Most of us were wrong about this early on, including both American political parties and nearly every government and health organization on earth.
But that is the reason for caution. It takes time to learn exactly what this novel virus is doing and how to develop a treatment. Splitting society at this early stage (yes, early) into “vulnerable” and non vulnerable groups for isolation where a majority of households consist of both is an strong position and far more damaging to the fabric of society than thinking humans can solve an economic depression caused by a pandemic. That’s exactly what we did for polio and if you think there are protests now, just wait to see if Dr Katz’ separation theories idolized on FOX become reality.
People will not be rushing back to restaurants, stadiums or airplanes anytime soon, no matter what the govt policy is.
There is a difference between me and you being wrong about it and the WHO being wrong about it.
I don't like to be one of "those people" but it'll suck that they're just sitting around...maybe, hopefully, we can get something positive out of all this sitting around. Even if it's just a digital single released late this year.
I'm sure they're working on mystery boxes or some other way to dump the tour merch, but I'd hate for them to sell that stuff when money is tight. Hopefully things look good for a "merch dump" later this year.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
Thanks for the intel, certainly fits in with the timeline and locations rumored for September. Just have to see if its September 2020 or 2021...
2010: Cleveland 2012: Atlanta 2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II 2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver 2015: New York City 2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco 2017: Ohana Fest (EV) 2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II 2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2 2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver 2023: St. Paul II
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
If I was a betting man the fall tour is booked with the spring dates to follow the leg 2 dates. I bet they will sit on those dates as long as they can since they are not announced yet and if the fall is a no go like we think it will be than they move it to spring 2021 or fall 2021.
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
If I was a betting man the fall tour is booked with the spring dates to follow the leg 2 dates. I bet they will sit on those dates as long as they can since they are not announced yet and if the fall is a no go like we think it will be than they move it to spring 2021 or fall 2021.
I think they had the fall tour itinerary in place, were waiting for the announcement date (maybe during or after spring tour). and of course then the spring tour (and ultimately summer leg) got postponed, so no sense announcing the held fall dates since its almost a certainty it won't happen now. Likely everything planned for 2020 will be (hopefully) shifted to a very similar routing and timing for 2021.
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
If I was a betting man the fall tour is booked with the spring dates to follow the leg 2 dates. I bet they will sit on those dates as long as they can since they are not announced yet and if the fall is a no go like we think it will be than they move it to spring 2021 or fall 2021.
I think they had the fall tour itinerary in place, were waiting for the announcement date (maybe during or after spring tour). and of course then the spring tour (and ultimately summer leg) got postponed, so no sense announcing the held fall dates since its almost a certainty it won't happen now. Likely everything planned for 2020 will be (hopefully) shifted to a very similar routing and timing for 2021.
I agree with this. Spring 20 to Spring 21. Fall 20: decide in July if it proceeds or is bumped to Fall 21.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
FWIW, the Fiserv Forum and the Bucks are a client of mine in Milwaukee, and they had Pearl Jam on the list of acts that are scheduled to play the arena in September. No specific date I can share, but I did see them listed on the schedule of events. Remains to be seen if it actually happens...
Thanks for the intel. Definitely fits in with the other rumours
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
The foo fighters rescheduled a show in either Toronto or hamilton for this October
I believe it’s Hamilton for October 1. I wouldn’t bet on that happening though.
That is correct
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
Momsen recently confirmed in a separate interview with Detroit radio station WRIF that RAGE AGAINST THE MACHINE guitarist Tom Morello guests on THE PRETTY RECKLESS's upcoming album, "Death By Rock And Roll". Morello appears on a track called "And So It Went".
Morello joins previously announced guests Kim Thayil and Matt Cameron from SOUNDGARDEN. The song with Cameron and Thayil, called "Only Love Can Save Me Now", was recorded at Seattle's legendary London Bridge Studios, where seminal LPs like PEARL JAM's "Ten" and SOUNDGARDEN's "Louder Than Love" were laid down.
