Let's first define the "we" doing "too much" testing: It's generally people who feel ill, particularly with Covid symptoms.
So, no, we're not testing too much. Probably too little from what I've observed anecdotally in a mostly Covid-conscious state.
I totally disagree with this statement. All of these mandates are coming out and you have to show proof of vaccination to enter or.... a negative test! If you get contact traced from school or work, you have to wait 14 days or show.... a negative test!
Why are we doing these things if there are no signs or symptoms? Since I have been down this road, I know the responses are going to come back to asymptomatic spread, which has since been proven to not be a thing.
Related, and this is something I have not looked into, but someone is getting really, really rich on testing in the US. Anyone know who?
The list of companies that are producing COVID-19 diagnostic tests is a long one, when you include both PCR and antigen tests, as well as both medically delivered and self-tests. And I disagree that we are testing too much in general.
Ontario is at about 70% fully vaxxed. It's the government's fault that we will struggle to reach 80% or higher fully ...they keep moving the goal post.
Ample vaccines available to any eligible person who wants them, outreach and mobile programs, and you still argue that “it’s the government’s fault”?
Covid changed the goal posts
Did I say there was enough vaccines? Did I blame Pm in my post? I was pointing the finger at the provincial government…don’t be so clueless…or obtuse. Ontario has been lockdown longer than just about anywhere in North America…
At 1st it was 70% and all restrictions lifted and now it’s 90%…
The goal post keep moving. Not every thing is about you or being offended bevpcause you think someone is taking a shot at your racist misogynist groper PM…
SO GO GET A FUCKING LIFE…
Living up to your name, dude.
Go smoke your drugs
Shhh! It seems to have the opposite effect as weed on the regular person.
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Even if everyone did get the vaccine, COVID is not going anywhere. We have had the flu vaccine for many years and it will never be eradicated either.
Should we be doing more to slow down the spread of COVID? Should we not be having big indoor or outdoor concerts now knowing what we know? It seems like more information is coming out pretty fast day by day.....
-outside -required vaccination and negative covid test result
People are traveling from all over to attend. The people attending are not flying directly to Obama's house and then flying directly home. Are the COVID test results 100% accurate? Nope.
Sure, they are taking precautions but they aren't bulletproof.
-outside -required vaccination and negative covid test result
People are traveling from all over to attend. The people attending are not flying directly to Obama's house and then flying directly home. Are the COVID test results 100% accurate? Nope.
Sure, they are taking precautions but they aren't bulletproof.
and nothing ever will be. now that we have vaccines, you have to mitigate the risk and live your life.
the criticisms come from people who mitigate the risk towards those that don't.
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Let's first define the "we" doing "too much" testing: It's generally people who feel ill, particularly with Covid symptoms.
So, no, we're not testing too much. Probably too little from what I've observed anecdotally in a mostly Covid-conscious state.
I totally disagree with this statement. All of these mandates are coming out and you have to show proof of vaccination to enter or.... a negative test! If you get contact traced from school or work, you have to wait 14 days or show.... a negative test!
Why are we doing these things if there are no signs or symptoms? Since I have been down this road, I know the responses are going to come back to asymptomatic spread, *which has since been proven to not be a thing.
Related, and this is something I have not looked into, but someone is getting really, really rich on testing in the US. Anyone know who?
Someone got really rich off the statin I take. Therefore I'm not taking it anymore. That'll show 'em.
I said "generally."
But reactionaries gonna reactionary (*and of course, spread a little misinformation while they're at it).
Let's first define the "we" doing "too much" testing: It's generally people who feel ill, particularly with Covid symptoms.
So, no, we're not testing too much. Probably too little from what I've observed anecdotally in a mostly Covid-conscious state.
I totally disagree with this statement. All of these mandates are coming out and you have to show proof of vaccination to enter or.... a negative test! If you get contact traced from school or work, you have to wait 14 days or show.... a negative test!
Why are we doing these things if there are no signs or symptoms? Since I have been down this road, I know the responses are going to come back to asymptomatic spread, *which has since been proven to not be a thing.
Related, and this is something I have not looked into, but someone is getting really, really rich on testing in the US. Anyone know who?
Someone got really rich off the statin I take. Therefore I'm not taking it anymore. That'll show 'em.
I said "generally."
But reactionaries gonna reactionary (*and of course, spread a little misinformation while they're at it).
For what its worth (and I disagree with the hesitance but whatever) I have had multiple unvaccinated friends/colleagues say they would get the vaccine if it became fully FDA approved (and all of them specifically wanting Pfizer over the others)
Hopefully the FDA can push this along quickly and safely as there has to be a significant number of people out there who feel this way
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The FDA is a bunch of clowns, but I have heard many say the same thing.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
Okay, how better to express this - when facts change, people ought to re-evaluate what they are doing and learn from the additional context. Better?
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The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The data has to be normalized for population. You can't evaluate it in raw numbers.
Yes. You are right.
But what got me into this discussion is that we were told 70% fully all restrictions removed, now it's 90% You don't think this causes vaccine hesitancy? And people are really doubtful restrictions get lifted then. our provincial government is convinced that they solely vaccinate our way out of this.
Also since that original number is the prevalence of a variant with 1,000 the viral load of the prior ones, and a proven ability to spread from vaccinated to either vaccinated or unvaccinated individuals (albeit at a greatly reduced proportion of the original exposures). When facts change, plans should too.
You actually think Trudeau or Ford have a plan…lmfao.
uh, Trudeau had a plan. and it succeeded, no matter how many times you say he failed, he didn't. takes a special kind of moron to keep saying otherwise.
The idiot running this country has been getting bitched slapped by China since the Meng arrest and they are holding 2 Canadians hostage…what a joke.
The idiot PM is in bed with his Chinese buddies…
What kind of leverage do you think Canada has compared to China? Each action or threat could be easily retaliated by the Chinese, to far greater relative impact to the Canadians than the Chinese. I'm glad our government doesn't waste energy demonstrating whose balls are bigger, when there are things they could be doing for the nation which have material impact.
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-outside
-required vaccination and negative covid test result
the criticisms come from people who mitigate the risk towards those that don't.
Hopefully the FDA can push this along quickly and safely as there has to be a significant number of people out there who feel this way
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The idiot running this country has been getting bitched slapped by China since the Meng arrest and they are holding 2 Canadians hostage…what a joke.
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you're finally here and I'm a mess................................................... nationwide arena columbus '10
memories like fingerprints are slowly raising.................................... first niagara center buffalo '13
another man ..... moved by sleight of hand...................................... joe louis arena detroit '14