2021 Tour Rumors - Let’s Go!!!!!!!!!!
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            Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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 Did not know that thanks!RatherStarved said:
 I would be beyond shocked if that GNR Toronto show happens in July. While it’s not a city-run event, large city-run events have been canned until at least Labour Day. GNR also just moved Milwaukee to September from July.PJNB said:
 You thinking GnR might happen in July?....D-Rod said:I just received an e-mail from Vivid Seats advertising Toronto Blue Jay tickets at the Roger’s Centre starting July 16th. Another clue that the border might be opening sooner then later.0
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            I think we'll hear that Ohana and Sea Hear Now are their only 2021 dates and to stay tuned for details regarding the rescheduled NA shows.___________________________________________
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            my guess is no other shows, other than the two scheduled this year. Most likely management is working on rescheduling the spring dates now that the door is open to do so for 2022 spring. I just don't see why they would bother with a late fall tour, at least in the USA. Maybe a short run in Australia just to get it out of the way so they can move forward next year.0
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            Wasnt going to do ACL even if they were playing. The thought of the bus line and the crowd during covid = no thanks.Lineup is alright.I doubt PJ is playing much this Fall so i wouldnt count on Voodoo Fest either0
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 Same. I’m think the two festival shows. Possibly voodoo fest if that happens and maybe a Seattle show at the new arena. I don’t the spring tour will happen until spring 2022. Could be wrong but either way. I hope they release an update sooner than later.DoDaFoo said:JimmyV said:I think we'll hear that Ohana and Sea Hear Now are their only 2021 dates and to stay tuned for details regarding the rescheduled NA shows.
 Agree, with one exception. I think they'll play Climate Pledge Arena in Seattle in October."If you're like me, then you know me"
 2006: Camden 1
 2008: Washington DC
 2009: Philly 1, Philly 2, Philly 3, Philly 4
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            Anyone know the date the Voodoo fest lineup gets announced?0
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 Good to know. Wonder when those concert postponements get announced so travel plans can get adjusted.RatherStarved said:
 I would be beyond shocked if that GNR Toronto show happens in July. While it’s not a city-run event, large city-run events have been canned until at least Labour Day. GNR also just moved Milwaukee to September from July.PJNB said:
 You thinking GnR might happen in July?....D-Rod said:I just received an e-mail from Vivid Seats advertising Toronto Blue Jay tickets at the Roger’s Centre starting July 16th. Another clue that the border might be opening sooner then later.0
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 I get it. I do think they should set it in stone though. If they’re not comfortable playing the rescheduled shows in 2021, just lock up the 2022 dates and let us know what’s up. I’m cool with waiting for the shows. Just wish we knew the outcome.on2legs said:
 This. As much as we’d love it, they won’t ever announce that they’re “considering” a tour. We won’t hear anything from them until it’s set in stone.Noload said:
 Yeah that would be a nice gesture, but that's not been PJ's practice in the past. Seems like it would be doable to give an update.bbiggs said:
 I was just about to post this same thing. Agreed. It is time for an update. If it's not happening until 2022, that's fine, but let's get some communication.ComeToTX said:I think it’s at least time we get an update on the postponed US dates.0
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 Yeah… it’s kind of a no mans land situation right now. You would think if they were firmly on the side of just playing the two festivals they would just announce that and be done. That makes me think the door is open, at least a crack, to them adding additional dates but they’re waiting to see how things go.bbiggs said:
 I get it. I do think they should set it in stone though. If they’re not comfortable playing the rescheduled shows in 2021, just lock up the 2022 dates and let us know what’s up. I’m cool with waiting for the shows. Just wish we knew the outcome.on2legs said:
 This. As much as we’d love it, they won’t ever announce that they’re “considering” a tour. We won’t hear anything from them until it’s set in stone.Noload said:
 Yeah that would be a nice gesture, but that's not been PJ's practice in the past. Seems like it would be doable to give an update.bbiggs said:
 I was just about to post this same thing. Agreed. It is time for an update. If it's not happening until 2022, that's fine, but let's get some communication.ComeToTX said:I think it’s at least time we get an update on the postponed US dates.1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 (#25) | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park 2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2025: Raleigh 20
