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  • Fifthelement
    Fifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,965
    Matts3221 said:

    I would say anyone on this tread should take a moment to reflect on life and remember this is the holidays. For those that suffer this can be the hardest time of year for some of us. So keep that in mind.


    Retraining your brain was mentioned above is something that takes so much work but can be so very helpful. I worked on this for years in therapy and the way it was first explained to me helped me understand it better. Basically think of your brain as a trail in the woods.  For years you have been going down the trail of hating on yourself , negative thoughts ect ect. The trail is laid down pack you walk it everyday. You need to start a new trail and that is not easy you are going into the forest with no path , however with a lot of work and support that forest will soon have a light foot path and can become your new path of thinking.

    Had a high level panic attack today that last for the last three hours. I was able to finally talk myself down , not perfect I have tons of issues and I hope I never come off as preachy , just trying to share anything that has helped me in hopes that it helps you.

    That’s a great visual tool Matts.  And you’re right, the holidays can be a real trial for many.  Finding a space to be safe is so important.

    I'm so sorry that you experienced a bad panic attack today.  I’m glad you were eventually able to talk yourself down.  (((Hugs)))

    I think we are all just trying to share techniques that we’ve learned, whether through therapy or not, that may or may not work for others.  It’s good for those who are currently in a “good place,” as well, cause the “bad place” is always there in the back of your mind waiting to catch you unaware.  The more we share about our experiences, the more tools we have at our disposal to help manage our everyday lives.

    Change is scary, even if it means you’ll eventually be in a better place.  It’s hard to leave what’s comfortable and familiar even if it is toxic.  This is a wonderful space to share and support each other even if we can’t be here everyday.

    Sending love and light to all who need it, now and in the future.
    "What the CANUCK happened?!? - Esquimalt Barber Shop
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    SD48277 said:
    Matts3221 said:
    It was a comment I left about Greta Van Fleet on a music page.
    I don't know the guy, he's from another city.
    It happens all the time which is why it gets to me. Probably why I'm still single and have never had a girlfriend. I genuinely do not like the way I look and people on Facebook have made it clear there is something not right with my appearance. 
    I deactivated my old account because of this and started with a new account. Same thing again.


    Thoughts Arrived , please don't take this the wrong way but you are placing yourself out there for failing. I understand all too well depression / anxiety / self loathing ect. I went from the ages of 15-30 without really getting much help or very little , with some more self caring about myself from 30-35 , really worked on myself from 35-40 and can say that with a times this year 40 has been the healthiest year I have had mentality.

    Cleary you have ( if I am wrong please let me know ) low self esteem , you don't seem to think much of yourself and read very much into what someone says or does not say to you. So putting yourself out online with open comments is just asking to get comments made about you. For the most part any comment section on an internet board is going to be filled with hate and making fun of others.

    I would ask , what do you care what this person you have never met thought about you? I think I have said before but you should really set a goal for 2020 that you will just care for yourself , don't worry about dating , don't worry what others will think of you any of that. Just focus on loving yourself , finding what brings you happiness ( not what others think will make you happy ) and just live a year without worrying about those things. Hopeful combining that with therapy will make you feel more comfortable in your skin and these little things will not pull you over the edge. I really think that is a much deeper matter for you than the one off comments , I just think those are the last straw for you and you take it so hard.

    I wish you all the best , happy to chat with you about technicians you could use ( mindfulness is very helpful ) , snowed all day and night here yesterday , around 4pm I was ready to just take a nap but I knew that would sleep till 8pm and then just go back to bed at 10pm. I pulled myself out of bed and went to the gym and just jogged for an hour. I know this is easier said than done and I give myself a pat on the back for how far I have come , just a year ago I would have taken the nap.

    Be well , take care of yourself and get off social media :)

    Thank you for your reply.
    I haven't taken it the wrong way.
    I don't know why but I just care. I haven't stopped thinking about it since.
    I hate how everyone stares at me when I go out to do grocery shopping at the local shopping plaza. 
    I feel like a freak. I genuinely feel like I am ugly which is why people make fun of me and stare.
    Well done for pushing yourself to go to the gym and for improving yourself.

