Shut out once again. Ten Club, I would like an explanation

I don't care what they say about the new Best Available option, IMO if you want to get in the door at all costs for the one show that you can't miss, you put down Reserved.  I get it if you have a really high 10c number and you're almost better off with a public sale or finding a spare instead, but if it means enough to you to be there any you have decent seniority you should go reserved.  I have yet to be completely skunked on the a tour when I put in RES as my 1st priority per show.  

There's a much smaller number of GA tickets now matter what the odds say, and if you're prioritizing that, your odds are going to go down.

I don't even trust BA honestly, because in my mind, if ALL the requests are getting calculated at once I would assume it's going to prioritize GA first.

If GA processes at the same time as RES then I feel like RES is going to be going down in availability at the same time that GA is.  So if you picked BA, Not only are you getting one of the GA tix because it tried to fill that for you first, but the number of RES is going to be equally dropping or even going faster.  Your chance at RES may effectively become the 3rd pass of allocations, and you could be outta luck by then.  

I put in for 1) MSG RES, 2) BAL RES, and 3) SD BA.  I'm only using BA on SD because it would be nice if I got a GA for one show but it's not going to break my heart if I don't have to fly cross country and take vacation time to be there.

Gonzo1977 said:

BennyLaRue said:

Yep - exactly what you were promised though so this shouldn't be news.

  Great business model. We'll automatically take money out of your account each year, make you believe you're accumulating seniority by staying a member....but then we slowly take away all the benefits you originally signed up for in the first place, take your money and give you nothing of value in return.  I feel like I'm enrolled in Trump University.

The business model works since you keep handing them money. You don't have to. Honestly man, I'm bummed they don't rub my back when I buy a Big Mac but I'm not going to complain about it - I know what comes with the Big Mac.

JimmyV said:

Gonzo1977 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Gonzo1977 said:

Great! so as I now understand this system....neither seniority, time of request, show or seat preference have anything to do with getting Pearl Jam tickets at your local show. It's now truly a lottery system, and being a 10 club member for over 25 years, means you get a T-shirt and an email every once in a while about various charities and heads up about vault shows that you can buy from the 10 club for a higher price than on Amazon. Nice !!      

It's been this way a long time

Never had an issue getting tickets before

So you missed out on tickets once and now think the membership that got you tickets every time before has little/no value?

Exactly. What is the value of a 10 club membership now? A chance to play the lottery? 

Sounds like someone didn't download his bootleg

JR86440 said:

Right. I received the password so wouldn't that be the unique identifier??? You get a password, you should be able to get tickets. Simple as that

What's to stop anyone from just putting in random numbers then? Need to marry it up with a valid email address. A specific, valid email address associated with the 10C account.

Gonzo1977 said:

JimmyV said:

Gonzo1977 said:

NewfieintheUSA said:

Gonzo1977 said:

Great! so as I now understand this system....neither seniority, time of request, show or seat preference have anything to do with getting Pearl Jam tickets at your local show. It's now truly a lottery system, and being a 10 club member for over 25 years, means you get a T-shirt and an email every once in a while about various charities and heads up about vault shows that you can buy from the 10 club for a higher price than on Amazon. Nice !!      

It's been this way a long time

Never had an issue getting tickets before

So you missed out on tickets once and now think the membership that got you tickets every time before has little/no value?

Exactly. What is the value of a 10 club membership now? A chance to play the lottery? 

Yes.  If thousands of 10c members want tickets to the same show why should they all not have the same opportunity?

indifferentman said:

I don't care what they say about the new Best Available option, IMO if you want to get in the door at all costs for the one show that you can't miss, you put down Reserved.  I get it if you have a really high 10c number and you're almost better off with a public sale or finding a spare instead, but if it means enough to you to be there any you have decent seniority you should go reserved.  I have yet to be completely skunked on the a tour when I put in RES as my 1st priority per show.  

There's a much smaller number of GA tickets now matter what the odds say, and if you're prioritizing that, your odds are going to go down.

I don't even trust BA honestly, because in my mind, if ALL the requests are getting calculated at once I would assume it's going to prioritize GA first.

If GA processes at the same time as RES then I feel like RES is going to be going down in availability at the same time that GA is.  So if you picked BA, Not only are you getting one of the GA tix because it tried to fill that for you first, but the number of RES is going to be equally dropping or even going faster.  Your chance at RES may effectively become the 3rd pass of allocations, and you could be outta luck by then.  

I put in for 1) MSG RES, 2) BAL RES, and 3) SD BA.  I'm only using BA on SD because it would be nice if I got a GA for one show but it's not going to break my heart if I don't have to fly cross country and take vacation time to be there.

It is likely you will at least win reserved with a BA for San Diego 

BennyLaRue said:

JR86440 said:

Right. I received the password so wouldn't that be the unique identifier??? You get a password, you should be able to get tickets. Simple as that

What's to stop anyone from just putting in random numbers then? Need to marry it up with a valid email address. A specific, valid email address associated with the 10C account.

Seriously? There were 5 numbers in the password. You know how many different combinations there are? Also, if you received confirmation from Ticketstoday, then everything should be fine. Why send confirmation if everything doesn't add up??

indifferentman said:

I don't care what they say about the new Best Available option, IMO if you want to get in the door at all costs for the one show that you can't miss, you put down Reserved.  I get it if you have a really high 10c number and you're almost better off with a public sale or finding a spare instead, but if it means enough to you to be there any you have decent seniority you should go reserved.  I have yet to be completely skunked on the a tour when I put in RES as my 1st priority per show.  

There's a much smaller number of GA tickets now matter what the odds say, and if you're prioritizing that, your odds are going to go down.

I don't even trust BA honestly, because in my mind, if ALL the requests are getting calculated at once I would assume it's going to prioritize GA first.

If GA processes at the same time as RES then I feel like RES is going to be going down in availability at the same time that GA is.  So if you picked BA, Not only are you getting one of the GA tix because it tried to fill that for you first, but the number of RES is going to be equally dropping or even going faster.  Your chance at RES may effectively become the 3rd pass of allocations, and you could be outta luck by then.  

I put in for 1) MSG RES, 2) BAL RES, and 3) SD BA.  I'm only using BA on SD because it would be nice if I got a GA for one show but it's not going to break my heart if I don't have to fly cross country and take vacation time to be there.

My guess is that they have changed the way they draw.  In previous lotteries they pulled GA first starting with priority #1.  Once that pool was over, they moved onto the lower priority pools.  Once all GA tickets were awarded they started the Reserved draw beginning again with priority #1 and moving on until all tickets were awarded.

I believe that with Best Available they should be drawing ALL priority #1 requests (GA, Reserved, and BA) at the same time.  If your name gets pulled and you have GA or BA and GA is available then you get assigned GA.  If your name gets pulled and you entered BA and the GA tickets are gone, you get awarded Reserved.  Again, once the #1 priority pool is over they move to the next priority.

Again, this is only a guess.  They weren't completely transparent on the old draw process and the new one is even murkier.