agent can be bacterial, viral, parasitic, or fungal (and again, lots of different types of each).
Vaccines are developed for infectious diseases generally, though there are some vaccines for other diseases involving the immune system, like some cancers and autoimmune conditions.Out of the current vaccines for infectious agents, most are for viral or bacterial pathogens. Meningitis and diphtheria, for instance, are bacterial whereas Hepatitis A and B are viral.There are also several different proven ways to make vaccines.
In all cases, a vaccine is designed to prompt the immune system to mount an immune response, which includes making antibodies but also other reactions, so that when the infectious agent is detected it can be dealt with more quickly and effectively. No vaccine ever is 100% effective, for lots of reasons, including the fact that much depends on how well the body’s immune system reacts.The COVID vaccines available in the US and Canada are considered very effective, in the grand scheme of vaccines.my small self... like a book amongst the many on a shelf0 -
He's obviously a govt agent that wants to control youPJPOWER said:A friend in the medical field (that I would trust my life with) posted this:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/vaccines-continue-to-be-safe-for?fbclid=IwAR3jm7Onp_Ul9T1gunfeCXX1bxDPu6wPYXbwyVJKEmVmj2TMNUi-hQkYXhA0 -
Its pointless at this stage.. do it or dont. The time for talk is well over and too late
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Damn, “she” hid it so well over all these years, lolmrussel1 said:
He's obviously a govt agent that wants to control youPJPOWER said:A friend in the medical field (that I would trust my life with) posted this:
https://yourlocalepidemiologist.substack.com/p/vaccines-continue-to-be-safe-for?fbclid=IwAR3jm7Onp_Ul9T1gunfeCXX1bxDPu6wPYXbwyVJKEmVmj2TMNUi-hQkYXhA0 -
Coming for a country near you...
https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/israels-covid-cabinet-contemplating-lockdown-in-2-weeks-report-675848BREAKING NEWSIsrael's COVID cabinet contemplating lockdown in 2 weeks - report
The possibility of imposing a lockdown in two weeks' time was discussed in Israel's corona cabinet, Channel 13 reported on Wednesday evening.Construction and Housing Minister Ze'ev Elkin is reportedly in favor of the move, as infection models have predicted a lockdown will be necessary in any case by September.It is also reported that officials in the Health Ministry are supportive of a lockdown, in order to motivate Israelis who have not yet received a third vaccine dose to get the jab.0 -
Oh my! There go my freedumbs! Did I wake up in Chiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiina?Dear Members of the Campus Community:Here are this week’s five things you need to know about Fordham’s COVID-19 precautions, vaccinations, and University operations (You can read the State of New York’s most recent COVID-19 guidelines on its Novel Coronavirus page):• In the last 14 days, 5 members of the University community tested positive for COVID-19, a positivity rate of 4.85% of 103 tests administered, as listed on the University dashboard.• As of September 1, no unvaccinated student or employee will be allowed on campus unless they have received an official accommodation from the University. Employees who have not provided proof of vaccination nor requested an accommodation will be placed on an unpaid leave of absence without benefits for the fall semester as of September 1. fordham.edu/hr• The University will continue its policy of admitting only faculty, students, and staff at indoor gatherings, events, performances and meetings through the fall semester. Alumni, parents, and their guests may attend outdoor events with proof of vaccination. Guest speakers and performers will be allowed on campus in very limited numbers for specific events, if they provide proof of full COVID-19 vaccination.• Individuals should be tested for COVID-19 within 3 to 5 days following international travel or following exposure to anyone infected with COVID-19, even if you are asymptomatic. Exposed individuals should also wear a mask in public indoor spaces for 14 days, or until testing negative for the virus. Anyone having COVID-19 symptoms should stay home, avoid contact with other people, and get tested.• As of Monday, August 2, the University requires all unvaccinated individuals to wear masks indoors, and in any public space on campus. The University recommends fully vaccinated individuals wear masks indoors while on campus.For more information, please see the COVID-19 Guidelines on the web. Every issue of Five Things is archived here on our news site.09/15/1998 & 09/16/1998, Mansfield, MA; 08/29/00 08/30/00, Mansfield, MA; 07/02/03, 07/03/03, Mansfield, MA; 09/28/04, 09/29/04, Boston, MA; 09/22/05, Halifax, NS; 05/24/06, 05/25/06, Boston, MA; 07/22/06, 07/23/06, Gorge, WA; 06/27/2008, Hartford; 06/28/08, 06/30/08, Mansfield; 08/18/2009, O2, London, UK; 10/30/09, 10/31/09, Philadelphia, PA; 05/15/10, Hartford, CT; 05/17/10, Boston, MA; 05/20/10, 05/21/10, NY, NY; 06/22/10, Dublin, IRE; 06/23/10, Northern Ireland; 09/03/11, 09/04/11, Alpine Valley, WI; 09/11/11, 09/12/11, Toronto, Ont; 09/14/11, Ottawa, Ont; 09/15/11, Hamilton, Ont; 07/02/2012, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/04/2012 & 07/05/2012, Berlin, Germany; 07/07/2012, Stockholm, Sweden; 09/30/2012, Missoula, MT; 07/16/2013, London, Ont; 07/19/2013, Chicago, IL; 