"Death By Rock And Roll", the fourth studio album from THE PRETTY RECKLESS, will arrive in late 2020 or early 2021. It will follow up 2016's "Who You Selling For", which featured the rock radio hits "Oh My God", "Back To The River" and "Take Me Down".
Two shows in Wisconsin At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly. At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both. There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
Two shows in Wisconsin At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly. At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both. There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
Fun to ponder. My gut says Boston probably would have been skipped this time around, but we may never know for sure.
Two shows in Wisconsin At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly. At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both. There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
Fun to ponder. My gut says Boston probably would have been skipped this time around, but we may never know for sure.
The smart money says "Always play New England. It's easy access from NYC and Europe and they can sell a lot of tickets with zero effort."
Yet, if this was a tour of swing states, maybe save the energy.
Maybe eight shows (along with all of Europe and the spring) would have been enough. Baseball in October, then fire things back up in January/February of 2021 for Australia/New Zealand.
Presidential Advice from President-Elect Mike McCready: "Are you getting something out of this all encompassing trip?"
Two shows in Wisconsin At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly. At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both. There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
Damn!!!!! Chicago X2, Milwaukee , Madison and circling back/ starting in Pittsburgh and Cleveland would have been an amazing route trip. Hoping this happens in 2021.
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1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
The Pittsburgh date was supposed to be 9/4, according to someone with knowledge who posted on this or another thread before Covid really hit. What a year this must be in an alternate universe.
PJ: 2013: London (ON); Buffalo; 2014: Cincinnati; 2016: Sunrise, Miami, Toronto 1-2, Wrigley 2; 2018: London (UK) 1, Milan, Padova, Sea 2, Wrigley 1-2, Fenway 1-2; 2021: SHN, Ohana, Ohana Encore 1-2; 2022: LA 1-2, Phx, Oak 1-2, Fresno, Copenhagen, Hyde Park 1-2; Quebec, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto; MSG, Camden, Nashville, Louisville, St. Louis, OKC; 2023: St. Paul 1-2, Chicago 1-2; Fort Worth 2; Austin 1-2
EV Solo: 2017 Louisville and Franklin, 2018 Ohana, 2019 Innings Fest, Berlin, Düsseldorf, Dublin and Ohana; 2021 Ohana Friday (from beach) and Saturday; 2022 Earthlings Newark; 2023 Innings Fest and Benoraya 1-2.
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
Pittsburgh 1998 • Pittsburgh 2006 • 2012 Isle Of Wight Festival • 2012 Made In America Festival • Baltimore 2013 • Seattle 2013 St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022 Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023
The Pittsburgh date was supposed to be 9/4, according to someone with knowledge who posted on this or another thread before Covid really hit. What a year this must be in an alternate universe.
Yup, and I believe the 2 Chicago shows were rumoured to 9/11, 9/12
1996.....Toronto 2005.....Hamilton 2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton 2013.....London, Buffalo 2014.....Detroit 2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1 2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2 2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto 2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2 2024.....????
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The Pittsburgh date was supposed to be 9/4, according to someone with knowledge who posted on this or another thread before Covid really hit. What a year this must be in an alternate universe.
True.
1996: Randall's Island 2 1998: East Rutherford | MSG 1 & 2 2000: Cincinnati | Columbus | Jones Beach 1, 2, & 3 | Boston 1 | Camden 1 & 2 2003: Philadelphia | Uniondale | MSG 1 & 2 | Holmdel 2005: Atlantic City 1 2006: Camden 1 | East Rutherford 1 & 2 2008: Camden 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Newark (EV) 2009: Philadelphia 1, 2 & 4 2010: Newark | MSG 1 & 2 2011: Toronto 1 2013: Wrigley Field | Brooklyn 2 | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore 2015: Central Park 2016: Philadelphia 1 & 2 | MSG 1 & 2 | Fenway Park 2 | MSG (TOTD) 2017: Brooklyn (RnR HOF) 2020: MSG | Asbury Park2021: Asbury Park 2022: MSG | Camden | Nashville 2024: MSG 1 & 2 (#50) | Philadelphia 1 & 2 | Baltimore
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Cincinnati 2014
Greenville 2016
(Raleigh 2016)
Columbia 2016
I don't like to be one of "those people" but it'll suck that they're just sitting around...maybe, hopefully, we can get something positive out of all this sitting around. Even if it's just a digital single released late this year.
