Donald Trump

mfc2006 said:

BS44325 said:

mfc2006 said:

BS44325 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

What a colossal failure of the media.  We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting.  The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.  

Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news.  They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.

I wouldn't blame this on the media:

"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."

Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?

To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.

I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that  Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged.  So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.

So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.

I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.

You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.

Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released. 

One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.

I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.

Thanks for explaining the full report and for answering my question regarding if this was the only investigation. I appreciate that. By "not an act" do you mean that you are Barr? Rosenstein? Mueller? Trump? I seriously doubt that.

I can come to grips with a lot. You don't know me or know what I've been through in my life. What I can't come to grips with is the holier than thou attitude that some people have, including yourself.

I've accepted the fact that he is our current president, and that he probably won't be removed/impeached before the next election. I get it it because I know these things take time and I would rather the investigations be thorough than a rush to judgment. What I TRULY don't understand is how anyone in their right mind can support his actions, behavior, rhetoric and bullshit. If you can, that's your choice. I look forward to reading your viewpoints when ALL of the shit hits the fan.

BS44325 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

What a colossal failure of the media.  We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting.  The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.  

Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news.  They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.

I wouldn't blame this on the media:

"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."

Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?

To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.

I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that  Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged.  So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.

So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.

I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

It was not a witch hunt. It was a legally authorized investigation. The witch hunt is about to begin.

OnWis97 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

It was not a witch hunt. It was a legally authorized investigation. The witch hunt is about to begin.

Huh?

I suppose you mean investigating the potential treason connected to the bullshit dossier.  It's probably necessary.  It's only problematic if it's not honest (which is possible).