    Right now I just feel like I cannot do anything right.
    A job I applied for in October seems to have not eventuated. Have not heard from the place I applied.
    And all those jobs I had to apply for in order to receive my unemployment welfare payments I have heard nothing back.
    I started art classes and feel like I am not good enough. Tonight is my third class and I'm thinking is there a point to spending my money.
    The point of taking a class is to learn, to improve. If the teacher had nothing to teach you, that would be a waste of your money. Go into this with Beginner's Mind, as the Buddhists say. Go to the National Gallery of Victoria (general entry is free). Don't compare, but be inspired. Go to the Botanical Gardens, and take pictures of what you find beautiful or interesting. Throw out whatever this limited mindset is that you are currently holding. 
    Thanks.
    I take it you've been to my city seeing you know about the NGV and Botanical Gardens?
    I go annually to the NGV. There's a Basquiet & Haring exhibition right now but I am not into that kind of art.
    The last time I went to the Botanical Gardens was Christmas day last year to take photos for painting. 
    And from those many photos I have not yet painted one. I started one recently but abandoned it as it was not working out which is why I decided to take lessons. 
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    edited December 2019
    Matts3221 said:

    I would say anyone on this tread should take a moment to reflect on life and remember this is the holidays. For those that suffer this can be the hardest time of year for some of us. So keep that in mind.


    Retraining your brain was mentioned above is something that takes so much work but can be so very helpful. I worked on this for years in therapy and the way it was first explained to me helped me understand it better. Basically think of your brain as a trail in the woods.  For years you have been going down the trail of hating on yourself , negative thoughts ect ect. The trail is laid down pack you walk it everyday. You need to start a new trail and that is not easy you are going into the forest with no path , however with a lot of work and support that forest will soon have a light foot path and can become your new path of thinking.

    Had a high level panic attack today that last for the last three hours. I was able to finally talk myself down , not perfect I have tons of issues and I hope I never come off as preachy , just trying to share anything that has helped me in hopes that it helps you.

    Sorry to hear about your panic attack :(
    Thank you for the visualisation.
    And I agree, this time of the year is always tough especially if you are single.
    Every Christmas me and my mum have a huge fight and it is always her that starts the fight. I dread this Christmas as I know what is coming.
    Last year I had to leave the house and go to the city's botanical gardens to escape as I had nowhere else to go. So decided to walk around all day taking photos.
    And the past two new years eve's I've been home with noone to ring in the new year with and that sucks.
    Post edited by Thoughts_Arrive on
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Matts3221 said:

    I would say anyone on this tread should take a moment to reflect on life and remember this is the holidays. For those that suffer this can be the hardest time of year for some of us. So keep that in mind.


    Retraining your brain was mentioned above is something that takes so much work but can be so very helpful. I worked on this for years in therapy and the way it was first explained to me helped me understand it better. Basically think of your brain as a trail in the woods.  For years you have been going down the trail of hating on yourself , negative thoughts ect ect. The trail is laid down pack you walk it everyday. You need to start a new trail and that is not easy you are going into the forest with no path , however with a lot of work and support that forest will soon have a light foot path and can become your new path of thinking.

    Had a high level panic attack today that last for the last three hours. I was able to finally talk myself down , not perfect I have tons of issues and I hope I never come off as preachy , just trying to share anything that has helped me in hopes that it helps you.

    That’s a great visual tool Matts.  And you’re right, the holidays can be a real trial for many.  Finding a space to be safe is so important.

    I'm so sorry that you experienced a bad panic attack today.  I’m glad you were eventually able to talk yourself down.  (((Hugs)))

    I think we are all just trying to share techniques that we’ve learned, whether through therapy or not, that may or may not work for others.  It’s good for those who are currently in a “good place,” as well, cause the “bad place” is always there in the back of your mind waiting to catch you unaware.  The more we share about our experiences, the more tools we have at our disposal to help manage our everyday lives.