10/15/2013 & 10/16/2013, Worcester, MA; 10/21/2013 & 10/22/2013, Philadelphia, PA; 10/25/2013, Hartford, CT; 11/29/2013, Portland, OR; 11/30/2013, Spokane, WA; 12/04/2013, Vancouver, BC; 12/06/2013, Seattle, WA; 10/03/2014, St. Louis. MO; 10/22/2014, Denver, CO; 10/26/2015, New York, NY; 04/23/2016, New Orleans, LA; 04/28/2016 & 04/29/2016, Philadelphia, PA; 05/01/2016 & 05/02/2016, New York, NY; 05/08/2016, Ottawa, Ont.; 05/10/2016 & 05/12/2016, Toronto, Ont.; 08/05/2016 & 08/07/2016, Boston, MA; 08/20/2016 & 08/22/2016, Chicago, IL; 07/01/2018, Prague, Czech Republic; 07/03/2018, Krakow, Poland; 07/05/2018, Berlin, Germany; 09/02/2018 & 09/04/2018, Boston, MA; 09/08/2022, Toronto, Ont; 09/11/2022, New York, NY; 09/14/2022, Camden, NJ; 09/02/2023, St. Paul, MN; 05/04/2024 & 05/06/2024, Vancouver, BC; 05/10/2024, Portland, OR;
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This was a pleasure to read. Disease being infectious is interesting.oftenreading said:
“Disease” is a general term for some sort of abnormal functioning of the body. Diseases can be infectious or non-infectious, and each category has many different causes.tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:
What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?
TY both.mrussel1 said:
I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around. Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity. A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease. So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
My understanding of it was a vaccine was 100% effective, full immunity. It is not. Got it.
Is a disease the same as a virus? If a vaccine works for a disease like mentioned above is it the same for a virus?
The other part is the underground conspiracy freaks brought it up and it didn't make sense to how they described it. You need to pay attention to the crazies and see what they are cooking.
I want to fully understand the wording.
ThanksFor infectious diseases the causative agent can be bacterial, viral, parasitic, or fungal (and again, lots of different types of each).
Vaccines are developed for infectious diseases generally, though there are some vaccines for other diseases involving the immune system, like some cancers and autoimmune conditions.Out of the current vaccines for infectious agents, most are for viral or bacterial pathogens. Meningitis and diphtheria, for instance, are bacterial whereas Hepatitis A and B are viral.There are also several different proven ways to make vaccines.
In all cases, a vaccine is designed to prompt the immune system to mount an immune response, which includes making antibodies but also other reactions, so that when the infectious agent is detected it can be dealt with more quickly and effectively. No vaccine ever is 100% effective, for lots of reasons, including the fact that much depends on how well the body’s immune system reacts.The COVID vaccines available in the US and Canada are considered very effective, in the grand scheme of vaccines.
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+1tempo_n_groove said:
This was a pleasure to read. Disease being infectious is interesting.oftenreading said:
“Disease” is a general term for some sort of abnormal functioning of the body. Diseases can be infectious or non-infectious, and each category has many different causes.tempo_n_groove said:oftenreading said:
What do you mean by “offer immunity”? Do you mean 100% effective? Because no vaccine offers that. Or do you mean something else?tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?
TY both.mrussel1 said:
I don't know if this is why you're asking, but this is the latest bs that is going around. Saying that it's not a vaccine because immunity is not in perpetuity. A vaccine is somethign that stimulates the body to create an antibody to respond to a disease. So to quash this before it gets going any further.. From the CDC:tempo_n_groove said:Question.
Is the covid shot an actual vaccine by the definition? I'm asking scholars and medical professionals.
My understanding of the word is that it's not an actual vaccine because it should offer immunity if it was.
Or screw it, it's a damn vaccine and stop worrying about it?Immunity: Protection from an infectious disease. If you are immune to a disease, you can be exposed to it without becoming infected.
Vaccine: A product that stimulates a person’s immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease, protecting the person from that disease. Vaccines are usually administered through needle injections, but can also be administered by mouth or sprayed into the nose.
Vaccination: The act of introducing a vaccine into the body to produce immunity to a specific disease.
Immunization: A process by which a person becomes protected against a disease through vaccination. This term is often used interchangeably with vaccination or inoculation.
My understanding of it was a vaccine was 100% effective, full immunity. It is not. Got it.
Is a disease the same as a virus? If a vaccine works for a disease like mentioned above is it the same for a virus?
The other part is the underground conspiracy freaks brought it up and it didn't make sense to how they described it. You need to pay attention to the crazies and see what they are cooking.
I want to fully understand the wording.
ThanksFor infectious diseases the causative agent can be bacterial, viral, parasitic, or fungal (and again, lots of different types of each).
