Donald Trump

mfc2006

mfc2006 said:

BS44325 said:

mfc2006 said:

BS44325 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

What a colossal failure of the media.  We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting.  The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.  

Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news.  They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.

I wouldn't blame this on the media:

"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."

Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?

To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.

I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that  Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged.  So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.

So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.

I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.

You act like you know everything, so please enlighten us. Seriously. I can't take the Barr/Rosenstein summary as the end of the road...because everyone should understand that it is NOT the end of the road. Yet you seem to pounce and celebrate. If this is "winning"...I don't want to win.

Again, please explain the full report to us when you get a chance. Oh wait...it hasn't been released yet. And chances are that it never will be fully released. 

One follow up question....
Is this the only investigation? Just curious.

I do know everything. It is not an act. At some point you will all need to come to grips with that.

Thanks for explaining the full report and for answering my question regarding if this was the only investigation. I appreciate that. By "not an act" do you mean that you are Barr? Rosenstein? Mueller? Trump? I seriously doubt that.

I can come to grips with a lot. You don't know me or know what I've been through in my life. What I can't come to grips with is the holier than thou attitude that some people have, including yourself.

I've accepted the fact that he is our current president, and that he probably won't be removed/impeached before the next election. I get it it because I know these things take time and I would rather the investigations be thorough than a rush to judgment. What I TRULY don't understand is how anyone in their right mind can support his actions, behavior, rhetoric and bullshit. If you can, that's your choice. I look forward to reading your viewpoints when ALL of the shit hits the fan.

Still no response. I’m shocked.

mrussel1

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

dignin said:

mcgruff10 said:

mrussel1 said:

BS44325 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

What a colossal failure of the media.  We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting.  The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.  

Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news.  They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.

I wouldn't blame this on the media:

"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."

Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?

To me its the master of Right. Because Mueller would just stay silent and allow that to happen. And Rosenstein would participate in the charade as well. And they wouldn’t anticipate that anybody would want to check. Welcome toconspiracy land.

Huh? You need to think clearly.  It was just released today.  I expect that if the full report isn't released,  then Mueller will be called to testify.  The DOJ or WH counsel would likely have a lawyer there and could claim some questions violate privilege.  
What we have now is not the end,  rather the first and the WH hopes lasting spin on the report. 

Halifax2TheMax

BS44325 said:

bootlegger10 said:

Lerxst1992 said:

bootlegger10 said:

What a colossal failure of the media.  We need to get away from the pundits and get back to news reporting.  The “Jump to Conclusions” game from Office Space would sell out in New York and DC.  

Trump is still a disgusting person, unfit to be President, and a crook, but the media got this Russia nonsense way wrong and just drives a bigger wedge in the country instead of just reporting the news.  They played right into Trump’s Fake News rhetoric. Tough to disagree right now.

I wouldn't blame this on the media:

"The attorney general also stated that Mueller did not reach a conclusion on whether President Trump committed any offenses relating to obstruction of justice.

"The Special Counsel states that 'while this report does not conclude that the President committed a crime, it also does not exonerate him,' " the letter reads."

Honestly, I don't know wtf that means. If he didn't commit a crime why is he not exonerated?

To me its the master of the Iran Contra coverup back to perform his magic.

I took it to say that there was no findings of collusion with Russia, but that  Trump may have obstructed the investigation but not enough to be charged.  So, no Russia collusion but likely some lies by the President.

So I took it that the investigation was whether there was collusion and the answer is a clear no.

I look forward to watch people claim Trump obstructed an investigation into a crime he never committed. Please. Keep going. I want to spike more footballs. I am not yet sick of the winning.

You’re like the Atlanta Falcons going up 21-3
in the super bowl and Devin Nunes is your QB. Bahahahahahahahahahaha!

Halifax2TheMax

Does anyone think that those who were convicted, are awaiting trial or copped a plea wished they just told the truth? The whole shit show could have been avoided if only,

“There was no collusion.”

”I don’t know any Russians.”
”I have nothing to hide.”
”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
”We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

OnWis97

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

Halifax2TheMax

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

It was not a witch hunt. It was a legally authorized investigation. The witch hunt is about to begin.

OnWis97

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

It was not a witch hunt. It was a legally authorized investigation. The witch hunt is about to begin.

Huh?

