Donald Trump

Thirty Bills Unpaid

The Juggler said:

34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 

So how can we assume that the rest of the public isn’t the same ratio?

Is geography a factor?

vaggar99

cincybearcat said:

Tiki said:

Fuck that guy.

Always adding so much. You really should try harder, I bet you have some good to contribute.

I second.  Fuck him some more.

mickeyrat

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1088161284439318529

I'd be interested in other's honest takes on this issue.  Cause IMO, while trump has been losing the battles on the shutdown and the wall and looking like a child with his canceling of planes...this is a petty act by Pelosi.  My initial take.  And it gives trump a, "See how they treat me as president" opportunity.  I do not see the value in what Pelosi is doing.  Trump put her in a bad spot and won this stupid battle.

I thought that at first because it gave Trump the rare opportunity to take the high road. Then he turns around and makes her get off the airplane runway last week. So he doubled down on her pettiness.

At this point, I am glad that she held her ground. I don't think she had a choice. The problem in her initial canceling letter was citing security concerns. The reasoning should always have been just because the government is shut down. That makes sense to not have a state of the union while he has his own government shut down. The whole thing is pretty childish though. 

And to expect the secret service and capitol police to provide the heightend level of security without pay. At least Nancy doesn't want to further rub salt in the wound.

Yeah that's fair.  But they will be working anyhow without pay

I honestly don't know what I would do if in her shoes.  Maybe the same, though like Juggler mentioned it would have been better to make the reason the shutdown only.  But I also still think this gives him a little ammo....and he was all out of it before then.  This is really petty all around.  My opinion is congress should be in chambers...in session until passing government funding.  The president should be in the oval office until he signs something.  They should be working round the clock...and since Trump is being a baby, keep sending him bills.  The fact that they can just not work (and still get paid) while others are working and not being paid is ridiculous.

Nancy, Chuck and Lindsey thought they had a deal. Team Trump Treason listens to his president, Ann Coulter, and VP, Rushbo, and walks away from it. Then Team Trump Treason invites Chuck and Nancy to the Oval Office to negotiate but instead is a petulant man child not interested in policy specifics but bluster and embarrassmnet, who then goes on to say that he'll own the shut down because he's a "tough" guy. Team Trump Treason can't be trusted nor is he willing to compromise. He's not the smartest guy in the room. Fuck him, he owns it, fully.

That’s the shutdown. What about the SOTU?

unless a deal was reached and that forum was used to announce, I think its bad optics for Trump to come give it. On the other hand, opposition gets the opportunity to rebut afterwards. That might be a good tell in who the DNC (Pelosi as the titular head of the party , favors in 2020)

cincybearcat

vaggar99 said:

cincybearcat said:

Tiki said:

Fuck that guy.

Always adding so much. You really should try harder, I bet you have some good to contribute.

I second.  Fuck him some more.

Hahahah I knew you liked sloppy seconds!!!

mickeyrat

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 

So how can we assume that the rest of the public isn’t the same ratio?

Is geography a factor?

interesting, ALL registered voters. When only 57% or so of all registered voters did in fact vote.

mrussel1

mickeyrat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 

So how can we assume that the rest of the public isn’t the same ratio?

Is geography a factor?

interesting, ALL registered voters. When only 57% or so of all registered voters did in fact vote.

58% off eligible voters,  voted.  Not 58% of registered..

mickeyrat

mrussel1 said:

mickeyrat said:

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 

So how can we assume that the rest of the public isn’t the same ratio?

Is geography a factor?

interesting, ALL registered voters. When only 57% or so of all registered voters did in fact vote.

58% off eligible voters,  voted.  Not 58% of registered..

yes. got away from myself a little there.

the point holds though.

Hi!

Speaking of polls, did you see, if not already mentioned, Trumps approval among Hispanics is at 50%. He’s working hard!

PJ_Soul

Hi! said:

Speaking of polls, did you see, if not already mentioned, Trumps approval among Hispanics is at 50%. He’s working hard!

josevolution

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1088161284439318529

I'd be interested in other's honest takes on this issue.  Cause IMO, while trump has been losing the battles on the shutdown and the wall and looking like a child with his canceling of planes...this is a petty act by Pelosi.  My initial take.  And it gives trump a, "See how they treat me as president" opportunity.  I do not see the value in what Pelosi is doing.  Trump put her in a bad spot and won this stupid battle.

I thought that at first because it gave Trump the rare opportunity to take the high road. Then he turns around and makes her get off the airplane runway last week. So he doubled down on her pettiness.

At this point, I am glad that she held her ground. I don't think she had a choice. The problem in her initial canceling letter was citing security concerns. The reasoning should always have been just because the government is shut down. That makes sense to not have a state of the union while he has his own government shut down. The whole thing is pretty childish though. 

And to expect the secret service and capitol police to provide the heightend level of security without pay. At least Nancy doesn't want to further rub salt in the wound.

Yeah that's fair.  But they will be working anyhow without pay

I honestly don't know what I would do if in her shoes.  Maybe the same, though like Juggler mentioned it would have been better to make the reason the shutdown only.  But I also still think this gives him a little ammo....and he was all out of it before then.  This is really petty all around.  My opinion is congress should be in chambers...in session until passing government funding.  The president should be in the oval office until he signs something.  They should be working round the clock...and since Trump is being a baby, keep sending him bills.  The fact that they can just not work (and still get paid) while others are working and not being paid is ridiculous.

