Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

JB16057 · December 2019

The 10c is at fault here as well as PJ. We pay our dues to the 10c, not PJ. This has gotten pretty pathetic. Of course there are bigger issues in the world but it's sad when a band treats their fans like this especially for so long. In the meantime, they are able to release vinyl records for sale with no issues.

"...the communication has been absymal and its a shame(SHAM) really."

jeffbr · December 2019

FR181798 said:

We've been told that these are forthcoming? What more do you guys want/need to know?

Just joking, the communication has been absymal and its a shame really. The singles were the reason I joined the club and I always looked forward to them. But theyve been unpredictable in their delivery for almost as long as I remember. People expect more in the digital age. Subscriptions all automated etc so you would think that better communication would go hand in hand.

Another problem I see is that unless they release a live take from a show the headlines would be that PJ has released new music for the first time in 6 years and probably not what they want to be judged on. Might never see these until after the album.

I'm with you. With this band's communication, "forthcoming" means jack shit. The album has been forthcoming for years. The singles have been forthcoming for years. Forthcoming is a word they use to shine us on. How great would it be if we could use "forthcoming" with parties we have outstanding obligations to. My car payment is "forthcoming". Sure that would go over well. I don't want to ever hear the band say forthcoming again. As soon as they say that I know they're bullshitting us as they have been for the past couple of years.

PB11041 · December 2019

JimmyV · December 2019

We're past "forthcoming." We were told they were being "finalized."

cincybearcat · December 2019

JimmyV said:

We're past "forthcoming." We were told they were being "finalized."

When was that again?

JimmyV · December 2019

cincybearcat said:

JimmyV said:

We're past "forthcoming." We were told they were being "finalized."

When was that again?

The newsletter a few months ago. October, I believe.

JB16057 · December 2019

There's a big difference between their new album and the annual singles. Lets not forget about the missing DEEP magazines as well. We've already paid for the singles and DEEP.

We haven't paid for their new album. It can be as forthcoming as it needs to be. The singles and DEEP on the other hand should(have) be some priority.

antelope · December 2019

JimmyV said:

cincybearcat said:

JimmyV said:

We're past "forthcoming." We were told they were being "finalized."

When was that again?

The newsletter a few months ago. October, I believe.

It was September, so three months ago.

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JB16057 · December 2019

3 months isn't that long ago but they did announce that MTV Unplugged would be available on vinyl in October(2 months ago) and it's already in the hands of many people.

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

If Pearl Jam cared, it wouldn't be like this. If they felt bad about this current situation, they would address it head on. The 10c blames the band. Sorry, but the band didn't just forget that they were supposed to make these records. Whether they forgot or not, the 10c should be putting a lot of pressure on the band to get this finished especially since they decided to stop making the annual singles anyway.

Another thing that Tim said in that response shows at least how he feels about the situation, "I'd like to apologize to those subscribers who have expressed frustration in the delay." That's a slap in the face. I would like to officially apologize to Tim and the rest of the 10c for expressing frustration that they aren't doing the right thing. Sorry, not sorry.

jeffbr · December 2019

JB16057 said:

There's a big difference between their new album and the annual singles. Lets not forget about the missing DEEP magazines as well. We've already paid for the singles and DEEP.

We haven't paid for their new album. It can be as forthcoming as it needs to be. The singles and DEEP on the other hand should(have) be some priority.

Agreed. However, they already have our $$$ for the 2 Deeps and 2 Singles. So that takes away their urgency (although as you noted, it shouldn't). Their main focus is on extracting more $$$ from us via merch, shows and at some forthcoming point, new music.

brianlux · December 2019

This morning I got one of those slips in my post office box telling me I had a package to pick up. For about 5 seconds I got excited thinking... "Could it be?"

Nah, just some junk mail to big for my p.o. box. What was I thinking?!

Some day, many years from now, on that great list of unsolved mysteries, the assassination of JFK will still be up toward the top of the laist and the question as to who is responsible for the annual singles not being released will be several thousand notches lower.

And we'll still be waiting.

moozeekfan · December 2019

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

stuckinline · December 2019

brianlux said:

This morning I got one of those slips in my post office box telling me I had a package to pick up. For about 5 seconds I got excited thinking... "Could it be?"

Nah, just some junk mail to big for my p.o. box. What was I thinking?!

Some day, many years from now, on that great list of unsolved mysteries, the assassination of JFK will still be up toward the top of the laist and the question as to who is responsible for the annual singles not being released will be several thousand notches lower.

And we'll still be waiting.

Maybe Keith Morrison can solve the mystery of the missing annual singles.

PB11041 · December 2019

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

there are way more than 4, where are you getting that number from?

https://vinyl-pressing-plants.com/all-vinyl-pressing-plants-list/countries/United-States-of-America/

cincybearcat · December 2019

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

4-6 month wait huh? Look at how long these have been overdue. This is not a factor.

Spiritual_Chaos · December 2019

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

Lol.

Bands plan releases. Pearl Jam is a band.

norm · December 2019

JB16057 said:

I filed a complaint with the Washington State Attorney General office.

OK so it's been a few years since I've wallowed into Pit but I see not only hasn't it changed, it's gone full infantile. This is hilariously pathetic. Well done sir and/or madam.

moozeekfan · December 2019

Spiritual_Chaos said:

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

Lol.

Bands plan releases. Pearl Jam is a band.

They plan around a 4-6 month wait for vinyl, yes. Like every other band.

The fan club singles getting “finalized” unfortunately doesn’t mean they’re immediately shipping. Could just mean everything’s getting ready to go to the plant, which means summer 2020 if it’s up to six months.

moozeekfan · December 2019

cincybearcat said:

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

4-6 month wait huh? Look at how long these have been overdue. This is not a factor.

It’s a small factor once everything is finalized. You still have to plan around it when it comes to vinyl.

I think most people would have been fine with releasing the singles digitally and then TC or someone saying “Hey, the 45s are in production and we’ll let you know when they’ll be ready to ship.” They may still do that before the year is up. Who knows?

moozeekfan · December 2019

PB11041 said:

moozeekfan said:

JB16057 said:

In Tim's response to the Washington State Attorney General's Office, he said "because of the nature of creating vinyl records, there is not an exact date we can provide to the customers." Sorry, but I do not buy into this. Vinyl record sales are growing. If a multi-million dollar band can't find a company to make vinyl records in a timely manner or with an in hands date, they aren't trying very hard.

There is approximately a 4-6 month wait to get a record made at a vinyl plant. that’s what Tim is referring to. There are currently four plants in America making vinyl records, so it’s not a question of Pearl Jam being able to go in at any time and physically get a record created. They wait in line like every other band.

there are way more than 4, where are you getting that number from?

https://vinyl-pressing-plants.com/all-vinyl-pressing-plants-list/countries/United-States-of-America/

I should have been more specific, I apologize. There are four for lack of a better term “major” plants in the country, United being the biggest and one of the better options for a band like Pearl Jam.

Hey how about those 2 missing Ten Club singles!

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