So how about those fan club singles edit THAT I FINALLY GOT!!

Vedd Hedd · November 2020

The production process will still take some time as we have been manufacturing the Ten Club Singles in-house for the first time ever.

cp3iverson · November 2020

Then you have to wait for each member to come into HQ to sign them. Im thinking early January.

static111 · November 2020

Our watch has ended

Spiritual_Chaos · November 2020

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AllNiteThing · November 2020

Tim Simmons said:

AllNiteThing said:

It's clear there are 3 sides here. Those who don't care one way or another that they aren't getting what they paid for, because they don't think it's a big deal. The second group are very vocal that Pearl Jam and the 10C don't owe us anything, and look at the membership dues as almost a donation to the band, arguing that they've given us enough, so fans shouldn't complain. The third group look at the 10C as a business, and membership dues are paid for an advertised service and provided goods.

I'm in the third group, but I see the points of the other two. In the universe of who I don't mind giving money to with nothing in return, it would be Pearl Jam. In the universe of things to gripe about, this is far down the list. However, facts are facts, and the fact is that 10C is a business that advertises specific goods and services are to be provided in return for payment towards a membership. Not providing what is advertised is a clear issue of false advertising and/or poor customer service. I don't expect to not pay and receive 10C benefits, and conversely I don't expect to pay and not receive said services. If you want to donate to Pearl Jam or the 10C, fine, but this isn't a charity service.

to dive deeper on this, I think all fans do have had common ground on 2 points. Everyone WANTS their singles and the other point is that we know 10c could communicate better and that it is bad business to treat fans like this (seems like every merch drop gets has people less interested).

The real divides here are one group believes PJ will come through because they do make things right so people are fine waiting, and the other is worried they won't or that its a scam and need validation that it isn't. But those 2 lenses make the points that we all agree on are perceived differently by the opposing side. I don't think group 2 is a real group or if it is, its a few dozen people.

Good point, and I agree that group 2 isn't that large. But as we see in politics, the loudest group in the room makes it seem closer to a majority than they really are, and I see a lot of loud voices in group 2.

HesCalledDyer · November 2020

Cool. About time.

HughFreakingDillon · November 2020

Tim Simmons said:

We don't know if they are pressing them in-house. Assembling them to ship, sure.

they said manufacturing. I assumed that meant pressing them. My bad if I misunderstood.

Tim Simmons · November 2020

No, its fair. I don't think anyone knows. I just can't imagine a little operation like the 10c buying a press and having to produce them.

HughFreakingDillon · November 2020

Tim Simmons said:

No, its fair. I don't think anyone knows. I just can't imagine a little operation like the 10c buying a press and having to produce them.

maybe jack white is replacing santos?

Tim Simmons · November 2020

Heh, I just had that thought. With Loosegroove starting up again and Hockeytalker, maybe they are going the TMR route and putting together their own Monkeywrench Records pressing plant to press their own shit, but also, be an option to local bands and labels..

THEBIBLEISTEN · November 2020

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.

So...once these are delivered you'll be cancelling your 10c membership, correct?

You writing a book Judy Bloom?

I am, as it happens. The protagonist in my book, spends a considerable about of time crying foul, espousing virtue and admonishing hypocrisy...only to turn out to be as full of it as everyone else when the book wraps up. Again, the question was, will you be terminating your membership as threatened or nah?

I’m writing a book too Judy. My book is $120, send me the money and maybe I’ll send it to you in 3-4 years. But don’t ever ask me about it. I’ll send it when I’m ready and feel like it. Your book sounds shitty and boring , kinda like your post. I’ve been in the club probably longer than you have been alive Judy. I can have my opinion and don’t need to answer your question. Have a good night Judy.

Loujoe · November 2020

Yeah 10C! They look great and will be nice to have. Hope they keep the presses going over there.

JimmyV · November 2020

Hope these go out soon, are of good quality, and this finally gets put to bed.

If anyone hasn't downloaded them yet you are missing out. I prefer the Ed solo stuff but all four songs are solid.

Tim Simmons · November 2020

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.

So...once these are delivered you'll be cancelling your 10c membership, correct?

You writing a book Judy Bloom?

I am, as it happens. The protagonist in my book, spends a considerable about of time crying foul, espousing virtue and admonishing hypocrisy...only to turn out to be as full of it as everyone else when the book wraps up. Again, the question was, will you be terminating your membership as threatened or nah?