Nancy, Chuck and Lindsey thought they had a deal. Team Trump Treason listens to his president, Ann Coulter, and VP, Rushbo, and walks away from it. Then Team Trump Treason invites Chuck and Nancy to the Oval Office to negotiate but instead is a petulant man child not interested in policy specifics but bluster and embarrassmnet, who then goes on to say that he'll own the shut down because he's a "tough" guy. Team Trump Treason can't be trusted nor is he willing to compromise. He's not the smartest guy in the room. Fuck him, he owns it, fully.

That’s the shutdown. What about the SOTU?

What about the state of the union do you think the country is in good shape that he should go up there and toot his own horn with a shutdown still on ? he should be man enough to do the state of the union and take full responsibility for it !

Halifax2TheMax

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

cincybearcat said:

Halifax2TheMax said:

The Juggler said:

cincybearcat said:

Kat said:

https://twitter.com/cspan/status/1088161284439318529

I'd be interested in other's honest takes on this issue.  Cause IMO, while trump has been losing the battles on the shutdown and the wall and looking like a child with his canceling of planes...this is a petty act by Pelosi.  My initial take.  And it gives trump a, "See how they treat me as president" opportunity.  I do not see the value in what Pelosi is doing.  Trump put her in a bad spot and won this stupid battle.

I thought that at first because it gave Trump the rare opportunity to take the high road. Then he turns around and makes her get off the airplane runway last week. So he doubled down on her pettiness.

At this point, I am glad that she held her ground. I don't think she had a choice. The problem in her initial canceling letter was citing security concerns. The reasoning should always have been just because the government is shut down. That makes sense to not have a state of the union while he has his own government shut down. The whole thing is pretty childish though. 

And to expect the secret service and capitol police to provide the heightend level of security without pay. At least Nancy doesn't want to further rub salt in the wound.

Yeah that's fair.  But they will be working anyhow without pay

I honestly don't know what I would do if in her shoes.  Maybe the same, though like Juggler mentioned it would have been better to make the reason the shutdown only.  But I also still think this gives him a little ammo....and he was all out of it before then.  This is really petty all around.  My opinion is congress should be in chambers...in session until passing government funding.  The president should be in the oval office until he signs something.  They should be working round the clock...and since Trump is being a baby, keep sending him bills.  The fact that they can just not work (and still get paid) while others are working and not being paid is ridiculous.

Nancy, Chuck and Lindsey thought they had a deal. Team Trump Treason listens to his president, Ann Coulter, and VP, Rushbo, and walks away from it. Then Team Trump Treason invites Chuck and Nancy to the Oval Office to negotiate but instead is a petulant man child not interested in policy specifics but bluster and embarrassmnet, who then goes on to say that he'll own the shut down because he's a "tough" guy. Team Trump Treason can't be trusted nor is he willing to compromise. He's not the smartest guy in the room. Fuck him, he owns it, fully.

That’s the shutdown. What about the SOTU?

Team Trump Treason tells 15 lies a day and can’t be trusted. With the government shut down, I wouldn’t give him the opportunity to sully the house. I’m not sure I’d allow him to give it with the government open. He can hold a rally in Kentucky. Maybe Covington Catholic would invite him or Liberty University?
 

mcgruff10

Congress gets paid so their butts should be there for the sotu.

my2hands

Enough already... 

Someone tell Bobby to stop screwing around

vaggar99

can't wait to read the SOTU 280 characters at a time

Halifax2TheMax

my2hands said:

Enough already... 

Someone tell Bobby to stop screwing around

Team Mueller ain’t screwing around and if there’s one time when I want gubmint to be perfect, it’s with this investigation, regardless of how it turns out (y’all know how I think it’ll turn out).

“There was no collusion.”
”I don’t know any Russians.”
”I have nothing to hide.”
”I’ll sit down and talk to anyone.”
”We do everything by the book.”

“Only the guilty plea the fifth.”

“Very legal, very cool.”

Follow the money, from Russia with love and a PTape, all the way to impeachment.

tbergs

I'm sure those that want less government are thrilled about Trump right now and are helping keep his approval numbers above 30%. 

Ledbetterman10

Thirty Bills Unpaid said:

The Juggler said:

34% of all registered votes support him, per that poll. 

So how can we assume that the rest of the public isn’t the same ratio?

Is geography a factor?

I've always been kinda dismissive of polls like this. 34% of ALL registered voters support him? I wasn't polled. In fact, I've been a registered voter for 17 years and I haven't once been polled in any way. 

I half kidding there. There's obviously some sort of mathematics/science behind polls that makes it credible because they often times predict the correct outcomes. But I didn't buy the polls during the 2016 election because I felt there were a lot of closeted Trump supporters (I actually knew a couple personally) that didn't want to admit they supported him because they'd be made fun of for it. I think there are more of those Trump voters than there are MAGA-hat-wearing Trump fans. I  wonder if his horrible presidency will flip those "closeted" voters....because his fans aren't going anywhere. But they're just a vocal minority. 

cincybearcat

vaggar99 said:

can't wait to read the SOTU 280 characters at a time

This is awesome! 

vaggar99

cincybearcat said:

vaggar99 said:

can't wait to read the SOTU 280 characters at a time

This is awesome! 

every once in a while

Bentleyspop

Very sad that this is even necessary.... 

https://twitter.com/chefjoseandres/status/1087869534101561345?s=19