I suppose you mean investigating the potential treason connected to the bullshit dossier.  It's probably necessary.  It's only problematic if it's not honest (which is possible).

Thirty Bills Unpaid

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

I read your second paragraph a couple times.

Your bleak outlook is not out of the realm of possibilities. The US is within tenuous times and I agree that the outcome of the investigation has likely had the effect of galvanizing his supporters (and taken the wind out of the sails of his opponents somewhat).

Eesh.

Halifax2TheMax

OnWis97 said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

OnWis97 said:

So here's where we are.  It actually was a witch hunt.  The Trump campaign is clean.  Most likely, the entire thing was done based on lies and treason.  Trump is polarizing, but roughly 50% popular.  The economy is humming, he's doing pretty well abroad.  And he's now survived a witch hunt.  He's actually been an effective president.  Or, at least, things have gone well despite him. His unprofessionalism and twitter trolling doesn't really matter to many people and the fact that his very existence pisses off the left is an asset at election time.  

That said, we still need him out badly.  His following is still cult-like and it's increasing.  I still believe we are on the road to authoritarianism.  He's been effective. That's actually pretty common for dictators.  The courts are no longer being stacked with right-leaning and left-leaning upholders of the law.  They are being stacked with party loyalists. And, the people in control (Trump, the GOP, and the voters) are letting the earth burn to own the libs. 

But the witch hunt might render the 2020 election a one-party election.  Please GOP, start caring about the country ahead of owning the libs.  The libs are owning themselves.

It was not a witch hunt. It was a legally authorized investigation. The witch hunt is about to begin.

Huh?

I suppose you mean investigating the potential treason connected to the bullshit dossier.  It's probably necessary.  It's only problematic if it's not honest (which is possible).

Damn. There’s a legal track and a political track. Team  Mueller was the legal track. The political track is about to begin. Remember Benghazi? Oh, and by the way, you’re trusting a 4 page summary by those hand picked? Let’s see the full report and allow the legislative branch to “check” or pump the brakes, yo! 28-3.

Halifax2TheMax

Matt Yiabbi and all the media are to blame? Are you fucking kidding me? The “spin” and the media’s inability is to blame? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Oh, right, blackness. Like I said, the report has been issued, the dem house will review and eventually will indict. Impeachment is coming.

Mueller back to pass, first down Patriots.

Halifax2TheMax

Oh, and by the way? One way to understand what’s going on, other than Marvin Gaye? Yo, gay yo, is to see John Kasich Ohio, surrender!, where’s the civility, I don’t know John I think it left in the Reagan morning in America. Talk about unhinged? Kasich wants dems to just stop, like BS. Sorry, We’s got a running game.

Halifax2TheMax

Poppadopealoss. Start there. Then back up. And wonder.

Halifax2TheMax

OFF THE TURNBUCKLE,  comes a screaming elbow to the shoulder! Ouch! What’s going on?

Meltdown99

https://twitter.com/Imamofpeace/status/1110065446378602497

Trump was out celebrating the Meuller report...

Spiritual_Chaos

https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1110031109658562560

tbergs

Spiritual_Chaos said:

https://twitter.com/DavidOAtkins/status/1110031109658562560

Is this guy serious? He must not understand how the legal system works. People make a deal to avoid getting their entire life dragged through a public trial when the evidence is that overwhelming. All those rich assholes knew their only option was to plea and cooperate or spend lots of money to be even more publicly humiliated.

josevolution

Subpoenas are on their way Cummings is not going to just let 4 pages of fat boys bullshit fly not on his watch ! This will be great to watch ...

ikiT

4 PAGES.

FOUR.  

https://www.lawfareblog.com/bill-barrs-very-strange-memo-obstruction-justice

He is not exonerated.

my2hands

Halifax2TheMax said:

Matt Yiabbi and all the media are to blame? Are you fucking kidding me? The “spin” and the media’s inability is to blame? Whatever happened to personal responsibility? Oh, right, blackness. Like I said, the report has been issued, the dem house will review and eventually will indict. Impeachment is coming.

Mueller back to pass, first down Patriots.

You still think impeachment is coming?

Lol

josevolution

Still thee most corrupt individual to ever occupy the WH and the 50% that allow him to be this way are no better deplorables indeed , even here we have a few ...