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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,583
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,464
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Was it a failure to convince or suppression, some driven by Putin on the ritz but most by repub legislatures?
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 20,069
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MNPosts: 1,889
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Why not both?  I don't think there's any doubt that the Dems did a bad job (first with even nominating her but then in almost every way possible).  But that doesn't mean it wasn't influenced by the Russians in coordination with the campaign because they have something on Trump.  At this point the idea that he's not at least in some ways serving Russia seems bordering on impossible.  And they clearly seemed to be sticking their noses in to help Trump.  Are those two things coincidence? 
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  • CM189191CM189191 Minneapolis via ChicagoPosts: 4,583
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
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  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 20,069
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,034
    edited January 24
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Post edited by tbergs on
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
  • mcgruff10mcgruff10 New JerseyPosts: 20,069
    edited January 24
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    Head of the CIA and eight years as vp lol.
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    Post edited by mcgruff10 on
    I'll ride the wave where it takes me......
  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,034
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    The only problem wrong with that comparison is that he was actually elected and wasn't that good of a candidate, but who the hell wanted Dukakis? There's a reason GHWB was 1 term and done. Hillary probably would have been the same, just like Trump should be, but we tend to hand out 2 terms like candy these days.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,733
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    You're kidding right? 

    Calling her the most qualified candidate ever was a fucking joke.  GHWB's resume runs circles around Hillary's.
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    President Trump's daughter-in-law Lara Trump says federal employees currently furloughed or working without pay due to the partial government shutdown are experiencing a "little bit of pain" for the "future of our country."

    https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/01/24/government-shutdown-lara-trump-little-bit-pain-sot-ac360-vpx.cnn
    Well if it was for a worthwhile cause it would be temporary pain for longterm gain.  Instead its for a wall....that people will climb over, dig under, go around, go through....
    build stairs on the other side! :D
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South PhillyPosts: 11,717
    To rattle off the "accomplishments" and positions of someone's political career isn't to say they're the most qualified. Voters obviously don't vote based on qualifications as evident with who is in now.
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    I see there are some big fans of that HRC support and YES vote on the Iraq Invasion? Yeah, she was a Senator lol
  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    If she was so qualified maybe she would have gone to the midwest 

    Just stop with the Hillary nonsense... she sucked as a political candidate and got beat twice because of it, save the qualified noise
  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,733
    edited January 24
    Everything HRC did the moment her husband won the presidency was designed to get her into that same spot years later. I think that's the main difference between someone like her and someone like Bush Sr who nearly lost his life serving this country.

    And, of course, his list of accomplishments in government vastly overshadowed hers anyway. 

    Always bugged me when Obama would say that during the campaign. 
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  • Jearlpam0925Jearlpam0925 Deep South PhillyPosts: 11,717
    my2hands said:
    If she was so qualified maybe she would have gone to the midwest 

    Just stop with the Hillary nonsense... she sucked as a political candidate and got beat twice because of it, save the qualified noise
    my2hands said:
    I see there are some big fans of that HRC support and YES vote on the Iraq Invasion? Yeah, she was a Senator lol
    Trying to pick up where I'm advocating support for Clinton here?  What I will say, again, is that there's nothing needed to be qualified to go to voters in PA, WI and MI - hubris keeps you from doing so and going to Georgia and Arizona instead.

    Her policy for improving Obamacare had my vote alone, though.
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,752
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    She was qualified for sure.  Most qualified?  I personally don't think so.  I believe governors are generally more qualified than senators....they are the presidents of their state.

    Hillary is:
    1) Well educated
    2) Practicing lawyer (Childrnes defense fund?)
    3) Former First lady
    4) Senator
    5) Secretary of State

    So - education...understanding of the law...understanding of white house activities...won statewide election...was part of an admin in one of if not the most important assignments (my opinion).  All good.

    But if we are talking ever?  There were some highly qualified presidents way back.  I think you could easily include her in the discussion...and it's not unreasonable to pick her.  But personally I think it's either Jefferson or Monroe.  But I'm probably forgetting someone!
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    Shit, Nixon was more qualified.... that worked out great lol
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,752
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    The only problem wrong with that comparison is that he was actually elected and wasn't that good of a candidate, but who the hell wanted Dukakis? There's a reason GHWB was 1 term and done. Hillary probably would have been the same, just like Trump should be, but we tend to hand out 2 terms like candy these days.
    GHWB was 1 and done because while he was terrific at foreign policy, he ignored domestic too long.  Even though his policies domestically ended.  He wasn't a good politician.

    Why do you think he was 1 and done?
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  • tbergstbergs Posts: 6,034
    my2hands said:
    If she was so qualified maybe she would have gone to the midwest 

    Just stop with the Hillary nonsense... she sucked as a political candidate and got beat twice because of it, save the qualified noise
    Yeah, no shit. Who here disputed her horrible campaign? You called her a shitty candidate and got a differing response. I think the point was that qualifications do not get you elected, at least when your name has been smeared enough to leave a bad taste in everyone's mouth just saying it. It's hard to argue against her when nothing she was or is even compares to president shitbag. I'm not advocating for her, just saying to try and justify her losing based on being a shitty candidate suggests the other candidate was better. Obviously the country made a choice and here we are.
    It's a hopeless situation...
  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,464
    And with Hillary, we wouldn't have putin on the ritz pulling strings, NATO and the UN being demonized, degradation of of our military and intelligence services, a government shut down over a stupid border wall and a president who understands the constitution, separation of powers and how to navigate and work with Congress to get shit done, and be able to explain policy and legislation so the average person could understand it. And we certainly wouldn't have this shit going down:

    DemocracyPost

    For two years, Trump has been undermining American democracy. Here’s a damage report.