I'm sure they're working on mystery boxes or some other way to dump the tour merch, but I'd hate for them to sell that stuff when money is tight. Hopefully things look good for a "merch dump" later this year.
2012: Atlanta
2013: London ONT / Wrigley Field / Pittsburgh / Buffalo / San Diego / Los Angeles I / Los Angeles II
2014: Cincinnati / St. Louis / Tulsa / Lincoln / Detroit / Denver
2015: New York City
2016: Ft. Lauderdale / Miami / Jacksonville / Greenville / Hampton / Columbia / Lexington / Philly II / New York City II / Toronto II / Bonnaroo / Telluride / Fenway I / Wrigley I / Wrigley - II / TOTD - Philadelphia, San Francisco
2017: Ohana Fest (EV)
2018: Amsterdam I / Amsterdam II / Seattle I / Seattle II / Boston I / Boston II
2021: Asbury Park / Ohana Encore 1 / Ohana Encore 2
2022: Phoenix / LA I / LA II / Quebec City / Ottawa / New York City / Camden / Nashville / St. Louis / Denver
2023: St. Paul II
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
Yep!
Seattle 1 & 2, Missoula, Wrigley 1 & 2
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
Morello joins previously announced guests Kim Thayil and Matt Cameron from SOUNDGARDEN. The song with Cameron and Thayil, called "Only Love Can Save Me Now", was recorded at Seattle's legendary London Bridge Studios, where seminal LPs like PEARL JAM's "Ten" and SOUNDGARDEN's "Louder Than Love" were laid down.
"Death By Rock And Roll", the fourth studio album from THE PRETTY RECKLESS, will arrive in late 2020 or early 2021. It will follow up 2016's "Who You Selling For", which featured the rock radio hits "Oh My God", "Back To The River" and "Take Me Down".
Two shows in Wisconsin
At least two in Pennsylvania and maybe three if they did two in Philly.
At least one in Ohio...the rumors were Columbus or Cleveland, but not both.
There were rumors about two in Chicago at a place not named Wrigley Field.
Maybe a return trip to NYC since they couldn't get two in MSG?
Boston? Hartford?
We know Seattle was out.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
The smart money says "Always play New England. It's easy access from NYC and Europe and they can sell a lot of tickets with zero effort."
Yet, if this was a tour of swing states, maybe save the energy.
Maybe eight shows (along with all of Europe and the spring) would have been enough. Baseball in October, then fire things back up in January/February of 2021 for Australia/New Zealand.
"...I changed by not changing at all..."
Chicago X2, Milwaukee , Madison and circling back/ starting in Pittsburgh and Cleveland would have been an amazing route trip. Hoping this happens in 2021.
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????
Gutted: London 2 2018, Sacramento 2022, Noblesville 2023
St. Paul 2014 • Mexico City 2015 • Philadelphia II 2016 • Ottawa 2016 • Amsterdam I & II 2018 • Wrigley Field II 2018 • Phoenix 2022
Apollo Theater 2022 • Chicago I 2023
2005.....Hamilton
2011.....Toronto N1, Toronto N2, Hamilton
2013.....London, Buffalo
2014.....Detroit
2016.....Toronto N1 Toronto N2, Boston N1, Boston N2, Chicago N1
2018.....Seattle N1, Seattle N2
2022.....San Diego, Los Angeles N1, Los Angeles N2, Phoenix, Oakland N1, Oakland N2, Quebec City, Ottawa, Hamilton, Toronto
2023.....Fort Worth N1, Fort Worth N2, Austin N1, Austin N2
2024.....????