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  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    mcgruff10 said:
    So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  
    i don't think we can get an accurate number that goes across the board since everyone is wearing different masks made by different materials with a different thread count. 

    and i honestly don't know if you can say your second question definitively. but they certainly make a big difference. 
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  • PJPOWER
    PJPOWER Posts: 6,499
    mcgruff10 said:
    So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  
    I don’t know if I go as far as saying they are “safe”, but they have greatly decreased the odds of spreading it.  I don’t think it’s good for people to have a false sense of security because they are wearing a mask, as there is still a very real possibility of exposure.  Masks are definitely not 100% effective, but are better than nothing.
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,511
    edited November 2020
    As stated, every mask I see being sold here (except for medical masks in the pharmacy) say - "DOES NOT HELP AGAINST VIRUSES." 

    Maybe sweden's "keep the distance and stay home if feeling sick in any way - masks have the risk of giving people a false sense of security" has something to it.

    Will buy a few though, and alcogel - before shops run out of it like in the spring.

    heh.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    so why are all the medical experts saying "masks masks masks"? a big conspiracy to help the mask industry?
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  • OnWis97
    OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 5,618
    PJPOWER said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    So how effective are masks?   If both people are wearing them and talking and one person has covid the other person should be safe correct?  
    I don’t know if I go as far as saying they are “safe”, but they have greatly decreased the odds of spreading it.  I don’t think it’s good for people to have a false sense of security because they are wearing a mask, as there is still a very real possibility of exposure.  Masks are definitely not 100% effective, but are better than nothing.
    Yeah...you're mitigating, not eliminating, the risk. 
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  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,511
    HughFreakingDillon said:
    so why are all the medical experts saying "masks masks masks"? a big conspiracy to help the mask industry?
    I think Alex Jones might give an answer to this in the Joe Rogan interview actually, haha.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,511
    How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • HughFreakingDillon
    HughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 39,599
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.
    Combination of cloth ones and disposables. 
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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,926
    Masks are proven to cut the viral load. Also if both people are wearing it cuts risk down by about 80% i believe. So masks indoors are a must. Outdoors the circulating air dilutes viral particles.  So everything  ive read says if everyone  wears a face covering of any kind indoors it is a very good step towards less infection and lower  viral load.
    There are 100s of videos on how to make them . Wash them everyday with your laundry. 
    There are ones that require  no sewing at all. 



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  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,847
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    As stated, every mask I see being sold here (except for medical masks in the pharmacy) say - "DOES NOT HELP AGAINST VIRUSES." 

    Maybe sweden's "keep the distance and stay home if feeling sick in any way - masks have the risk of giving people a false sense of security" has something to it.

    Will buy a few though, and alcogel - before shops run out of it like in the spring.

    heh.
    Does it say "does not help..." or "does not stop..."? Big difference. Saying it doesn't "help" would be wrong. Saying it won't "stop" the virus would be correct. Maybe its just a translation thing too. 
  • mace1229
    mace1229 Posts: 9,847
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.
    I have 4 or 5 I rotate through, then wash on the weekend. 
  • josevolution
    josevolution Posts: 31,705
    I only wear the medical ones from work and if I have to go anywhere near COVID floor I put my N95 on..
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  • what dreams
    what dreams Posts: 1,761
    I've given up on the cloth masks that have to be washed. I also gave up on the made in China crap found all over Amazon. I just received my first box of 50 legit surgical masks from this company https://mask.demetech.us/SurgicalMask.html  They are well-made and fit securely. Made in USA. 
  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,511
    edited November 2020
    Yeah, those I can find in the pharmacy. But they are not as cool looking as the black ones...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    lastexitlondon said:
    Re. Masks. 
    N95 are the highest spec but for medical use.
    Face coverings stop aerosolization and limit viral  load. So if everyone wears one cuts around 80% out.
    There is a good test. Put mask in and try blow a lighter or candle out .
    This. The non-95 provide a good amount of protection, especially if everyone is wearing them.  
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  • cincybearcat
    cincybearcat Posts: 16,853
    I gotta admit it seems strange for anyone in the 1st world to not have already bought a mask by now. 
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  • GlowGirl
    GlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 12,126
    Spiritual_Chaos said:
    How do people do with masks, do you have enough to switch everyday and throw them in with the washing... like I don't know socks... or do you handwash a few? Etc.
    I have both cloth and disposable (that makes them sound like diapers). I have about 10 cloth masks that I rotate each day, and then when I am down to two left, I hand wash the used ones and let them hand dry overnight. I don't have a washing machine in my apartment. However, if you do wash them in a machine, you should still hang dry them.

  • Spiritual_Chaos
    Spiritual_Chaos Posts: 31,511
    edited November 2020
    cincybearcat said:
    I gotta admit it seems strange for anyone in the 1st world to not have already bought a mask by now. 
    Would you feel it being strange for anyone in the 1st world to not guarantee universal health care for its covid-sick citizens?
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,926
    I think we are missing the  point here. The colour of mask matters not. Just wear one.


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  • lastexitlondon
    lastexitlondon Posts: 14,926
    And  take vitamin d3 everyone  please .


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