2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!
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 That's what I was thinking. If they aren't quite ready to add the spring 2020 indoor shows in 2021 due to safety concerns/booking constraints, etc, it would be great if they could add some outdoor shows around the fests. But then people could get upset if there are new dates/venues/cities when they still didn't make up the old ones. Certainly a lot to manage.NDJeff7 said:I would think that it would be easy for them to reschedule for the spring, so I'm hoping the delay is the band looking at squeezing in some or all of those dates this fall. I think if spring 2022 were certain (like summer 2022 for Europe), we would have had an announcement.
 Ill take what I can get and cant wait for whatever we get in the fall (assuming we stay on track)0
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            I think the people hanging around this board (and don’t get me wrong, I count myself in this) are the only ones crazy enough to think the band should be making announcements about things that aren’t going to happen. We get ourselves all whipped up with rumors and speculation and then get frustrated when the band doesn’t confirm or deny. Meanwhile out there in the regular world there’s no announcement because there’s nothing to announce.Camden 2 2006, Newark 2010, Barclays 2 2013, Central Park 2015, MSG 2 2016, Wrigley 1 2016, Rome 2018, Prague 2018, Asbury Park 2021, EV & Earthlings NYC 1 2022, MSG 2022, Louisville 2022, Dublin 2024, MSG 1 2024, MSG 2 20240
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            The difference being most other acts cancelled shows or at least dropped new dates - even if the new ones also have been postponed. PJ's Europe dates were given new dates - the NA tour has been quiet for 15-16 months, but with NHL/NBA scheduling making it more difficult to plan a simple "see you in 2022!" wouldn't hurt. And with all the other bands touring I'm sure it's only getting more and more complicated.
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 My guess is the border opens around the July 4 weekend and no earlier. The government was talking august but I think it gets pushed upD-Rod said:I just received an e-mail from Vivid Seats advertising Toronto Blue Jay tickets at the Roger’s Centre starting July 16th. Another clue that the border might be opening sooner then later.0
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 The border won’t reopen before September 6.LeafsJaysCubsRaptorsFan said:
 My guess is the border opens around the July 4 weekend and no earlier. The government was talking august but I think it gets pushed upD-Rod said:I just received an e-mail from Vivid Seats advertising Toronto Blue Jay tickets at the Roger’s Centre starting July 16th. Another clue that the border might be opening sooner then later.To quote the 10C from Newsletter #8: "Please understand we have a lot of members and it is very hard to please everybody. If you are one of those unhappy people...please call 1-900-IDN-TCAR."
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            Riot Fest single day lineup gets announced at 10am CST today. Should confirm what day PJ will play SHN since Smashing Pumpkins are playing both on the same weekend.0
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            Is anyone holding tickets for other postponed shows that haven’t been rescheduled? PJ is the only one I’m waiting on.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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 Nice work, detective. (Unless RF has a Friday...)lmckenney24 said:Riot Fest single day lineup gets announced at 10am CST today. Should confirm what day PJ will play SHN since Smashing Pumpkins are playing both on the same weekend.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
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 I do what I can, for the good of the people.RatherStarved said:
 Nice work, detective.lmckenney24 said:Riot Fest single day lineup gets announced at 10am CST today. Should confirm what day PJ will play SHN since Smashing Pumpkins are playing both on the same weekend.
 RF does have a Friday, so the announcement may not help, but we shall see.Post edited by lmckenney24 on0
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            Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.0
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 Can't imagine Avett Brothers closing out the fest. Sunday seems likely for PJ.lmckenney24 said:Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.0
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 Pumpkins Friday night at Riot Fest. SHN is only a two day.tschav said:
 Can't imagine Avett Brothers closing out the fest. Sunday seems likely for PJ.lmckenney24 said:Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.
 So Pumpkins will either play back to back nights, or a day off leaving PJ for Saturday. Who knows.0
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 You'd think Pumpkins would use Saturday for travel and play SHN on Sunday, leaving PJ for Saturday, but who knows.lmckenney24 said:
 Pumpkins Friday night at Riot Fest. SHN is only a two day.tschav said:
 Can't imagine Avett Brothers closing out the fest. Sunday seems likely for PJ.lmckenney24 said:Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.
 So Pumpkins will either play back to back nights, or a day off leaving PJ for Saturday. Who knows.This weekend we rock Portland0
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 Yeah, it makes sense to do it that way. Also would selfishly love PJ for Saturday night like most of us.Poncier said:
 You'd think Pumpkins would use Saturday for travel and play SHN on Sunday, leaving PJ for Saturday, but who knows.lmckenney24 said:
 Pumpkins Friday night at Riot Fest. SHN is only a two day.tschav said:
 Can't imagine Avett Brothers closing out the fest. Sunday seems likely for PJ.lmckenney24 said:Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.
 So Pumpkins will either play back to back nights, or a day off leaving PJ for Saturday. Who knows.0
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            My bet is Smashing Pumpkins play back to back nights and play SHN on Saturday with PJ on Sunday.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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 Looks like Nine Inch Nails is closing riot fest Sunday.lmckenney24 said:
 Pumpkins Friday night at Riot Fest. SHN is only a two day.tschav said:
 Can't imagine Avett Brothers closing out the fest. Sunday seems likely for PJ.lmckenney24 said:Smashing Pumpkins Friday night.
 So, that doesn't help figuring out PJ unfortunately.
 So Pumpkins will either play back to back nights, or a day off leaving PJ for Saturday. Who knows.Turn this anger into
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            MSG just announced Billie Eilish for feb 2022. Tickets on sale this month. If PJ playing MSG in march/April 2022 as was planned last year would imagine we would hear soon.Post edited by pmcgrath5 on0
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 They've never given that kind of advanced notice for US dates.pmcgrath5 said:MSG just announced Billie Eilish for feb 2022. Tickets on sale this month. If PJ playing MSG in march/April 2022 as was planned last year would imagine we would hear soon.0
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 I know. Not expecting an official announcement Thinking rumors. And you start narrowing down potential dates between sports and concerts already being announced.CopperTom said:
 They've never given that kind of advanced notice for US dates.pmcgrath5 said:MSG just announced Billie Eilish for feb 2022. Tickets on sale this month. If PJ playing MSG in march/April 2022 as was planned last year would imagine we would hear soon.0
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