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  • Saw the Return to Greendale vinyl for 25 dollars here in Sweden... Looks cheap for two discs... 

    ... hmm... but how often will I... return to... it and spin it...
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    I'm waiting for it to be $15 from Amazon. 

  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,596
    As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan.  That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall.  I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux? 

    Let me explain.  I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.

    WTF???, you say again.

    OK, hold on, I'm getting there. 

    I was immediately wary  from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter.  So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one.  Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey!  Now I can check it out!".  I got it home and gave it a play. 

    Two thing bothered me right off.  One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks.  Ah oh.  Really? Commercialism popped into my head.

    And then problem #2:  the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote.  No other CD that I own have this problem.  Hmmm, that sucks.

    Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me):  Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one.  And then there's Neil's chatter.  Neil has such a great voice- it's not that.  It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs.  If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums.  As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that.   Sad, but true.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • I like his chatter on it.

    I DO NOT LIKE THAT I NEVER BOUGHT THE VINYL.
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    The first unreleased song from Archives II is streaming on NYA now.
    'Come Along And Say You Will', a cool tune with the Stray Gators
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    brianlux said:
    As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan.  That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall.  I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux? 

    Let me explain.  I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.

    WTF???, you say again.

    OK, hold on, I'm getting there. 

    I was immediately wary  from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter.  So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one.  Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey!  Now I can check it out!".  I got it home and gave it a play. 

    Two thing bothered me right off.  One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks.  Ah oh.  Really? Commercialism popped into my head.

    And then problem #2:  the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote.  No other CD that I own have this problem.  Hmmm, that sucks.

    Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me):  Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one.  And then there's Neil's chatter.  Neil has such a great voice- it's not that.  It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs.  If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums.  As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that.   Sad, but true.
    I like his chatter on it.

    I DO NOT LIKE THAT I NEVER BOUGHT THE VINYL.
    I have to say I agree with S_C here. I enjoy the chatter, the guitar tuning, the laughing etc. It makes for a more complete and intimate experience. I like hearing the 'young' Neil finding his way in front of an audience.
    I never really thought about the clapping though, to be honest. It doesn't sound that out of place to me.

    If the clapping and talking had been removed, it would probably make Massey Hall one of the all time greatest acoustic records!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,596
    goldrush said:
    brianlux said:
    As many of you know by now, I'm a HUGE Neil Young fan.  That said, today I was kind of bummed about a very highly regarded NY album: Live at Massey Hall.  I know, you're thinking, WTF, Lux? 

    Let me explain.  I had sample this record on line and felt very iffy about it.

    WTF???, you say again.

    OK, hold on, I'm getting there. 

    I was immediately wary  from the little I sampled because of all the polite audience clapping and Neil's chatter.  So for the last however long it's been, I've kept waffling about getting this one.  Well, today I ran across a CD of it in a thrift store and I thought, "OK, hey!  Now I can check it out!".  I got it home and gave it a play. 

    Two thing bothered me right off.  One, the plastic shrink was open but still on the CD and on that shrink was a sticker that mentioned Starbucks.  Ah oh.  Really? Commercialism popped into my head.

    And then problem #2:  the CD will not navigate in my Marantz CD player with the remote.  No other CD that I own have this problem.  Hmmm, that sucks.

    Problem #3 and #4 (and this is the deal breaker for me):  Again, I am put off by all of the polite clapping that spoils the opening of each of the marvelously performed songs and it sounds hokey to me at the end of each one.  And then there's Neil's chatter.  Neil has such a great voice- it's not that.  It's just that it interrupts the flow of the songs.  If I could hear this record without the clapping and the chatter, I'm guessing it would rank as one of my favorite NY albums.  As it is, I will have to settle for the studio versions of these songs that I love so much leave it at that.   Sad, but true.
    I like his chatter on it.

    I DO NOT LIKE THAT I NEVER BOUGHT THE VINYL.
    I have to say I agree with S_C here. I enjoy the chatter, the guitar tuning, the laughing etc. It makes for a more complete and intimate experience. I like hearing the 'young' Neil finding his way in front of an audience.
    I never really thought about the clapping though, to be honest. It doesn't sound that out of place to me.

    If the clapping and talking had been removed, it would probably make Massey Hall one of the all time greatest acoustic records!

    The performances certainly are great.  As much as I'm a vinyl fan, I'll probably stick with the CD and save my record shopping money for other releases.  Who knows what will show up out of the vault.  Maybe a re-issue of Weld on vinyl!
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    I just ordered the Archives II box set  =)
    It’s $250 for 10 discs, but I kept hold of the 15% discount code I received when I signed up for NYA 2 years ago so it came to $228.47 (including shipping to AUS)




    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Red LukinRed Lukin Canada Posts: 2,994
    Damn I thought about buying it but $340 CND. Basically $34 per CD.  Ouch

    Enjoy goldrush. Looks like a great set!
  • pjpitt89pjpitt89 Posts: 1,817
    Went to a new local shop yesterday and they had “Imports” of Le Noise and Mirrorball, $39 each I think. These are bootlegs I take it? I think one of them had Germany in the fine print. 
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  • Maybe it's like the numbered marble Pearl Jam VS release my friend found in a store yesterday
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    pjpitt89 said:
    Went to a new local shop yesterday and they had “Imports” of Le Noise and Mirrorball, $39 each I think. These are bootlegs I take it? I think one of them had Germany in the fine print. 
    Yeah they must be bootlegs. Le Noise and Mirrorball are so hard to find these days, and never at $39!!
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    Red Lukin said:
    Damn I thought about buying it but $340 CND. Basically $34 per CD.  Ouch

    Enjoy goldrush. Looks like a great set!
    Thanks!
    It looks like there will be a second edition of Archives II fairly soon, and they are also working on Volume III


    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    NYA Concert Performance Timeline coming soon


    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    How aspects of that weren't a full launch feature, I'll never understand. Seemed kinda obvious and simple. But glad they are adding it. 