Vaccines are developed for infectious diseases generally, though there are some vaccines for other diseases involving the immune system, like some cancers and autoimmune conditions.Out of the current vaccines for infectious agents, most are for viral or bacterial pathogens. Meningitis and diphtheria, for instance, are bacterial whereas Hepatitis A and B are viral.There are also several different proven ways to make vaccines.
In all cases, a vaccine is designed to prompt the immune system to mount an immune response, which includes making antibodies but also other reactions, so that when the infectious agent is detected it can be dealt with more quickly and effectively. No vaccine ever is 100% effective, for lots of reasons, including the fact that much depends on how well the body’s immune system reacts.The COVID vaccines available in the US and Canada are considered very effective, in the grand scheme of vaccines.
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Why is no one allowed to ask questions or be skeptical about any of this? Now we're supposed to trust the government and the vaccine coming from big pharma? Did anyone see that the J&J just settled a billions of dollar settlement for the part they played in the opioid crisis? And then we're supposed to allow them to inject us with their vaccine and not ask questions?I've lost multiple people to the opioid crisis and I sure wish they would've started asking questions about why these pills were literally being forced down their throats.Both big pharma and the government have given us plenty of examples on why we should ask questions instead of just going along with what they say.0
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By Adela Suliman
https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2021/08/04/kff-poll-coronavirus-vaccine-unvaccinated-americans/By Adela Suliman
August 04 at 10:18 AM ET
More unvaccinated adults in the United States view the coronavirus vaccine as a greater risk to their health than the disease caused by the virus itself, a poll found.
The Kaiser Family Foundation released a survey Wednesday that found there was a big split between unvaccinated and vaccinated adults in what they perceived as the bigger threat during the pandemic.
Just over half of unvaccinated adults (53 percent) said they believed getting vaccinated posed a bigger risk to their health than getting infected with the coronavirus. “In contrast, an overwhelming majority (88 percent) of vaccinated adults said that getting infected with COVID-19 is a bigger risk to their health than the vaccine,” the report found.
Unvaccinated adults were also much less worried about the more transmissible delta variant and had less confidence in the safety and effectiveness of the vaccines compared with those who got the shots, according to the KFF survey.
The majority of unvaccinated adults (57 percent) also said they thought the news media had “generally exaggerated” the seriousness of the pandemic, compared with 17 percent of vaccinated adults.
The poll comes as Biden administration officials increasingly frame the current outbreak as a “pandemic of the unvaccinated” with President Biden taking a tougher line, urging the unvaccinated to get inoculated.
“If you’re unvaccinated, you are much more likely to, one, get covid-19; two, get hospitalized; and, three, die if you get it,” Biden said on Tuesday. “This is a tragedy.”
Earlier this week, the country met the president’s goal of at least 70 percent of adult Americans receiving at least one dose of a vaccine — about a month late.
[Have you gotten an extra coronavirus shot? Tell us your story.]
New daily cases in the United States rose 52 percent over the past week, according to The Washington Post coronavirus tracker. Still, hospitalizations and deaths have lagged behind, which Biden noted was because the vaccines are effective in reducing the likelihood of severe illness or death.
On the flip side, the KFF poll found 62 percent of vaccinated adults said news of the coronavirus variants had made them even more likely to wear a mask in public or avoid large gatherings, while fewer unvaccinated adults said the same (37 percent).
However, the poll also found vaccine views were hardening — with just over 1 in 5 unvaccinated adults saying news of variants had made them more likely to get vaccinated. Additionally, the share of adults who had either received a vaccine or said they would do so soon remained relatively unchanged since June.
The poll was completed between July 15 and 27, which means it may not capture any recent uptick in vaccinations since the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) outlined the heightened threat of the delta variant in the United States.continues....
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no paywall on these stories...By Jennifer Hassan and Lateshia Beachum
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2021/08/03/delta-plus-coronavirus-variant-explained/
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questions are welcome. ignoring the answers that are clear and have been given ad nauseum....not so much.JB16057 said:Why is no one allowed to ask questions or be skeptical about any of this? Now we're supposed to trust the government and the vaccine coming from big pharma? Did anyone see that the J&J just settled a billions of dollar settlement for the part they played in the opioid crisis? And then we're supposed to allow them to inject us with their vaccine and not ask questions?I've lost multiple people to the opioid crisis and I sure wish they would've started asking questions about why these pills were literally being forced down their throats.Both big pharma and the government have given us plenty of examples on why we should ask questions instead of just going along with what they say.Hugh Freaking Dillon is currently out of the office, returning sometime in the fall0 -
Hopefully, other states do the same.
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19,000+ cases in Texas today. 497 unoccupied ICU beds. Hospitalizations have gone up so fast. July 4th there were 1647 Covid patients in the hospitals. 1 month later it’s 7685. Really can’t look at that data and think nothing of it.
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Sure you can.RunIntoTheRain said:19,000+ cases in Texas today. 497 unoccupied ICU beds. Hospitalizations have gone up so fast. July 4th there were 1647 Covid patients in the hospitals. 1 month later it’s 7685. Really can’t look at that data and think nothing of it.
You can't not think anything of it and be a smart person, but there are lots who will think nothing of it.
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