    The president has consistently attacked institutions, norms and the very notion of democracy itself.

    By Brian Klaas  •  Read more »

    Suckers.
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  • The JugglerThe Juggler Behind that bush over there.Posts: 34,733
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    The only problem wrong with that comparison is that he was actually elected and wasn't that good of a candidate, but who the hell wanted Dukakis? There's a reason GHWB was 1 term and done. Hillary probably would have been the same, just like Trump should be, but we tend to hand out 2 terms like candy these days.
    GHWB was 1 and done because while he was terrific at foreign policy, he ignored domestic too long.  Even though his policies domestically ended.  He wasn't a good politician.

    Why do you think he was 1 and done?
    Although him going against the republican grain and increasing taxes spurred an economic boom after he left office....
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,464
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    The only problem wrong with that comparison is that he was actually elected and wasn't that good of a candidate, but who the hell wanted Dukakis? There's a reason GHWB was 1 term and done. Hillary probably would have been the same, just like Trump should be, but we tend to hand out 2 terms like candy these days.
    GHWB was 1 and done because while he was terrific at foreign policy, he ignored domestic too long.  Even though his policies domestically ended.  He wasn't a good politician.

    Why do you think he was 1 and done?
    "Read my lips, no new taxes."
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  • Ledbetterman10Ledbetterman10 Posts: 11,552
    It doesn't even matter who's "qualified" for the job. Look at Clinton in '92, Obama in '08, and Trump in '16. They were all less "qualified" than their opponents. But they were all good public-speakers and they type of people that voters can become a "fan" of. 
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  • my2handsmy2hands Posts: 17,118
    And with Hillary, we wouldn't have putin on the ritz pulling strings, NATO and the UN being demonized, degradation of of our military and intelligence services, a government shut down over a stupid border wall and a president who understands the constitution, separation of powers and how to navigate and work with Congress to get shit done, and be able to explain policy and legislation so the average person could understand it. And we certainly wouldn't have this shit going down:

    DemocracyPost

    For two years, Trump has been undermining American democracy. Here’s a damage report.

    The president has consistently attacked institutions, norms and the very notion of democracy itself.

    By Brian Klaas  •  Read more »

    Suckers.
    Now that I mostly agree with
  • cincybearcatcincybearcat Posts: 12,752
    tbergs said:
    my2hands said:
    tbergs said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    mcgruff10 said:
    CM189191 said:
    my2hands said:
    More accurately the blind R's detached from Nixon when the audio tape leaked. 

    Less than the population of a college football stadium made the difference. Dems need to work harder this time around - simple as that.
    Or stop being influenced by Putin on the ritz and think critically.
    Whatever - no excuses. Dems should be able to make up that 90k of voters regardless. 
    Whatever? An American election was swayed by Russian influence, most likely in knowing coordination with Team Trump Treason. And the question remains, why? What does putin on the ritz have over Team Trump Treason?

    I believe people are in denial about the power of social media and too embarrassed to admit that they fell for it, whether it was they thought they could vote from their phone or that Hillary gave birth to alien babies. Voters need to smarten the fuck up.
    Or Dems didn't convince blacks and union households to vote for their shitty candidate 

    Whatever makes you feel better
    Most qualified presidential candidate ever
    That was a good joke. 
    ever.
    Lol. Henry clay, john McCain, George h bush
    Maybe your dislike of Hillary is clouding your thinking here, but how was she not the most qualified to be president ever? The people you listed don't even come close when it comes to political career resume leading up to being president.

    Edit - I guess GHWB is pretty close.
    Pretty close? Lol
    The only problem wrong with that comparison is that he was actually elected and wasn't that good of a candidate, but who the hell wanted Dukakis? There's a reason GHWB was 1 term and done. Hillary probably would have been the same, just like Trump should be, but we tend to hand out 2 terms like candy these days.
    GHWB was 1 and done because while he was terrific at foreign policy, he ignored domestic too long.  Even though his policies domestically ended.  He wasn't a good politician.

    Why do you think he was 1 and done?
    Although him going against the republican grain and increasing taxes spurred an economic boom after he left office....
    Crap... I typed "Even though his policies domestically ended up improving the country"....I have no idea how I accidentally deleted that part!

    Yes I agree with you.  He did good work.  Just could be a politician.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 21,464
    It doesn't even matter who's "qualified" for the job. Look at Clinton in '92, Obama in '08, and Trump in '16. They were all less "qualified" than their opponents. But they were all good public-speakers and they type of people that voters can become a "fan" of. 
    I would never consider Team Trump Treason a "good" public speaker. He'd lose a 5th grade debate.
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