I think if they do the proof of vaccination to get into shows its only for this summer/fall and only so they can satisfy the governments requirements to put the shows on this early. After this year though I do not see it as fair to those that chose not to be vaccinated.
So I do not see a scenario where they play Hyde Park in the summer and not be able to play the two US festivals too. What I mean is if the band goes on ahead and plays Hyde Park in July or September the States would have to allow them to play too or I would guess they will pass on all 3. It would be an awkward situation where you play across the pond and deem it safe only to cancel the two shows you have in your home country later on.
So I do not see a scenario where they play Hyde Park in the summer and not be able to play the two US festivals too. What I mean is if the band goes on ahead and plays Hyde Park in July or September the States would have to allow them to play too or I would guess they will pass on all 3. It would be an awkward situation where you play across the pond and deem it safe only to cancel the two shows you have in your home country later on.
They won't be playing Hyde Park, no matter what people make of the mood here in the UK. This is based on the following:
The dates announced by the UK government are "at the earliest". The government has a history of over promising and under delivering during the pandemic. They are already making noises that people won't be able to travel this summer, just 4 weeks after saying it was more positive than ever. There are major outbreaks happening in other European countries and fears that the astra zeneca vaccine is pretty much worthless against some strains of covid. They had said everything lifted in June, no restrictions, however they have now confirmed the idea of allowing fans into stadiums for the Euros this summer is based on one way systems, masks, etc.
I have no link to the band, but everything we know of them and what type of people they are suggests safety is right at the top of their conditions for doing things.
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So I do not see a scenario where they play Hyde Park in the summer and not be able to play the two US festivals too. What I mean is if the band goes on ahead and plays Hyde Park in July or September the States would have to allow them to play too or I would guess they will pass on all 3. It would be an awkward situation where you play across the pond and deem it safe only to cancel the two shows you have in your home country later on.
They won't be playing Hyde Park, no matter what people make of the mood here in the UK. This is based on the following:
The dates announced by the UK government are "at the earliest". The government has a history of over promising and under delivering during the pandemic. They are already making noises that people won't be able to travel this summer, just 4 weeks after saying it was more positive than ever. There are major outbreaks happening in other European countries and fears that the astra zeneca vaccine is pretty much worthless against some strains of covid. They had said everything lifted in June, no restrictions, however they have now confirmed the idea of allowing fans into stadiums for the Euros this summer is based on one way systems, masks, etc.
I have no link to the band, but everything we know of them and what type of people they are suggests safety is right at the top of their conditions for doing things.
I agree with the July date not being feasible but feel like the rumoured September date should be. Will it happen? Probably not. Should it happen? I think it should if everyone in the UK has been vaccinated that wants to and if they put restrictions on those that come in from other countries to be vaccinated as well. I am not a huge fan on restrictions but if it means we get shows this year opposed to getting nothing I am all for it.
The UK dates are aspirational but with today’s news on results of the AZ US trial I choose to remain optimistic.
100% across the board on all vaccines protecting against severe symptoms, hospitalizations and deaths. That number can only go down of course but it is incredible to have 4 vaccines that perform this well currently.
Are we really not going to have concerts this fall with those numbers due to people not wanting to get the vaccine and us being nowheres close to herd immunity?
It’s important to remember that herd immunity can be reached through vaccines and those recovered from infection. It should be reached by the end of summer. Latest Pew Research poll found that 69% of people will vaccinate (19 have at least one dose, 32 said definitely, 17 said probably). Add in those a growing number of anti-vaxxers recovering from infection and we should clear herd immunity, or certainly be very close by end of summer.
PJ and many other large event acts may choose to wait out of an abundance of caution, not to mention that many cities/states may still not allow full capacity events or want to promote the type of travel that comes with such events. Late summer and fall will be a great opportunity to support smaller venue local music. I’m super excited about that. I can wait for 2022 and PJ.