I’m writing a book too Judy. My book is $120, send me the money and maybe I’ll send it to you in 3-4 years. But don’t ever ask me about it. I’ll send it when I’m ready and feel like it. Your book sounds shitty and boring , kinda like your post. I’ve been in the club probably longer than you have been alive Judy. I can have my opinion and don’t need to answer your question. Have a good night Judy.

Why do you keep thinking this is a good argument? You're a dude on a messageboard. They are Pearl Jam. They have a track record for releasing music that people enjoy. Best as I can tell, you make posts. Would we be paying for more posts in your deal? Because I'm not interested in that.

JB16057 · November 2020

I'm glad to finally get an official update. I also appreciate the amount of attention given to the subject. I don't believe it all to be honest but that doesn't really matter. They've given us a deadline to update our address. They warned us that production will still take some time but they said after they finalize our addresses in a few weeks after the deadline, they will give us another update on where they are at in the process.

My guess is that we'll probably get the next update in January or even February. That is totally acceptable to me.

THEBIBLEISTEN · November 2020

Tim Simmons said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.

So...once these are delivered you'll be cancelling your 10c membership, correct?

You writing a book Judy Bloom?

I am, as it happens. The protagonist in my book, spends a considerable about of time crying foul, espousing virtue and admonishing hypocrisy...only to turn out to be as full of it as everyone else when the book wraps up. Again, the question was, will you be terminating your membership as threatened or nah?

I’m writing a book too Judy. My book is $120, send me the money and maybe I’ll send it to you in 3-4 years. But don’t ever ask me about it. I’ll send it when I’m ready and feel like it. Your book sounds shitty and boring , kinda like your post. I’ve been in the club probably longer than you have been alive Judy. I can have my opinion and don’t need to answer your question. Have a good night Judy.

Why do you keep thinking this is a good argument? You're a dude on a messageboard. They are Pearl Jam. They have a track record for releasing music that people enjoy. Best as I can tell, you make posts. Would we be paying for more posts in your deal? Because I'm not interested in that.

Ok, that’s enough. Im
proving a point. They treated their fans like crap and we can question why it’s taken 3 years to send something I paid for over 3 years ago. You can disagree but don’t be blind. It’s a legitimate argument. You can get walked all over in your life but some people won’t stand for it. It’s just my stance. Carry on Judy.

THEBIBLEISTEN · November 2020

Also, it’s not the end of the world. It’s just about principal. And I’m not on here looking for arguments. Just my 2 cents. And now I’m done talking about it.

Clapper · November 2020

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.

So...once these are delivered you'll be cancelling your 10c membership, correct?

You writing a book Judy Bloom?

I am, as it happens. The protagonist in my book, spends a considerable about of time crying foul, espousing virtue and admonishing hypocrisy...only to turn out to be as full of it as everyone else when the book wraps up. Again, the question was, will you be terminating your membership as threatened or nah?

I’m writing a book too Judy. My book is $120, send me the money and maybe I’ll send it to you in 3-4 years. But don’t ever ask me about it. I’ll send it when I’m ready and feel like it. Your book sounds shitty and boring , kinda like your post. I’ve been in the club probably longer than you have been alive Judy. I can have my opinion and don’t need to answer your question. Have a good night Judy.

It's interesting that you use women's names in your arguments like it should be somehow demeaning for people. Becky in another thread, Judy in this one. I'll leave it to you to figure out what that says about you, but I'm not hopeful that you'll be able to come up with it on your own. I'd be willing that it took you less time to come up with the whole Judy Blume schtick than it would’ve to Google how to properly spell her name. I’d also suspect that books aren’t a big thing for you if you have time for 1200 posts in an online forum.

While I don’t love making promises, I can promise you that you haven’t been in the club longer than I have been alive. I can also promise you all your “you’ve lost a customer” grandstanding is a giant, steaming pile of BS. You’re gonna keep your membership and next time tickets go on sale, you’ll be back here crying again.

You’re absolutely welcome to your opinion, but all that high and mighty talk of principles and delivering on what you say went out the window pretty quick when the question was pointed back at you. All of a sudden the words don’t count right? You promised them that they lost you as a customer. Are you saying promising to do something and not doing it only counts for others? At this point , 10 club is in the process of making you whole. Now you have the opportunity to stand by your word and make them whole. Show all of us those principles in action, cancel that membership. Prove they lost a customer. Otherwise it's just 1200 posts of blah, blah, blah.