    Change is scary, even if it means you’ll eventually be in a better place.  It’s hard to leave what’s comfortable and familiar even if it is toxic.  This is a wonderful space to share and support each other even if we can’t be here everyday.

    Sending love and light to all who need it, now and in the future.
    Thanks S.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Matts3221 said:

    I would say anyone on this tread should take a moment to reflect on life and remember this is the holidays. For those that suffer this can be the hardest time of year for some of us. So keep that in mind.


    Retraining your brain was mentioned above is something that takes so much work but can be so very helpful. I worked on this for years in therapy and the way it was first explained to me helped me understand it better. Basically think of your brain as a trail in the woods.  For years you have been going down the trail of hating on yourself , negative thoughts ect ect. The trail is laid down pack you walk it everyday. You need to start a new trail and that is not easy you are going into the forest with no path , however with a lot of work and support that forest will soon have a light foot path and can become your new path of thinking.

    Had a high level panic attack today that last for the last three hours. I was able to finally talk myself down , not perfect I have tons of issues and I hope I never come off as preachy , just trying to share anything that has helped me in hopes that it helps you.

    That’s a great visual tool Matts.  And you’re right, the holidays can be a real trial for many.  Finding a space to be safe is so important.

    I'm so sorry that you experienced a bad panic attack today.  I’m glad you were eventually able to talk yourself down.  (((Hugs)))

    I think we are all just trying to share techniques that we’ve learned, whether through therapy or not, that may or may not work for others.  It’s good for those who are currently in a “good place,” as well, cause the “bad place” is always there in the back of your mind waiting to catch you unaware.  The more we share about our experiences, the more tools we have at our disposal to help manage our everyday lives.

    Change is scary, even if it means you’ll eventually be in a better place.  It’s hard to leave what’s comfortable and familiar even if it is toxic.  This is a wonderful space to share and support each other even if we can’t be here everyday.

    Sending love and light to all who need it, now and in the future.


    I know not everything will work for everyone but I think it is great for us all to share. Although the panic attack was very hard ( I ended up taking yesterday off of work ) , I went back to the Dr. yesterday , have been to the Gym 9 times since I saw him a couple of weeks ago and I think that is doing a good deal of work.

    Anxiety and Depression is something that never goes away , however as I get older and work ever year for well over 15+ at this point , I am happy that instead of a spiral that could last days / weeks and even a month + at times I can tend to deal with it in a few hours. It is much harder when I am at work because I cannot just think of myself , if I am home makes life a lot easier.

    Thank you for the hugs and love from everyone and I really do think of you all on this board almost everyday. This is such a great outlet to talk and share and learn.

    Thank you all and I be well today.

  • Just checking in with everyone. Even if you only read this and don't post , I hope everyone has a healthy weekend and know there will never be a cure but it will get better. If you are having a down Friday or weekend , remember us on this board and know we are with you and even if online there is a group of people whom care greatly about those on this board.
  • Fifthelement
    Fifthelement Lotusland Posts: 6,965
    Hi @Matts3221.  Thanks for checking in with everyone.  I hope that you, and everyone else, has a healthy weekend also.  
    "What the CANUCK happened?!? - Esquimalt Barber Shop
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Thanks Matts and S.
    Matts, glad to hear your symptoms are not as long lasting as they once were.
    I'm doing good thus far.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I'm struggling to find the motivation to do anything. Stuck on my phone on the couch or in bed. This feeling of loneliness is too hard to bear.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    And my mum made a comment about my face yesterday that's made me even more self conscious.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Tell her you got your face from her