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            Also in favor of an update on the postboned shows at this point4.17.94 Paramount 9.28.96 Randall's Island 8.25.00 Jones Beach 4.28.03 Spectrum 7.5.03 Camden 7.6.03 Camden 07.08.03 MSG 07.09.03 MSG 7.12.03 Hershey 7.14.03 Holmdel 6.12.08 Tampa 10.19.13 Brooklyn 4.11.16 Tampa 5.1.16 MSG 5.2.16 MSG 8.7.16 Fenway 9.2.18 Fenway 9.4.18 Fenway 9.11.22 MSG 9.16.22 Nashville 9.18.23 Austin 9.19.23 Austin 9.3.24 MSG 9.4.24 MSG Fenway 9.15.24 Fenway 9.17.24 Hollywood 4.24.25 Nashville 5.6.25 Nashville 5.8.250
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 This would be my bet as well. I hope I’m wrong.JimmyV said:I think we'll hear that Ohana and Sea Hear Now are their only 2021 dates and to stay tuned for details regarding the rescheduled NA shows.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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 TM has your money. And you can get a refund if you want.ComeToTX said:Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.DC '03 - Reading '04 - Philly '05 - Camden 1 '06 - DC '06 - E. Rutherford '06 - The Vic '07 - Lollapalooza '07 - DC '08 - EV DC 1 & 2 '08 (Met Ed!!) - EV Baltimore 1 & 2 '09 - EV NYC 1 '11 (Met Ed!) - Hartford '13 - GCF '15 - MSG 2 '16 - TOTD MSG '16 - Boston 1 & 2 '18 - SHN '21 - EV NYC 1 & 2 '22 - MSG '220
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 thanks for the help.OceansJenny said:
 TM has your money. And you can get a refund if you want.ComeToTX said:Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.This show, another show, a show here and a show there.0
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            Yeah, it is a different situation than them just being tight-lipped about potential plans. These aren't shows they are considering playing, these are shows that they have already sold tickets for. Communication should be a little more forthcoming than usual.___________________________________________
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 You can’t get a refund for public sale tickets at this point, to my knowledge, and you also can’t sell them with fan to fan not being back up. A 30 day refund window was offered about 12 months ago, when most people thought shows would only be delayed by a few months. Personally I have no desire to sell my tickets or get any type of refund and I’ll wait until it’s good to go. But I think there’s a bit of a case to be made that people who do want to sell or get a refund are a little hard done by at this point and an update would be reasonable to expect.OceansJenny said:
 TM has your money. And you can get a refund if you want.ComeToTX said:Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2; 2024: Vancouver 1-2, LV 1-2, LA 1-2, Napa, Barcelona 1-2; Indy; Chicago 1-2; MSG 1-2; Philly 2; Boston 2; Ohana 1-2; 2025: FL 1-2, ATL 1-2, Nash 1-2, Pit 1-2.
 EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
 Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 20230
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 Oddly enough Fan to Fan buyers can get a refund all the way back to the original purchaser. The first buyer can not though.RatherStarved said:
 You can’t get a refund for public sale tickets at this point, to my knowledge, and you also can’t sell them with fan to fan not being back up. A 30 day refund window was offered about 12 months ago, when most people thought shows would only be delayed by a few months. Personally I have no desire to sell my tickets or get any type of refund and I’ll wait until it’s good to go. But I think there’s a bit of a case to be made that people who do want to sell or get a refund are a little hard done by at this point and an update would be reasonable to expect.OceansJenny said:
 TM has your money. And you can get a refund if you want.ComeToTX said:Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.0
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 At this point, with so many other acts announcing rescheduled and new tours, I'm with you 100% that it is reasonable to expect some sort of an update, particularly given that the European shows have already been re-scheduled. I'm happy to wait as well, just curious to know how much longer the wait is going to be. That being said, respect and appreciate their concern for the safety of their fans.PJNB said:
 Oddly enough Fan to Fan buyers can get a refund all the way back to the original purchaser. The first buyer can not though.RatherStarved said:
 You can’t get a refund for public sale tickets at this point, to my knowledge, and you also can’t sell them with fan to fan not being back up. A 30 day refund window was offered about 12 months ago, when most people thought shows would only be delayed by a few months. Personally I have no desire to sell my tickets or get any type of refund and I’ll wait until it’s good to go. But I think there’s a bit of a case to be made that people who do want to sell or get a refund are a little hard done by at this point and an update would be reasonable to expect.OceansJenny said:
 TM has your money. And you can get a refund if you want.ComeToTX said:Yeah, it’s not their usual MO but this is different because they’ve had our money for almost 18 months.0
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            I would think that it would be easy for them to reschedule for the spring, so I'm hoping the delay is the band looking at squeezing in some or all of those dates this fall. I think if spring 2022 were certain (like summer 2022 for Europe), we would have had an announcement.0
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