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  • BentleyspopBentleyspop Craft Beer Brewery, Colorado Posts: 10,537
    edited May 2020
    ikiT said:

    it really is incredible, the cognitive dissonance.  
    yeah really, i was thinking the same thing.

    so really, trumpfans, which is it?

    is the president immune while president, or does that only apply to trump?
    Waste of time to ask the fans of the currently elected president to respond and explain and or defend him.

    They're afraid of getting called names
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,644
    edited May 2020
    I really dig the fact this Sullivan, big on defendants rights its reported, is seeking legal jusification to jail that fucker independent of DoJ dropping charges or rather in spite of them......
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    The question becomes, would their disclosure have influenced any of the votes to impeachment or remove? I'm sure CYA Barr will appeal because 

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    Judge in Roger Stone case orders Trump administration to turn over Ukraine emails

    mmmm   emails

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    "stay in jail" orders.
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,149
    #OBAMAGATEGATE is trending, lol
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  • OnWis97OnWis97 St. Paul, MN Posts: 4,822
    #OBAMAGATEGATE is trending, lol

    They named the scandal before the wrote the story of what "happened."
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,149
    OnWis97 said:
    #OBAMAGATEGATE is trending, lol

    They named the scandal before the wrote the story of what "happened."
    apparently nothing happened and they are writing the narrative as they go.

    i cannot wait for obama to jump into the race to help joe. trump will regret ever having obama's name in his mouth.
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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    #OBAMAGATEGATE is trending, lol
    Gate-Gate. Sounds about right to me. :)

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007

    Appeals court lets emoluments lawsuit against Trump proceed


    https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/14/politics/appeals-court-emoluments-trump-hotel/index.html

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,149
    lindsey is a calculating politician. she knows if they bring obama in to testify it will blow up in GOP faces. i guarantee obama has ALL of the receipts can can back up all of his position.
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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    It's already blowing up in their faces. McConnell saying that a former president should have shut up, did NOT go over well with many, many people and so it was trending on Twitter this morning. Since President Obama spoke again anyway, it was a clear response to being told he should shut up. Interesting way for a Russian asset to fire up a lot of people who will be voting for Joe Biden. Attacking Barack Obama will not work.
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    Kat said:
    It's already blowing up in their faces. McConnell saying that a former president should have shut up, did NOT go over well with many, many people and so it was trending on Twitter this morning. Since President Obama spoke again anyway, it was a clear response to being told he should shut up. Interesting way for a Russian asset to fire up a lot of people who will be voting for Joe Biden. Attacking Barack Obama will not work.
    It’ll work for the 35%-42% of the deplorable base. 
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,149
    Kat said:
    It's already blowing up in their faces. McConnell saying that a former president should have shut up, did NOT go over well with many, many people and so it was trending on Twitter this morning. Since President Obama spoke again anyway, it was a clear response to being told he should shut up. Interesting way for a Russian asset to fire up a lot of people who will be voting for Joe Biden. Attacking Barack Obama will not work.
    It’ll work for the 35%-42% of the deplorable base. 
    obama is waaaay more popular than trump ever will be. obama will get people out to vote, assuming trump does not cancel the election.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Kat said:
    It's already blowing up in their faces. McConnell saying that a former president should have shut up, did NOT go over well with many, many people and so it was trending on Twitter this morning. Since President Obama spoke again anyway, it was a clear response to being told he should shut up. Interesting way for a Russian asset to fire up a lot of people who will be voting for Joe Biden. Attacking Barack Obama will not work.
    It’ll work for the 35%-42% of the deplorable base. 
    obama is waaaay more popular than trump ever will be. obama will get people out to vote, assuming trump does not cancel the election.
    i've been thinking about this. i mean, i put nothing past this loser these days. who has authority over when and where the election happens? does the current president have anything official they have to do for it to take place? or is it a neutral body that does that? would trump have the power to try to delay the election, say, if the virus goes apeshit in the next few months and he uses that as a way to weasel his way out of losing?