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Still currently only 10% capacity (obviously that will change in the coming months), but the digital smart phone proof of vaccination discussed gives some insight into how this can be managed, and they will also be providing same day covid tests for those without proof of vaccination.
During the bidding period, Leiweke dangled the possibility of an “extended residency” with hometown rock giants Pearl Jam. The band’s longtime manager Kelly Curtis, who quietly retired last year, took part in an advisory board that made recommendations on the arena’s sound and concert experience. No deal is done, though unsurprisingly, Leiweke’s willing to toss ’em the keys anytime the ticket-selling juggernauts would like.
“I’ve always made it very clear to the band, this is their city and this is their building and they can do with it as they see fit,” he says.
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Promising news here in NJ... hopefully moving in the right direction for Sea.Hear.Now
With all that is going on in the world and society, the Rage bassist is concerned about selling out by playing smaller shows. Get a grip dude and stop taking yourself so seriously. That comment is proof that the person has left the realm of reality.
Dave Chappelle playing 4 shows at Foxwoods casino in CT in late June. No social distancing, full capacity. All patrons will be given a rapid Covid test before entering the theater. If they test positive they will be denied entry along with the rest of their party. Its a 2,000 seat theater. Think that's about as big a venue as you could do this for. No way you could test 15-20K people for an arena show.
Anyone ever hear of Moon Taxi or The Caverns? Apparently this is how some smaller bands are approaching playing in 2021 and I'd love to see an EV acoustic show like this (doubt it happening but I'd take it).
Went to this on Satruday and it was great. It was so awesome to be at a show again. It was a little "different" with the social distanced pods, but it did not kill the vibe.
Dave Chappelle playing 4 shows at Foxwoods casino in CT in late June. No social distancing, full capacity. All patrons will be given a rapid Covid test before entering the theater. If they test positive they will be denied entry along with the rest of their party. Its a 2,000 seat theater. Think that's about as big a venue as you could do this for. No way you could test 15-20K people for an arena show.
That’s awesome. There is an absolute difference between playing a place that is sold out vs. 20% full. For everyone involved, the artist and the fans. Dave Chappelle is helping to lead. I bet PJ could pull off rapid tests for 18K. Let’s go!
Dave Chappelle playing 4 shows at Foxwoods casino in CT in late June. No social distancing, full capacity. All patrons will be given a rapid Covid test before entering the theater. If they test positive they will be denied entry along with the rest of their party. Its a 2,000 seat theater. Think that's about as big a venue as you could do this for. No way you could test 15-20K people for an arena show.
That’s awesome. There is an absolute difference between playing a place that is sold out vs. 20% full. For everyone involved, the artist and the fans. Dave Chappelle is helping to lead. I bet PJ could pull off rapid tests for 18K. Let’s go!
Rapid tests or just require proof of vaccination which everyone who wants to attend can acquire by showtime with the postboned dates finally announced months ahead of time. Let’s go!!!
Rapid tests OR proof of full vaccination would get us back to concerts this year without a doubt. Especially if the Texas Rangers pull off a full capacity baseball game and we dont see any sort of signs of it being a "super spreader" , I think the flood gates will open.
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If I wasn't vaccinated, I wouldn't set foot in a venue relying on rapid tests.
Agree. I just got vaccinated and debating on trying an outdoor astros game soon. Biden said 90% of adults could be eligible in 3 weeks. If this is the case, and there is a vaccination passport rollout like they’re trying in NY, I think we could see some major shows late this year
If I wasn't vaccinated, I wouldn't set foot in a venue relying on rapid tests.
This.
While I would not go either why would you not be vaccinated in that case though? We are talking about the future here. Are you not able to get vaccinated in the next couple of months? It is a non issue is it not by summer since you will be vaccinated?
Some will get vaccinated and some won't. The rapid tests while not 100% reliable are there to prevent someone that is symptomatic getting into the show and is more than likely not vaccinated. Nobody is asking you today to go to a full show not vaccinated and having to rely on rapid tests.