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • For  everyone trying  your best i salute you. 
    I often think of you all, and i wish for some peace and peace for you all. If it doesnt come now it may come soon. Keep trying in your own way its enough.
    I look around me and im having a lot of times a feeling that i wont be here too much longer. I feel like i need to make things  clear with loved  ones. 
    Im even doubting that  im living with the right people my feelings  are numb and dead. Until i cry at the  smallest thing  and lifes cruelty to vunerable people gets me.  You know this  heart is a gift  and a curse. 
    I wonder how i will be remembered. A councillor from mind i see listed my qualities from what she has seen and she was correct. I realise i am all those good things and more. Sad that this had to happen to me when i was so outgoing and helpful now jist a shell . Empty


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • I had a flashback from  a pj gig in amsterdam when i met a lady who travelled alone from usa. Never been to europe before. And i took it upon myself to wait for her after the show and walk her across amsterdam to her hotel to make sure she wasnt so scared anymore. That is who i am, a memory of help and selflessness when i could have been partying with friends i never see, i was helping a scared  alone lady. 
    All this tour stuff under my nose is killing my heart. So many people see pj are playing and txt and call me assuming im doing this gig.  That gig like the old days. 
    I miss them all and i miss me. I miss me.


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • https://youtu.be/-uOWfBTND2s 
    This day was when gigs all changed for me. When i realised fear was bigger than any dream and any home. I cried and i felt faint and had full panic attack i queued for 40hrs or something unhealthy. As the  music started  at the beginning of the gig  i cried so much i had made it to where  i thought  would make it all better and it could all dissolve. Ed held my hand during porch and i was crying and i felt like it was meant to be me that day. I tried after to achieve another dream in krakow and failed. But the start of this video my dear friend  "bigger " filmed this intetaction with ed and mike.  It seems like it was someone else. And now it was. It WAS me. Its not now. I will  be forever grateful  to my friends. Ewa. Keith. Simone.  Jason. Nicole. Tomek. Richard. All the people who held me when i fell . So i could have that moment. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Thank you for bravely sharing Rob.
    You have a big heart and the world needs more of that. I really hope that you one day beat your demons. We are all here for you. Anytime.

    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    After my previous post earlier today I forced myself to do 30 minutes of excercise on a bike and to do a still life artwork. It took my mind off my things. But that's just temporary, I can't do activities non stop.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • njnancy
    njnancy Posts: 5,096
    Hey all.  Just popped in from my self‐imposed isolation cause I have a song on my Spotify top 2019 list that made me think about this thread & all youse guys & how these diseases know no demographic boundaries. 

    The lyrics & the instrumental intro/outro capture the feeling of anxiety so well. 

    Anxiety by Jason Isbell & the 400 Unit (named after a local psych ward)....


    https://youtu.be/-Yq3mFI6J1Q

  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    I had my appointment with my psychologist today. He asked me to put myself out there and go to as many events as possible in the next month. Alone or with someone. Main thing is I spend as little time at home as possible, to overcompensate with social activities.
    He wants me to take risks meeting people.
    And then he wants to see if that makes me feel better.

    I saw my GP today too and unbeknownst to me, the psychiatrist I saw 2 weeks ago recommended an anti-anxiety drug as she observed that I was very anxious. I told my GP I don't want to take it. I don't feel I need it. I am always very anxious in appointments.

    Anyways, I decided to go to my favourite cafe alone for coffee and lunch after my appointment. My psychologist wants me to not focus on being alone at places I go to, to not link it back to me.

    So, I need to find places/events to go to in the next month. Gosh I wish I had more friends. My few friends are so busy that I cannot just call them and catch up at short notice. Not easy when people are busy with work, relationships, kids.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • Thoughts_Arrive
    Thoughts_Arrive Melbourne, Australia Posts: 15,165
    Tell her you got your face from her
    She mentioned it again as I was leaving home for my appointment. I'm so paranoid I keep looking in the mirror.
    Adelaide 17/11/2009, Melbourne 20/11/2009, Sydney 22/11/2009, Melbourne (Big Day Out Festival) 24/01/2014
  • You must see  your parents are killing your soul. 


    this song is meant to be called i got shit,itshould be called i got shit tickets-hartford 06 -