  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    edited October 2020
    can someone just tag me when anything to do with Mirrorball is announced/released?
    Darwinspeed, all. 

    Cheers,

    HFD




  • Spiritual_ChaosSpiritual_Chaos Posts: 28,869
    edited October 2020
    His site is sluggish and boring. 

    I need to get of my subscription. But didn't solve how last time I was on it. And haven't been back for like half a year. 

    THAT IS HOW THEY GET YOU.

    EDIT: cancelled
    Post edited by Spiritual_Chaos on
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    Clarification from John Hanlon on the criteria for the numbered releases.
    He also confirms that the next ORS box will include Hawks & Doves, Re-Ac-Tor, This Note's For You, and Eldorado.
    As these are release numbers 13,14, 20, and 21 it seems the boxes will skip the Geffen years.


    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • He should rerelease the first boxes with the 180g pressings
    "Mostly I think that people react sensitively because they know you’ve got a point"
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    I guess the stand alones are now 180g. The first box was numbered and thats the difference. But IDK if the box 2 albums have had stand alone releases yet.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    I get skipping the Geffen years, but hopefully he can secure some type of re-release in the ORS.

    Also, kinda weird that he didn't negotiate owning the masters. Maybe thats not something people cared about in 1982.


  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    Goldrush 50th set is coming out. CD in December/Vinyl in march.

    Vinyl set is $100. CD is $15


    As of now (no details are out yet) the vinyl seems to be the album and a 7". yikes.


  • goldrushgoldrush everybody knows this is nowhere Posts: 7,259
    edited October 2020
    Basically $100 for a 7” single with 2 versions of Wonderin’ (and one of the versions was already in the Archives I box) and a lithograph





    Maybe this is Reprise’s way of making the $250 Archives II box look like a bargain.
    Post edited by goldrush on
    “Do not postpone happiness”
    (Jeff Tweedy, Sydney 2007)

    “Put yer good money on the sunrise”
    (Tim Rogers)
  • pjpjpaulpjpjpaul Posts: 1,648
    goldrush said:
    Basically $100 for a 7” single with 2 versions of Wonderin’ (and one of the versions was already in the Archives I box) and a lithograph





    Maybe this is Reprise’s way of making the $250 Archives II box look like a bargain.
     Yeah, seems a bit steep for an lp and 7 inch only. The lp by itself will probably hit retail at a much lower price at some point. 
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  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    I just bought, what is probably the same Chris Bellman cut for $28 last week.

  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    edited October 2020
    I generally don't get down on the cost of vinyl in 2020 (things are more expensive, there isn't a huge quantity of records manufactured to spread out the costs of making a record). But this is INSANELY unreasonable for the content.  Its essentially $70 for a 7" and a Litho (probably a record flat) with different artwork. 

    Post edited by Tim Simmons on
  • GlowGirlGlowGirl New York, NY Posts: 9,701
    edited October 2020
    goldrush said:
    Basically $100 for a 7” single with 2 versions of Wonderin’ (and one of the versions was already in the Archives I box) and a lithograph





    Maybe this is Reprise’s way of making the $250 Archives II box look like a bargain.
    I noticed this blurb mentioned Gary Burden. I dated his son Jesse briefly in the early 2000s. He got us VIP backstage passes to CSNY at the Garden. Never got to meet Neil. But Jesse told me about how Neil Young used to read him bedtime stories when he was a kid. He was great friends with his dad. 
    Post edited by GlowGirl on
  • shorty4568shorty4568 Seattle, WA Posts: 173
    I'm shocked no one has mentioned the addition of the #50 to the cover. That should add a minimum of $50 to value. You can find an OG pressing at almost any record store for $15-$25 or just get the remaster for $23. I was excited when I got the email but quickly passed on this. Definitely not worth it! I'll keep spinning my 1970 pressing at that price. Save that $100 for a rare NY title.
  • Tim SimmonsTim Simmons Posts: 6,865
    yeah, I'd rather use the $100 to buy Broken Arrow.
  • brianluxbrianlux Moving through All Kinds of Terrain. Posts: 40,596
    edited November 2020
    Where did thee years go?  I remember when you could buy After the Gold Rush new for $3.99, maybe less if it was on sale.  I should have bought a stack of them and kept them in a cool, dark, dry place for 50 years.
    “The fear of death follows from the fear of life. A man [or woman] who lives fully is prepared to die at any time.”
    Variously credited to Mark Twain or Edward Abbey.













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