    i'm no conspiracy theorist, but it occurred to me that trump and his cronies are reopening the country in order to create an even bigger national emergency to give them the appearance of a reason to delay the election: public safety. 
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
    Jared Dear Boy has already “floated” the idea of delaying the election and was roundly and soundly criticized for it. It’s not an Executive Branch function and it certainly doesn’t reside with Jared Dear Boy. But that doesn’t mean you can’t plant the seed.
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  • HughFreakingDillonHughFreakingDillon Winnipeg Posts: 35,808
    Jared Dear Boy has already “floated” the idea of delaying the election and was roundly and soundly criticized for it. It’s not an Executive Branch function and it certainly doesn’t reside with Jared Dear Boy. But that doesn’t mean you can’t plant the seed.
    but who has the ultimate authority on that?
    Darwinspeed, all. 

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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Jared Dear Boy has already “floated” the idea of delaying the election and was roundly and soundly criticized for it. It’s not an Executive Branch function and it certainly doesn’t reside with Jared Dear Boy. But that doesn’t mean you can’t plant the seed.
    but who has the ultimate authority on that?
    https://publicintegrity.org/politics/federal-election-commission-fec-to-effectively-shut-down/
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  • KatKat There's a lot to be said for nowhere. Posts: 4,772
    How can they try to delay the election at the same time they are telling everyone to get back to work, get out there, get normal? Isn't that the definition of insanity?

    And I thought it's in the Constitution that the election must be held and if it isn't, the next in line becomes the President? That would be President Pelosi. 
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  • Halifax2TheMaxHalifax2TheMax Posts: 36,570
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    Jared Dear Boy has already “floated” the idea of delaying the election and was roundly and soundly criticized for it. It’s not an Executive Branch function and it certainly doesn’t reside with Jared Dear Boy. But that doesn’t mean you can’t plant the seed.
    but who has the ultimate authority on that?
    Individual states, if their state constitution allows for it. If the Feds did it, it’d have to be a law passed by Congress and signed by POTUS, and then withstand court challenges. The parties can penalize states by not meeting certain deadlines, mostly around when primaries have to be completed by. Presidential elections have been held continuously since 1845. The “rush” to reopen certainly weakens the argument for postponing or delaying but demanding to do so might suppress turnout, which is all the repubs have left in order to win.

    Maybe the repubs will roll out a health care plan better, more tremendous and cheaper than Obamacare and run on that? Or run on Obamagate?
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  • gimmesometruth27gimmesometruth27 St. Fuckin Louis Posts: 22,149
    dude they are gonna run on obamagate. does anybody here really think they have it in them to do the actual work of creating an alternative plan and then trying to sell that to the american people?

    their voters are lazy thinkers, so the leadership is going to be just as lazy.
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  • ikiTikiT USA Posts: 11,007
    Kat said:
    How can they try to delay the election at the same time they are telling everyone to get back to work, get out there, get normal? Isn't that the definition of insanity?

    And I thought it's in the Constitution that the election must be held and if it isn't, the next in line becomes the President? That would be President Pelosi. 
    doublespeak
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  • mickeyratmickeyrat up my ass, like Chadwick was up his Posts: 35,644
    edited May 2020
    ikiT said:
    Jared Dear Boy has already “floated” the idea of delaying the election and was roundly and soundly criticized for it. It’s not an Executive Branch function and it certainly doesn’t reside with Jared Dear Boy. But that doesn’t mean you can’t plant the seed.
    but who has the ultimate authority on that?
    https://publicintegrity.org/politics/federal-election-commission-fec-to-effectively-shut-down/

    all that means is dirty campaigning wont get investigated etc.
    States hold and are responsible for making elections happen within the laws of that state. So other than the constitution mandated day in Nov and other regs. Its going to happen.
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  • pjhawkspjhawks Posts: 12,189
    they can't stop the electoral college from voting but what they can and are trying to do is limit the access to mail-in voting. this is their new way of voter suppression. knowing some people may be reluctant to go to a public polling place during a pandemic the republicans are already doing whatever they can to limit the access to full mail-in voting. they have already tried to suppress it in California. It is also another sneaky reason by Trump talks about dismantling the USPS.  If the USPS goes out of business before the election how can we have mail-in voting?  
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