If I wasn't vaccinated, I wouldn't set foot in a venue relying on rapid tests.
This.
While I would not go either why would you not be vaccinated in that case though? We are talking about the future here. Are you not able to get vaccinated in the next couple of months? It is a non issue is it not by summer since you will be vaccinated?
Some will get vaccinated and some won't. The rapid tests while not 100% reliable are there to prevent someone that is symptomatic getting into the show and is more than likely not vaccinated. Nobody is asking you today to go to a full show not vaccinated and having to rely on rapid tests.
Yah reality is a thing and life rolls on. Lots of planning goes into tours and the planners have to plan ahead. Maybe not a great example but let’s say MSG is under construction today but will be open in six months. They are capable of booking the tour stop for when the venue will be back open regardless of it being closed today. This sounds so obvious and I get that the pandemic has been less predictable than a construction schedule but the trajectory of vaccination availability and the proven effectiveness of the vaccine should be sufficient for planning a tour stop six months out from today.
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The dates announced by the UK government are "at the earliest".
The government has a history of over promising and under delivering during the pandemic.
They are already making noises that people won't be able to travel this summer, just 4 weeks after saying it was more positive than ever.
There are major outbreaks happening in other European countries and fears that the astra zeneca vaccine is pretty much worthless against some strains of covid.
They had said everything lifted in June, no restrictions, however they have now confirmed the idea of allowing fans into stadiums for the Euros this summer is based on one way systems, masks, etc.
I have no link to the band, but everything we know of them and what type of people they are suggests safety is right at the top of their conditions for doing things.
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Are we really not going to have concerts this fall with those numbers due to people not wanting to get the vaccine and us being nowheres close to herd immunity?
Late summer and fall will be a great opportunity to support smaller venue local music. I’m super excited about that. I can wait for 2022 and PJ.
Here's an article with more info about it: https://www.lohud.com/story/news/2021/03/22/knicks-rangers-covid-tests-fans-tickets/4801229001/
Still currently only 10% capacity (obviously that will change in the coming months), but the digital smart phone proof of vaccination discussed gives some insight into how this can be managed, and they will also be providing same day covid tests for those without proof of vaccination.
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Small update on the Seattle shows.
https://www.seattletimes.com/entertainment/music/inside-seattles-climate-pledge-arenas-ambitious-plans-to-become-a-top-10-music-venue/?fbclid=IwAR14G2L-na_SbdfNe2i7zXp7Lm3wxaTJ9VyD4c4H11tzjwMzabY1yWF96G8
During the bidding period, Leiweke dangled the possibility of an “extended residency” with hometown rock giants Pearl Jam. The band’s longtime manager Kelly Curtis, who quietly retired last year, took part in an advisory board that made recommendations on the arena’s sound and concert experience. No deal is done, though unsurprisingly, Leiweke’s willing to toss ’em the keys anytime the ticket-selling juggernauts would like.
“I’ve always made it very clear to the band, this is their city and this is their building and they can do with it as they see fit,” he says.
No social distancing, full capacity.
All patrons will be given a rapid Covid test before entering the theater. If they test positive they will be denied entry along with the rest of their party.
Its a 2,000 seat theater. Think that's about as big a venue as you could do this for. No way you could test 15-20K people for an arena show.
Dave Chappelle at Foxwoods | Mashantucket, CT
Went to this on Satruday and it was great. It was so awesome to be at a show again.
It was a little "different" with the social distanced pods, but it did not kill the vibe.
I honestly thought that concerts would be 2022 , I am thinking that we will see some shows in 2021. Smaller shows (4K tops ) but still live music.
I thought that there was no way I was going to even get my first does of the vaccine until June ( 42 & healthy ) and I am getting it on Thursday.
We may be surprised
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Some will get vaccinated and some won't. The rapid tests while not 100% reliable are there to prevent someone that is symptomatic getting into the show and is more than likely not vaccinated. Nobody is asking you today to go to a full show not vaccinated and having to rely on rapid tests.
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