THEBIBLEISTEN · November 2020

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Clapper said:

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

Still no date. Could be 2021 or 2022.

So...once these are delivered you'll be cancelling your 10c membership, correct?

You writing a book Judy Bloom?

I am, as it happens. The protagonist in my book, spends a considerable about of time crying foul, espousing virtue and admonishing hypocrisy...only to turn out to be as full of it as everyone else when the book wraps up. Again, the question was, will you be terminating your membership as threatened or nah?

I’m writing a book too Judy. My book is $120, send me the money and maybe I’ll send it to you in 3-4 years. But don’t ever ask me about it. I’ll send it when I’m ready and feel like it. Your book sounds shitty and boring , kinda like your post. I’ve been in the club probably longer than you have been alive Judy. I can have my opinion and don’t need to answer your question. Have a good night Judy.

It's interesting that you use women's names in your arguments like it should be somehow demeaning for people. Becky in another thread, Judy in this one. I'll leave it to you to figure out what that says about you, but I'm not hopeful that you'll be able to come up with it on your own. I'd be willing that it took you less time to come up with the whole Judy Blume schtick than it would’ve to Google how to properly spell her name. I’d also suspect that books aren’t a big thing for you if you have time for 1200 posts in an online forum.

While I don’t love making promises, I can promise you that you haven’t been in the club longer than I have been alive. I can also promise you all your “you’ve lost a customer” grandstanding is a giant, steaming pile of BS. You’re gonna keep your membership and next time tickets go on sale, you’ll be back here crying again.

You’re absolutely welcome to your opinion, but all that high and mighty talk of principles and delivering on what you say went out the window pretty quick when the question was pointed back at you. All of a sudden the words don’t count right? You promised them that they lost you as a customer. Are you saying promising to do something and not doing it only counts for others? At this point , 10 club is in the process of making you whole. Now you have the opportunity to stand by your word and make them whole. Show all of us those principles in action, cancel that membership. Prove they lost a customer. Otherwise it's just 1200 posts of blah, blah, blah.

What? I was using a authors name from books I read when I was a kid and being sarcastic, it has nothing to do with being a women or a man. Way to stretch this into something that it’s not and turn into a moral argument to make yourself look like a victim. I was making a point on how poorly the ten club did at communicating the delivery of fan club singles from 3 years ago and was treating their fans. How about this,don’t feel like you to have to have the last word, don’t make stuff up, don’t worry if I’m in the club or not, don’t feel like your opinion matters to me, it doesn’t. Your actually prolly a very nice person in real life but your very annoying on this board. I think you have too much free time on your hands. I think I’ll stay in the club since I already paid for the whole year and read every Judy bloom, Blume, book that I can find and keep posting on this board. 1200 post over 20 years, I hardly even come on here, great argument though, have a great day Judy, Becky, clapper, whoever you are.

Clapper · November 2020

THEBIBLEISTEN said:

What? I was using a authors name from books I read when I was a kid and being sarcastic, it has nothing to do with being a women or a man. Way to stretch this into something that it’s not and turn into a moral argument to make yourself look like a victim. I was making a point on how poorly the ten club did at communicating the delivery of fan club singles from 3 years ago and was treating their fans. How about this,don’t feel like you to have to have the last word, don’t make stuff up, don’t worry if I’m in the club or not, don’t feel like your opinion matters to me, it doesn’t. Your actually prolly a very nice person in real life but your very annoying on this board. I think you have too much free time on your hands. I think I’ll stay in the club since I already paid for the whole year and read every Judy bloom, Blume, book that I can find and keep posting on this board. 1200 post over 20 years, I hardly even come on here, great argument though, have a great day Judy, Becky, clapper, whoever you are.

You've clearly done it in responses to me and to others on this forum. It's there in black and white. The only thing made up here is your promise to cancel your membership. Where are those principles you were harping on? According to many of your posts, the principle is the most import part in all of this. You were our unelected crusader, our beacon of "do the right thing" and now you're just going to leave us to fend for ourselves while you enjoy your membership benefits? Come on, lets see you make good on your promise to stick it to the man. Unless, of course, it was all bullshit. It couldn't be that could it?

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